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thedead1440 2012-07-08 13:59

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joelsk (Post 1233784)
Anyone from Malaysia updated yet? N9 Black 64Gb no updates on NSU, Nokia Suite or OTA.
Feeling a little left out here...
:confused:

my phone is running a malaysian variant; 059J238...once i plugged it into nokia suite, it got updated on the day of release itself...try that..

however, a clean reflash is the best solution as when nokia suite does a backup and restore to update the firmware, it may restore application data without restoring the apps so you will be clogging up the application data memory...

joelsk 2012-07-08 14:47

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1233897)
my phone is running a malaysian variant; 059J238...once i plugged it into nokia suite, it got updated on the day of release itself...try that..

however, a clean reflash is the best solution as when nokia suite does a backup and restore to update the firmware, it may restore application data without restoring the apps so you will be clogging up the application data memory...

Tried NSU, OTA and Nokia Suite. Phone is up to date.
Downloading file to flash. Hopefully I don't botch the flash.
Nokia Care service here really really sucks

ggabriel 2012-07-08 14:57

Re: The Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Setok (Post 1233320)
I don't think you can really make that comparison. Of the PRs, 1.1 was really what 1.0 should have been. 1.2 did bring new features —*fair enough. But 1.3 is a patch release with really no new features.

During my iPhone period we've received one major upgrade (iOS 4->5) and several patch releases. Another major upgrade coming soon. It's a different model, so I think it's difficult to claim N9 has been better supported. Particularly as no further major upgrades will be forthcoming and PR1.3 still has a bunch of pretty clear issues.

I agree that the comparison is not 100% fair, but at the end of the day I compare things that matter to me - let me emphasise that I do agree with the fact that PR1.3 should have brought more features (e.g., copy+paste in email, which is important at least for me, among other smaller things).

iOS -in my opinion, and given the amount of resources that Apple has these days- should have provided more. In my case, iOS 4->5 made the phone worse -much worse-, e.g., battery life to less than 50% of what it used to be (and it used to be bad to begin with) among other things. iOS 5 didn't include Siri for 4, only for 4s (so, they want you to get another phone). iOS6 will bring... basic renewed maps and some minor fixes here and there for 4 (as far as I can remember), the rest of the features for 4s. Also, I expect a very buggy maps with iOS, but I'm glad it's no longer gmaps.
All in all, the *only* "feature" I use the most of iOS5 is the "swipe to delete" emails. That's about it.

If you want me to make another comparison, then allow me: remember how crappy was the very first iteration of iOS? I think Nokia has done a lot better, considering that Harmattan is the first iteration of the Swipe UI.
I do think that Nokia supported N9 users way better than Apple does. And don't get me started with Android ;-)

Anyway, apologies about the OT - perhaps it's fueled by the fact that Nokia is ditching all further development on this platform, and I feel a little bit like when IBM's OS/2 was ditched (for those who used it and considered far better than Windows, you will understand ;-) ).

For reference, I use an iPhone 4 for business use, my N9 for personal use and lastly a Hawei (or however is spelt) modem for business use. More often than not, the N9 has the best reception; and I've just given up using the iPhone for things like checking train times and the like as the browser is just unacceptable, I very rarely use gmaps, even when abroad, I just find it better to use Nokia Maps. YMMV, of course, especially if you use Twitter/Facebook, perhaps the experience is better in the iPhone.

lyluushalyluri 2012-07-08 15:59

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lifeintheblitz (Post 1233842)
That's odd. May I suggest you try using Nokia Suite instead. I'm guessing our carriers are to blame for the slow roll out. I got my software update 1 day after PR 1.3 came out, but I didn't get an OTA notification, so I used Nokia Suite to update instead. Worked like a charm. :)

Maybe something jammed when i tried updating thru NSU,guess ill just try again if still no OTA notification later.Nokia care is good in this country,but when i called,they just told me to just try to check the update on the phone,maybe i just cant wait lol.:D

celestialguy 2012-07-08 16:24

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
I also have the Malaysian variant black 16GB, but when I checked navifirm there is not PR1.3 update for the black 16GB model. The PR1.3 is out for the magenta,cyan,white and black 64GB. Anyone know why the black 16GB is left out?

thedead1440 2012-07-08 16:41

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
not all regions have received the pr1.3 update yet...just use the 64GB variant to flash...there is no issue...or use another country's 16GB variant...

Jeffrey04 2012-07-08 17:11

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by celestialguy (Post 1233956)
I also have the Malaysian variant black 16GB, but when I checked navifirm there is not PR1.3 update for the black 16GB model. The PR1.3 is out for the magenta,cyan,white and black 64GB. Anyone know why the black 16GB is left out?

if you really can't wait, just download the firmware image for 64GB, it should be the same. Back in PR1.1, I used NSU to flash my phone (Black 64GB) and my sister's (Black 16GB), and they both are using the same firmware
but seriously, I would wait for OTA as PR1.2 is actually OK'ish

celestialguy 2012-07-08 17:18

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
I'm not in a rush to get PR1.3, I'm just curious as to why the other colors have 1.3 but not black. Seems kinda odd.

Ashbeck 2012-07-08 18:05

Re: N9 PR1.3 by end of May'12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1228953)
they dont have clue what they talk about. Meego and QT is plain dead inside nokia. Stop beleive anything nokia saying now they are liers!!!

Lol, It might be a trick to finally Kill the N9, Elop is like, this is going to far, Lets release a Trojan horse Update.

after a few months, the phone Just starts having Reboot cycles etc...
Like what happened to me with Sony ericsson

I tend to be weary of updates now, after updating my messenger only to find that, they had put an Advert window in there, which ii could not close, Goodness,goodness.

Personally i don't think this update will bring anything GOOD, as N9 was D.O.A already. so now it is beyond Dead in the eyes of nokia. By Oh well.... SO it must be,

crnkoj 2012-07-08 22:35

Re: The Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcAnton (Post 1231088)
have the same problem since a view days, can't read read reviews of apps and store behaves very slow. :mad:

I hope they fix it soon

i just saw the same problem today... Did anyone devise a fix for it ? i updated with OTA, do people who have flashed see this error?

cevenn 2012-07-08 22:44

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
No way to read comments on store.
Product code changed with NSS Pro, and update with NSU.

aprimo 2012-07-08 22:54

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
OK, I apologize in advance if I am asking a question that has been answered. I did look for the solution, but couldn't find it.

I updated my N9 to PR 1.3 a few days ago using Nokia Suite and now I can't get my N9 to connect to my home wireless router. I can connect to T-Mobile 3G no problem, and I can even use the wifi hotspot app to tether the N9 to my laptop. But the N9 will not connect to my router. I have entered the WPA key very carefully and am sure it is not a type-o causing the problem. I have also deleted the connection from the N9 and re-entered it.

I am not fluent in Linux or MeeGo, so please tell me in English what I have done wrong and/or how to fix it. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience.

ZiiimZooon 2012-07-09 00:17

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Is it just mine or is the bluetooth worse now than before? It's lagging alot using my Nokia play 360.. Any know about or heard of it??

gerbick 2012-07-09 01:23

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
I can confirm that I'm also having a prob with the store and comments... but still can say that PR1.3 is a heckuva lot better than PR1.2 ever was for me. Seems snappier, battery is lasting all day.

Bluetooth at the same time as wifi is a serious prob - sound stutters like no other still.

Talking about bluetooth, I thought the N9 had Bluetooth 4.0?

geneven 2012-07-09 01:59

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
I'm pretty sure I had a problem with store and comments with 1.2 and still have it with 1.3. Rule of thumb: the Store sucks.

soryuuha 2012-07-09 03:01

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1234152)
I'm pretty sure I had a problem with store and comments with 1.2 and still have it with 1.3. Rule of thumb: the Store sucks.

can't agree more on this :D

zlatko 2012-07-09 05:36

Re: The Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Comments in store are broken even before PR1.3 Nokia had acknowledged the issue and say they are working to fix it. No ETR though.

Muzimak 2012-07-09 07:39

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
1 Attachment(s)
4th day with mine, nothing beats a combination of PR.1.3 + Drop Cache + Faster N9. Wish I could let others test my phone right now, Idle is standing on 8mA right, hasn't gone past 30 yet, wireless is on, Facebook set to available, Wazapp on, 3 emails set at 30min refresh, feeds @ 1 hour. Simply loving it. Not sure if it's related to PR.1.3 but as others mentioned, I also can't view comments in Store. Messaging Malfunction is still there too. But both aren't really a train smash. Now all I need is the real Tapatalk, Skype Video Calls then I'll be happy.

See below:

Attachment 27205

paoletto 2012-07-09 08:57

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
I have the exact same problem!

PR1.2 idle + 2g = 4mA consumption
PR1.3 idle + 2g = 7mA consumption


i dont know what changed, but i would really like the phone to consume like before in idle
Can someone with vanilla PR1.3 confirm this?

gerbick 2012-07-09 09:11

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
The titles just keep more awesome.

Muzimak 2012-07-09 09:28

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paoletto (Post 1234262)
I have the exact same problem!

PR1.2 idle + 2g = 4mA consumption
PR1.3 idle + 2g = 7mA consumption


i dont know what changed, but i would really like the phone to consume like before in idle
Can someone with vanilla PR1.3 confirm this?

I personally consider anything less than 40mA very good, having less than 10mA is just unbelievable for me, since I use 3G on the move and Wifi in-house.

gcalcott 2012-07-09 09:29

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
PR 1.3, Drop Cache, FasterN9.

Yes, BT seems to have degraded :(

All in all, it's still an unfinished product and I can't elevate it to #1 du to lack of a "full" WhatsApp client (no media support).

Actually, quite a mess of a product and overall you can see why iOS is a better alternative. Still like it though ;)

Dave999 2012-07-09 09:36

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Guys and girl. Elvis has just left the building. I just received the update.

Sensational!

accountvip 2012-07-09 09:47

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Why PR1.2xxxxx_454 not received update?

Travz03 2012-07-09 09:47

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Hi everyone! I just reformatted my phone. When I tried to install drop cache it says that the download has failed and in the menu it's showing a red icon with (!) which belongs to the said application. Any help for this?

soryuuha 2012-07-09 09:51

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
the tittle getting longer..lmao

Muzimak 2012-07-09 10:20

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gcalcott (Post 1234285)
PR 1.3, Drop Cache, FasterN9.

Yes, BT seems to have degraded :(

All in all, it's still an unfinished product and I can't elevate it to #1 du to lack of a "full" WhatsApp client (no media support).

Actually, quite a mess of a product and overall you can see why iOS is a better alternative. Still like it though ;)

I say it could've been worse without Wazapp and all the guys in this Community. Am not trading this phone for just a couple of Missing Vital Apps, the ones I need the most I have. I still think eventually the missing ones will become available.

jleholeho 2012-07-09 10:39

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1234320)
I say it could've been worse without Wazapp and all the guys in this Community. Am not trading this phone for just a couple of Missing Vital Apps, the ones I need the most I have. I still think eventually the missing ones will become available.

True...
this community has been providing us with some serious software over the last year, thumbs up...
if I only had Shazam/Soundhound or Eyrie working similarly and some wifi-based remote control app for my home theater devices I´d be levitating:D

Muzimak 2012-07-09 11:17

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Somebody earlier that Facebook Notifications show instantly even when U've set up 10min intervals. I've just noticed something similar, but with Email instead, could be a coincidence but I just received an email before the set 30min interval expired.... Interesting

BlinkThinks 2012-07-09 11:23

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
OP, why don't you change the thread title to "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread", already? :)

jalyst 2012-07-09 11:26

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
I didn't get my weekly email about this thread because of it's (now) crazy title.
Can we please tone the thread title down a bit please Dave/mods?

gawga_boy 2012-07-09 12:31

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Just ran the app manager / updates check on my Philippines 64GB Black. PR 1.3 is now there for OTA. :D

erwinescara 2012-07-09 16:54

Re: The Hyper Fantastic Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Yep, Philippines is finally getting PR1.3. Southeast Asia is probably the last region to get it. Updating now... :-)

jalyst 2012-07-09 17:39

Re: The Super Awesome Über Mega Epic N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter012 (Post 1233068)
Can I backup my applications with Nokia Suite, then load new PR1.3 with Nokia Suite, then restore (from backup) the applications?
I see a lot of posts about waiting for OTA to avoid losing apps and stuff, but I can't see why a backup/restore of data/applications would not solve that issue

NS doesn't have that ability, it's still beta for the N9, it may come it may never, follow the N9 NS thread at betalabs.
Most personal data is retained if you flash or update via NS/NSU, except apps & some settings.
Nokia Store client remembers the apps you've dloaded/paid for, so you can re-download them via it.
Sometimes free apps may have since become paid, in which case, bad luck I guess.
Follow this guide to flash if you don't want to wait for the OTA, especially if you've side-loaded or applied tweaks/hacks.
Updating via latest beta NS or NSU is another approach, I can't recall OTTOMH but I think it's more-or-less the same as a standard flash.
But IMO it's best just to do a flash, you don't know what weird stuff NS/NSU may be trying to do, it's not fully optimised for the N9 yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setok (Post 1233320)
I don't think you can really make that comparison. Of the PRs, 1.1 was really what 1.0 should have been. 1.2 did bring new features —*fair enough. But 1.3 is a patch release with really no new features.
During my iPhone period we've received one major upgrade (iOS 4->5) and several patch releases. Another major upgrade coming soon. It's a different model, so I think it's difficult to claim N9 has been better supported. Particularly as no further major upgrades will be forthcoming and PR1.3 still has a bunch of pretty clear issues.

1.1 wasn't what 1.0 should've been, it added features in it's own right, more so than 1.3, but yes it was primarily a bug-fix release.
And I don't think it's fair to be making comparisons PERIOD....
These updates have been delivered by a team that's been downsized almost 100% now (90%+ last I checked) over the course of 17mth, most of that in the last 9mth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetlee (Post 1233517)
I still hope we may see some further improvements/optimisation to the battery perfomance at some point, as Lumia 800 users apparently did, it's about the only thing I'm not so happy with.

And PLENTY of L800 users are still very unhappy with performance.
No shortage of them out there complaining the improvements did squat for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifeintheblitz (Post 1233706)
My power consumption seems to have stabilized. After a couple of days of normal usage, my idle power consumption with PR 1.3 is back at 8-10mA. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1234229)
4th day with mine, nothing beats a combination of PR.1.3 + Drop Cache + Faster N9. Wish I could let others test my phone right now, Idle is standing on 8mA right, hasn't gone past 30 yet, wireless is on, Facebook set to available, Wazapp on, 3 emails set at 30min refresh, feeds @ 1 hour. Simply loving it.Attachment 27205

Good to see there's users whose battery perf. hasn't gotten worse in any meaningful way, same here.
You rarely do hear from people if things are working as they should, tis refreshing :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cevenn (Post 1234095)
No way to read comments on store..

Has nothing to do with PR1.3, that's been a problem since before the update came out.
It's an issue with the store itself, which they haven't fixed for weeks now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1234147)
Talking about bluetooth, I thought the N9 had Bluetooth 4.0?

Never came :( See my Sig for the bug report, I was going to update it with much more detail, still haven't gotten round to it. :o
They were very close to implementing, but was one of those features they had to leave half-finished, because not enough time/resources.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcalcott (Post 1234285)
<SNIP>Actually, quite a mess of a product and overall you can see why iOS is a better alternative. Still like it though ;)

I wonder how much a of a mess iOS would've been in it's 1st year if it tried to add half as much functionality as Maemo 6x.
Whilst resources for the dev team were being downscaled massively at the same time. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1234290)
Guys and girl. Elvis has just left the building. I just received the update.
Sensational!

Great, now can you please stop ****ing with the thread title, k tnx ;)
Srsly, it's affecting email delivery of weekly subscriptions to the thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by accountvip (Post 1234294)
Why PR1.2xxxxx_454 not received update?

Read this post, then you will learn several interesting facts:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...16#post1172316

Quote:

Originally Posted by jleholeho (Post 1234337)
Soundhound or Eyrie working similarly

Apparently the web-based version of soundhound (midomi?) works well in the browser.
Wouldn't know as I personally dont care about soundhound or similar apps.
Plus soundhound themselves keep saying they do want to release an app but can't say when.
But they've been saying that for waaay too long to be believable any more...

Quote:

and some wifi-based remote control app for my home theater devices
Coulda sworn there's at least one app like that....

kai_en 2012-07-09 23:51

Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Discover a bug already, no longer able to able to play certain mp4 file downloaded via flash players properly on video player. Play for about 10 seconds and it will pop up the message, you can't play this type of files on this devices, no idea why it does that as it played just fine previously on PR 1.2. I am getting annoyed by this real quick.

jalyst 2012-07-10 09:53

Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kai_en (Post 1234922)
Discover a bug already, no longer able to able to play certain mp4 file downloaded via flash players properly on video player. Play for about 10 seconds and it will pop up the message, you can't play this type of files on this devices, no idea why it does that as it played just fine previously on PR 1.2. I am getting annoyed by this real quick.

That has been reported as far back as 1.2, at least.
I've had it happen on 1.2, usually only intermittent...
Fixes/features & bugs/regressions are meant to go here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85234&page=29

kai_en 2012-07-10 15:22

Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1235132)
That has been reported as far back as 1.2, at least.
I've had it happen on 1.2, usually only intermittent...
Fixes/features & bugs/regressions are meant to go here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85234&page=29

that's strange, the same clip seemed to work on my device back when I was using PR 1.2

hw9xx 2012-07-10 17:00

Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
"Country Variants" for nordic countries are now appearing on Navifirm.

don.edri 2012-07-11 09:32

Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
So finally I've been tired of waiting and flashed pr 1.3 to my phone. After spending hours to get back all my apps and playing with it for a day, my impressions are:

- it seems a little bit faster, although not as fast as pr 1.2 + fastern9 (example: try loading a webpage, swipe it away, go to your main screen / notification screen and try to move around - for my there was an unpleasant shuttering), installing faster n9 on pr 1.3 makes it better

- 3G/2G connectivity improved + webpages load faster

- Ovi store was much faster when downloading and installing apps

- contrary to what I've read before, when I move my icons/folders around I still to have confirm it with "done" rather then just tap wherever to finish

- the tendency of my screen to get "reddish" in bright daylight vanished (previously the "white balance" was normal in low/medium light conditions and when I got outside on a sunny day it seemed to try to increase it's brightness and it would turn really reddish - to clarify, I always set my screen to maximum brightness, but this only happened in bright sun) nope, my bad - this annoying thing is still there...

- haptic feedback of keyboards (both stock and swype) is improved, still stock seems more responsive than swype when typing

- it's harder to unintentionally "click" on your notification screen and be moved to facebook or sth - big +

Otherwise, everything seems business as usual.

zlatko 2012-07-11 09:54

Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!
 
So far I have been trough 3 cycles of charging/discharging my N9 since PR1.3 - I notice improvement in power consumption. All 3 times I got to 48 hours, without even PSM mode been engaged at 10% battery level. So phone probably will go over 55 hours autonomity.
This is with always on Wi-Fi/2G, 3xIMAP always up-to-date, 10-20 emails/daily(read+write), 20 SMS's (received+send), 1.0-1.5 hours of browsing/twitter daily.


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