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Re: The Tiny N9 PR1.3 Discussion Thread!

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1238443)

oh so it seems you need to have a google account and have Gtalk enabled in accounts, how do you add friends to google talk?

Add them in contacts :)

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My pr1.3 OTA update is cool, smooth, fast, and no problem at all, impressive battery-life, sadly maybe this is the last update from nokia, :'(

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Originally Posted by flopjoke (Post 1238327)

Yeah, it is my experience, but I've noticed many people in other places with at least one problem in common. I'm unfortunate to have all of them in one device. Maybe I had some bad installation before or maybe something else happened, but I'm not saying others are wrong.. I'm just saying that a number of people do have issues with PR 1.3 but their phones were perfect before. I still don't know what bug fixes were done, but I do like MeeGo and N9. And yes, battery life has definitely improved. I'll go and hard reset the device.. Start fresh, and hopefully these problems should go away.

on a side note: drive app didn't work at all today. Was stuck at loading. And the google video isn't working even after I reinstalled from the store. I can receive calls, but not make them. Keeps getting dc. Weird. I'm thinking more and more that some order of installations and tweaks messed it up.

but yeah, maybe I am the minority.. And I do not like that :(

I'm not sure what U got but what always worked for me is FasterN9 + Drop Cache, though I had lag problems after 1.3 until adviced by Godofwar that FasterN9 has to be uninstalled before update, which I didn't do. I then uninstalled FasterN9 after the update, phone became worse and I paniced a bit, the put the F9 back, reboot the phone and Heyyyy never seen this phone this smooth. Ave Consumption always between 7mA and 25mA, I consider this good. I personally would never wanna go back to prev updates. I'm loving my phone. Can't wait for Drop Cache to Auto Refresh independently, and to get the next update of Wazapp. If we lucky enough maybe get Tapatalk and Skype Video calls as most of my friends don't use Gtalk. I wish suggestion words on Keyboard could be slightly bigger too as most of the time I seem to miss them.

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Got the "Mail accounts disappearing" bug today. I restarted without rebuilding anything, and hey presto my mail accounts were back.

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Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1235904)

So far I have been trough 3 cycles of charging/discharging my N9 since PR1.3 - I notice improvement in power consumption. All 3 times I got to 48 hours, without even PSM mode been engaged at 10% battery level. So phone probably will go over 55 hours autonomity.
This is with always on Wi-Fi/2G, 3xIMAP always up-to-date, 10-20 emails/daily(read+write), 20 SMS's (received+send), 1.0-1.5 hours of browsing/twitter daily.

This is really impressive! I wish I could achieve half of what you are getting. My black 64GB N9 can last around 11h doing less than what you are doing and having PSM kicking in at 10%... Really disappointing. Quite don't know what to do.

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Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1238485)

Gtalk video works fine, but when I press call, and the other person receives it, it gets disconnected. But when the other person calls, regardless of which device they're on, it works fine. I dunno what's wrong here, since I did reinstall most apps after the update.

and yeah man.. Skype video + wazzap update + drop cache auto .. This will make it fawesome :D maybe we can start a new thread and see if we can get an amazing developer to make the suggestion words hit area to be larger.. ?

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Originally Posted by don.edri (Post 1235892)

So finally I've been tired of waiting and flashed pr 1.3 to my phone. After spending hours to get back all my apps and playing with it for a day, my impressions are:

- it seems a little bit faster, although not as fast as pr 1.2 + fastern9 (example: try loading a webpage, swipe it away, go to your main screen / notification screen and try to move around - for my there was an unpleasant shuttering), installing faster n9 on pr 1.3 makes it better

- 3G/2G connectivity improved + webpages load faster

- Ovi store was much faster when downloading and installing apps

- contrary to what I've read before, when I move my icons/folders around I still to have confirm it with "done" rather then just tap wherever to finish

- the tendency of my screen to get "reddish" in bright daylight vanished (previously the "white balance" was normal in low/medium light conditions and when I got outside on a sunny day it seemed to try to increase it's brightness and it would turn really reddish - to clarify, I always set my screen to maximum brightness, but this only happened in bright sun) nope, my bad - this annoying thing is still there...

- haptic feedback of keyboards (both stock and swype) is improved, still stock seems more responsive than swype when typing

- it's harder to unintentionally "click" on your notification screen and be moved to facebook or sth - big +

Otherwise, everything seems business as usual.

Thanks for sharing that, would be appreciated if you could put it into the change-log thread.
Mainly just the bits that your think aren't already highlighted in the OP.

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Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1235904)

That's pretty good, maybe there should be a new thread/doc for tips on optimising ones power consumption?
It's been done before, but there's always new users that can benefit from a primer.

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Originally Posted by kai_en (Post 1236941)

Quoting my own original issue, I seemed stumbled upon a quick fix by installing Open Video Player. Been able to play the clip smoothly again

Thanks, good one to share here, that what that thread's for.

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Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1236966)

I have to admit that I had my doubts about PR 1.3, but it freakin' rocks! It's blazing fast with FasterN9, N9QuickTweaks (Tweak A), and Opera v.12 as the default browser. I was overclocked to 1.375GHz on PR 1.2, but the current set up is faster and smoother.
I highly recommend that you reflash using the Flasher and Navifirm!

Glad to hear! And def. agreed about a clean clash to PR1.3...
Especially if you've previously been side-loading or playing with hacks/twks/mods.
Or even if you just have LOTS of apps being installed or uninstalled constantly.
And then make sure you don't add anything that isn't yet deemed suitable for PR1.3.

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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1237000)

Almost 1,5years now, and still no document-editor ?
#facepalm

1.5yrs?
And you're still surprised this isn't a feature release, bit slow aren't we?

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Originally Posted by ZiiimZooon (Post 1237379)

Will the N9 possibly gets better after Pr1.3 if you Factory Reset it? or reinstall pr1.3 on a clean N9? or isnt it true? :)

Yes it can, depends on your set-up, the apps/hacks/mods you have, & whether or not they clash or are sub-optimal for a patch to PR1.3 (OTA update).

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Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1237380)

Battery life in these new phones is such a joke, we might as well call them Landlines!!

Tis the modern smartphone dilemma everywhere, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Muzimak (Post 1237851)

Guys I heard most of you say WiFi connectivity has grown faster, not that it bothers me but today I happened to spend a couple of minutes with my son's Galaxy Ace, I clicked on WiFi On and it activated almost instantly, only then I noticed N9 is slower in this department. Has it really improved?

WiFi perf/range/stability is notoriously diff. to gauge, depends so much on your local set-up & how well the built-in client interfaces with your AP/router.
The N9's built-in client may go "gang busters" with one router/AP + home/work env, whereas it may be abysmal for another, same for any other client.
But yes, on average it does seem to be quite mediocre compared to some S^3 predecessors or other makes/models, def. has improved with 1.3 for me personally though.
Only a certain amt of radiation's allowed to emanate from the case, it wasn't going to pass regulatory requirements unless they dropped cellular, wifi, or both a few notches.
Apparently they decided not to compromise on cellular performance at the expense of making WiFi suboptimal...

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Originally Posted by flopjoke (Post 1238327)

I'll go and hard reset the device.. Start fresh, and hopefully these problems should go away.

Clean flash is more ideal than a hard reset if you can do it.

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So far Pr1.3 is full of bugs and problems. Wasn't the bugs supposed to be fixed in Pr1.3?

The obvious (dumb ***) question is: Will there be a Pr1.4 ? or have they all left, every single person at Nokia?

My Lumia 800 receives updates every other week, some small, some big. The same way we are used to from Symbian phones. Why can't this be done on Harmattan?

I still got my N9 as a second everyday phone, but this Pr1.3 is so disappointing I may as well retire it altogether.

Another thing. Is there any way to downgrade the FW? The flasher won't allow it, but is there some other way?

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See this & the change-log thread, lots of stuff has been fixed, & that's only what people have noticed or bothered to report.
Of course many issues remain, & even some new things have crept in, hard to have rock-solid stability/QC as your team's shrinking around you.
Hard to know if there'll be PR1.4, doubtful, there are still people in the team, but it's even smaller now.
My Lumia hasn't received updates "every other week'.....
There's been more but not heaps more, & all have been small compared to the N9's, & it's usually impossible to know everything they do.
S^3 phones don't get updates as regularly as the Lumias, not even close...

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Another thing. Is there any way to downgrade the FW? The flasher won't allow it, but is there some other way?

If you're referring to downgrade in the sense of downgrading back to PR1.2, IIRC there's not, & it makes little sense that you'd want to.

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after updated to pr1.3,i can't login twitter and FB apps can't open.What actually happened to my lovely n9

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Thanks Jalyst!

I tried to factory reset it, and now it got even better than before, lovely! ;)

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1239632)

If you're referring to downgrade in the sense of downgrading back to PR1.2, IIRC there's not, & it makes little sense that you'd want to.

Makes no sense to you perhaps, but there are lots of reasons for "downgrading". Debranding is one of them, changing region is another.

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239660)

Makes no sense to you perhaps, but there are lots of reasons for "downgrading". Debranding is one of them, changing region is another.

Well you can do either of those quite nicely without having to downgrade to PR1.2.

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1239673)

Well you can do either of those quite nicely without having to downgrade to PR1.2.

Good, care to elaborate?

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239678)

Good, care to elaborate?

happy reading
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693

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I just flashed my N9 to PR1.3 001, incepted and installed unrestricted menu, MT-Toggles and the flashlight toggle.
Damn, is it nice.

I noticed that it takes a while for the camera app to enter standby after swiping it up, but otherwise everything is so nice, smooth and snappy.

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Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1239689)

Glad to have you on board Hurrian :)

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1239686)

happy reading
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693

Nothing there I didn't knew before.

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239705)

Nothing there I didn't knew before.

WTF are you on about, you want to change region or debrand there's your ticket (& hell you asked!), no downgrading to PR1.2 needed.

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1239726)

WTF are you on about, you want to change region or debrand there's your ticket (& hell you asked!), no downgrading to PR1.2 needed.

Stop acting like a smartass - please. You know as good as anyone that going from a "higher" release (some country code for instance) to a "lower" (the generic release) is the same as downgrading, and thus impossible, even though it is the same Pr. That's the whole point here.

You said it can be done without downgrade to Pr1.2. Well? How exactly?

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239786)

Since you know that it is in your own words "impossible" to downgrade from a higher variant to a lower variant why do you ask to downgrade from even a more ridiculous situation (pr1.3 to pr1.2)?

Your recent posts are more for picking fights then making sense...

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239786)

The only one acting like a smart-arse or being rude here so far has been you...
I did not realise that was your point, & if you look at my responses that's pretty obvious.
And looking at your posts it's easy to see how I could not realise this....

If you hadn't already upgraded to PR1.3, then you could've flashed to a lower variant code from PR1.2.
IIRC you can change product code & THEN try flashing to a lower variant code, but it's somewhat risky.
But that may be a risk you're prepared to investigate & take, in order to flash to a lower variant code.
I'm rusty on how or if it really works, I know some got themselves into a mess trying it, but IIRC at least one or two pulled-it-off.

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1239797)

If you hadn't already upgraded to PR1.3, you could've flashed to a lower variant code from PR1.2.

Yes exactly, if I hadn't already upgraded to Pr1.3 ..... What can I say, sometimes you act before thinking.

But please, with sugar on top? Why do you think I asked in the first place?

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239804)

Yes exactly, if I hadn't already upgraded to Pr1.3 ..... What can I say, sometimes you act before thinking.

But please, with sugar on top? Why do you think I asked in the first place?

See updated (prior) post....

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1239804)

Yes exactly, if I hadn't already upgraded to Pr1.3 ..... What can I say, sometimes you act before thinking.

But please, with sugar on top? Why do you think I asked in the first place?

If you've already upgraded to PR1.3, then you have to downgrade to debrand. :( Changing the product code won't help, so don't bother with that. This is one of the reasons why I strongly advise against doing the OTA upgrade (as opposed to flashing), especially on a branded phone.

There is a way to downgrade, but it's a bit tricky and only works from normal mode (not open mode). Let me know if you want to try it.

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Originally Posted by itsnotabigtruck (Post 1239903)

There is a way to downgrade, but it's a bit tricky and only works from normal mode (not open mode). Let me know if you want to try it.

Coulda sworn lowering variant code* involved changing the product code using (non-dodgy) NSS? (only part of the whole process ofc)
If you could point to where it's fully explained/outlined it'd be appreciated, with big red disclaimers of course! :)

*w/o having to downgrade to a earlier major release

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Originally Posted by itsnotabigtruck (Post 1239903)

Yes please :)

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It seems in PR1.3 I'm unable to open links in text messages, my default browser is set to nightly from Romaxa's Fennec builds.

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Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 1239975)

It seems in PR1.3 I'm unable to open links in text messages, my default browser is set to nightly from Romaxa's Fennec builds.

There's a thread for that:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85234&page=31
Or here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85519
Or here (the official place, that devs are actually still screening):
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...p?220-Nokia-N9

I don't even know any more, sigh...
If you want to post only at TMO, I'd say the 2nd one is best.
For the 1st link the OP mainly wants to focus on fixes IIRC.

Cheers.

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So it came to pass, the epic discussion thread faded away...

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1241776)

So it came to pass, the epic discussion thread faded away...

Its because the old epic thread name is gone ;) I can change it again if you want.

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LOL no! :D Why didn't I keep my mouth shut...
If you rename it to Epic PR1.4 you'll be giving all the newbies false hope.
Plus it'll mess with email delivery for those subscribed on a weekly basis again.

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my quickvoice input doesn't working anymore on pr1.3 , lol

now i know why, :/ http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...-tools-upgrade

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Can anyone explain what "open mode" means?
Is it only achievable installing "Inception"?

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Well, I experienced the infamous sms bug for the first time, ie sms coming from new number appearing as if someone in my address book sent it. Nice! I hope this doesn't affect outbound sms too. Unacceptable..

edit. Actually it didn't happen. Apparently an sms was intentionally forwarded to me

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Ok but, i had that bug and never got inception installed.
But it only happens after a lot hack unhack, install uninstall loops.

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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1241798)

my quickvoice input doesn't working anymore on pr1.3 , lol

now i know why, :/ http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...-tools-upgrade

One for the PR1.3 bugs thread?

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Originally Posted by tiiagoFernandez (Post 1241801)

Can anyone explain what "open mode" means?
Is it only achievable installing "Inception"?

They're completely different things, open-mode isn't achieved by using inception, INABT puts it pretty well:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...18#post1231218
But you're really best-off reading the open-mode thread to get the full picture:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81579

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Originally Posted by tiiagoFernandez (Post 1241825)

Ok but, i had that bug and never got inception installed.
But it only happens after a lot hack unhack, install uninstall loops.

IIRC it's a bug that has nothing to do with any of that, been a long standing one.
If shinogami suspects otherwise, should share it in the PR1.3 bugs thread for peer review.

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nope, its another limiter from pr1.3 nokia wipe libmeegoimquick0 , :/

and quickvoice is cool addition , nokia is stupid , :|

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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1241853)

nope, its another limiter from pr1.3 nokia wipe libmeegoimquick0 , :/

and quickvoice is cool addition , nokia is stupid , :|

right, so it sounds perfect for the PR1.3 bug/issues thread.