Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

You emailed Elop but Jyrki responded? This feedback from them is very open to interpretation...
All we can get from it is that PR1.3 is (maybe) coming very soon, beyond that is something similar to what the N900 experienced.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

did the n900 get treated like the n9? barely any updates, etc? just wondering

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Can you please define "barely" any updates?
I'd suggest to you that, like most handsets these days, the N900 (and the N9 so far) has received as many updates as is deemed appropriate for the device life cycle, and in real terms, more than many devices, including many android handsets.
Neither the N900 or the N9 are based on an OS that was created with a guaranteed development update cycle like android, and we have been fortunate, as end users to receive the type of support that we've already had, due in part to the efforts of the many enthusiasts within Nokia who have put so much hard work into Maemo and the N9.
The expectation of so many that Nokia has some moral obligation to provide 6 (or even 3!) monthly firmware updates seems to me, more a reflection of the age/lack of maturity of some users on this forum, than a real and pragmatic understanding that, (for now) nokia has pushed all Linux based OS development to the back shelf in favour of their WP smartphone strategy.
Given the nature of the device and the market segment that has the most interest in it, either as an evolution of previous Maemo NIT's or due to it's linux underpinnings, I would be astounded to think that ANYONE bought the N9, not fully cognizant of the fact that it was announced as a dead platform even before it was released....

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

I just bought a playbook for 200eur and it was released 2010 still its buggy os. Infact n9 is not that buggy. So what is my point. Well just saying every damn devices has bugs.

If nokia where smart they released a 7" tablet todays harmattan version and I am sure it is more stable. I could care less if it was only pr1.3 and no upgrades.

Hell it could be increduble geek device. But nokia wants to fail so it will. For sure never happen.

Btw. I know playbook is also doomed...

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

So you are suggestion that nokia release a geek device with few or no upgrades? and call that a smart move? nokia need the most basic user to get their devices. Not sell one device to a one man Qt troll army ;)

I think PR 1.3 is about 2 weeks away.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

N900 was a more experimental device ("Step 5 of 6"), N9 started out looking quite different (mass market/consumer focussed etc).
But ultimately I think it's going to be quite similar with regards to updates etc.
N9 may get one or two more "substantial" (not major) updates than what the N900 got.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

i meant barely any updates as in releases, not updates as in bug fixes. like pr1.0, pr1.1, pr1.2, thats three. im not talking about the "releases/bug fixes" within those updates. i know pr1.2 had a ton of updates within it.

my question had nothing to do with the N9 though. simply wondering about the n900 since ive seen some people compare the n9 with it when it comes to updates. i didnt feel like googling it since the phones been around for a long time and most threads about it are in 2008/2009 lol.

i bought my N9 because i like to not be like everyone else lol (iphone, android). and you never see people in the US with a Nokia smartphone, well until people start picking up on the lumia series, still never even seen a lumia phone in my life, or even held one. i was aware or the lack up apps and everything, but that isnt a huge deal for me. like i said above though, my post wasnt about the N9, nor was i complaining like most people. lol, i actually bought my phone around two months ago, i havent had it that long. i did a LOT of research before i bought it as well, since i paid $360 for it -_-

edit: i saw Noahs review from Phonedog a long time ago on the n900 and he kept going on about how the phone was NOT for consumers in any way, but he loved the phone. i think the n9 is/could have been for both consumers and devs.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

You mean it's not Nokia Only Lives Once?!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

What are you talking about?

There's only been around 5-6 Android releases over its popular life and hardly any device got more then 2!

There's been a few iOS updates but the major ones iOS4 - iOS5 always cut support completely to some older devices OR allow them to run with certain important features disabled..

We are probably gonna get 3 releases within a year! That's more then any other phone!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

*Lived

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Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

There is a point there!
Jelly bean just came out yet only less than 10% of the Android phoned run the ice cream sandwich. Yes they do get updates and bug fixes but only feature updates are the big releases.

PR 1.1 and 1.2 were bug and feature updates

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

lol, like i said about 2 times. my post had nothing to do with the n9... i was just wanting to know about the n900 haha. i was talking about the future of this phone and how it compares with the n900. i probably worded it wrong, but now you get my point. hopefully

i never said "the n9 barely ever gets updates, i hate this phone" :p

i just think there is kinda a pattern going on, the n900 could have got even bigger than it did if nokia supported it like they did with symbian and promoted it better. and same exact thing with the n9, if they didnt say the whole "dead from the start thing", and had it in the US, india, etc the phone would have been huuuuge. i just think its weird how the same thing happened with both phones, and they both have/had a LOT of potential.. i dont get it

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

@Stratax

Well then it seems there was a miscommunication :p

The N900 recieved 3 main firmwares PR1.1, PR1.2 and PR1.3.

As well as a small incremental security update PR1.3.1 which just fixed a security hole.

The N900 was then carried over and onwards by the Community SSU which provided 10+ updates within around 6-8 months and they were VERY incredible updates including open sourcing by rewriting a lot of the ui elements that were previously closed and contained bugs.

Hopefully we get the same kind of thing for our N9's. TBH I am more looking forward to what this community will do then Nokia when it comes to updates ;)

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Yup, i totally agree. I never owned an N900, but from what i've read up until now, it's the community that made that phone such a good piece of kit - i'm hoping the same happens to the N9. After using friends' Iphones and Android phones, i can honestly say that not only is the UI the best on the N9 out of any phone i've used, but just the design of the menus in general, the fonts, the look, the feel. Sure it may not have a quad core processor but that isn't important to me. What IS important is comfort/ease of use, and the N9 wins hands down IMO

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Second that.
no words to describe the frustration of not being able to activate my Android handset with a double screen tap.
Or worse still, trying to swipe apps off the screen!
:)

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

hmm interested, do you think nokia will sell/give harmattan over to some other company? that would be cool, or at least make it open source. fully

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Closed source driver blobs will prevent this from happening.
furthermore, nokia wouldn't open source an OS that might provide another party with a competitive advantage, and anyone who buys the bones of Nokia would keep it shelved and locked away for the same reason.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Two completely different stories/evolutionary_paths but the final result is coincidentally ending-up FAIRLY similar, that's all you need to know.
CBF'd outlining it all in detail*, if you're truly that interested in forming a complete picture, there's plenty of old/current threads for you to dig up.
And it's all waaaay beyond the scope of this thread anyway....

*it's been done a gazillion times before

Not happening, it's all been discussed in detail countless times, not in this thread.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

im aware it's not going to happen, it would be cool though if it did. kinda how rim wont sell bb6 even though its dead, etc. obviously i wasnt thinking last night haha.
well i still enjoy my n9, thats all that matters. there could be improvements, but what os cant use improvements

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

Anyone got the update yet?

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

yes all nokia employees and anyone who was working at nokia ( meego team ) but we poor users are waiting :p

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

Hahaha
This is sarcastic isn't it :D

When the update will come, it will be alot of useless new topics:p

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

What? I thought Elop said that the release would come before the final in Euro 2012. So ****ing dissepointed....time for Nokia to release something...

At least a changelog. Too much to ask for?

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

We still have couple of hourse till the end of finals hahaha :D

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

Yes, but the majority of the MeeGo team at Nokia are Italians, so, to be in sync with their players, they decided to delete all the PR1.3 work ...

A++

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

hey man is sunday even god rest on sunday tomorrow is the day

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

Mmmm... What?

I have a lead where to go.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2646/4...240_z.jpg?zz=1

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

POSSIBLE FAKE!!!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73234139/pr1.3.jpgPR1.3 just started rolling! EDIT: I wonder is this for real or fake?! I don't get anything...Anyone here getting update?

http://meegos.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=115750#p115750

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

I know. It's soo much easier to find it when you know where to go and find it.

Nokia should thank me for pointing out the direction.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

POSSIBLE FAKE!!!


PR1.3 seems to be out in the wild! Waiting eagerly to see the change log! :)https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73234139/pr1.3.jpg

EDIT: This MIGHT be a FAKE! So far I don't hear from any member here at Twitter to be able to update. So I suppose my(our) joy was premature! Sorry if I had mislead someone!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Image from the same message Board, could be fake.

But still im interested what it says in the changelog. Anyone can translate polish to english?

http://cs411425.userapi.com/v4114252...pZfdSDlhCA.jpg

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

Anyone received it... Yet?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Preparing for the upgrade:
- Make sure the battery is charged, or connect to the charger;
- Recommended to use a WLAN connection, if available. After updating the device restarts.
Before you start updating your device, you should back up your data.

40.2012.21-3.001.19 Version Information:
This Nokia N9 update includes many improvements in the *EOM*

OCR + Google Translate

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

This polish words are more like "if battery is fully charged, do backup of phone,..

I don't speek Polish, but some words are verry simmilarr to my native language.

EDIT: Ministeri, you have beaten me :p

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Hmm, so it's a fake I guess. Must be as its so damn teasing ;)
THX for translating!

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Can be real but an unofficial leak by troll egdar or putin. Who knows.

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

Yes, I also think it is a fake. But we were expecting PR1.3 everyday now, and the version was the one that was the mentioned release candidate by several users..so I got it for the real thing. Wishful thinking I guess...should have checked this carefully..
Mea culpa!

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

can somebody check navifirm?

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 

What's interesting is that the post by rlinfati matches the update version

Re: haven't received pr1.3 update... yet!!
 

nothing on navifimr 1.7++ ( lots of people are saying it's a fake :/ )