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don.edri 2012-07-06 05:00

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1232644)
Wow. Based on your comments I would think Nokia pays you to disinform. Now you are going to tell me that it is better than iPhone 4 display?

Based on your comments I would think that you're a under-the-bridge living troll. As for the comparison to iphone - in terms of black reproduction, definitely yes :) And I shall leave it at that.

dumpystig 2012-07-06 06:27

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Here we go.

WTF has the iPhone got to do with this thread? :rolleyes:

lumiaman - look at the thread title

mariusmssj 2012-07-06 06:29

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1232751)
Here we go.

WTF has the iPhone got to do with this thread? :rolleyes:

lumiaman - look at the thread title

I think lumiaman does not understand opinions. to him everything has to be a fact.

Kinds beats the whole purpose if we can't even express ourselves in these forums.

thedead1440 2012-07-06 06:34

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
oh you can express yourself...just ignore the two of them...read:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=15
and you'll understand them better ;)

qwazix 2012-07-06 06:38

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
There are other parameters too. N900 has a really dark screen but this is not a problem because it is transflective and N9 has one of the brightest AMOLED'S out there.

Also you may not be able to differentiate 56K colors but the difference is clearly visble in gradients. In general colors look better on the N950 (LCD) than on the N9 (the ones I have, there have been reports of variations)

dumpystig 2012-07-06 06:50

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1232758)
oh you can express yourself...just ignore the two of them...read:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=15
and you'll understand them better ;)

Yeah, I was watching that thread yesterday. Excellent post by ajalkane... v funny :D

Lumiaman 2012-07-06 11:14

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
By the substance of this thread, I am surprised most of you can read or write, as you are clearly blind. N9 screen sucks compared to N900. Only a blind person would say otherwise. iPhone has the best screen, hands down. They are selling their products just cause the screen resolution is beautiful. N900 was the only one to come close to iPhone

mariusmssj 2012-07-06 13:30

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1232853)
By the substance of this thread, I am surprised most of you can read or write, as you are clearly blind. N9 screen sucks compared to N900. Only a blind person would say otherwise. iPhone has the best screen, hands down. They are selling their products just cause the screen resolution is beautiful. N900 was the only one to come close to iPhone

I will try to make this clear,

Do you comprehend what the definition of an opinion is?

And to go even further you know that each person has different Cone cells, thus no one sees the same colours or in same clarity. Just because you see something one way doesn't mean that other person sees it exactly the same!

I am not trying to argue that N9 has a better screen than N900 or Iphone. but colour wise i would pick N9 over them both

optimaxxx 2012-07-06 13:32

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
God damn, so heart broken!

Just watched some 720p supernatural, didn't work. Shockingly, n900 had a higher frame rate.
Then I stepped down to just plain 480, and once again, I'm left wondering, is my phone broken?
Is it normal that the N9 has difficulty with grey gradients, like brown hair on black background the screen seems to have huge artifacts of pure black?

And then I tried watching Archer, an awesome new cartoon comedy, and the display murders it. The character's lines are extraordinarily jagged and pixels are quite obvious either side of them.

Both these videos play perfectly on n900, 720p didn't really play nice with either of them.

And could everyone please stop flaming?
IReally did start this thread just to try and sort out the facts on the screen. So future people with keen eyes can read this and decide whether it's actually broken, or just born this way.

THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN OPINIONATED THREAD. IF YOUR INPUT IS SUBJECTIVE, THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU SHOULD BE SHARING IT. OPINIONS ARE NOT VALID COUNTERS TO FACTS

Lumiaman 2012-07-06 14:51

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1232908)
I will try to make this clear,

Do you comprehend what the definition of an opinion is?

And to go even further you know that each person has different Cone cells, thus no one sees the same colours or in same clarity. Just because you see something one way doesn't mean that other person sees it exactly the same!

I am not trying to argue that N9 has a better screen than N900 or Iphone. but colour wise i would pick N9 over them both


This has nothing to do with opinions. I gave you the link to someone who studies resolutions and who tells you that Pentile is shiiitteee. And you keep arguing non-sense, that somehow N9 screen is great. I will give you one thing. Perhaps you prefer N9 over other screens, Luckily you are a minority. Otherwise the company you run, on such inferior screens, would be soon out of business

specc 2012-07-06 16:12

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1232941)
This has nothing to do with opinions. I gave you the link to someone who studies resolutions and who tells you that Pentile is shiiitteee. And you keep arguing non-sense, that somehow N9 screen is great. I will give you one thing. Perhaps you prefer N9 over other screens, Luckily you are a minority. Otherwise the company you run, on such inferior screens, would be soon out of business

Deep down you know you are wrong Mr Lumiaman.

I have explained all this, but screen is both subjective and objective. It's only objective to a point, from that point it becomes subjective. The N9 has a better screen that the N900, that is a fact. It does not have better resolution, but everything else is better.

javispedro 2012-07-06 16:25

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1232996)
I have explained all this, but screen is both subjective and objective. It's only objective to a point, from that point it becomes subjective. The N9 has a better screen that the N900, that is a fact. It does not have better resolution, but everything else is better.

The only facts here is that PenTile is worse, and that AMOLED provides for better contrast but worse indoor readability. So you cannot objectively say anything on whether the N9 screen is better than the N950/N900. You cannot say that AMOLED is better than LCD either -- even without PenTile--, because it has a few cons.

So it all goes down to opinion. E.g. whether you can notice the artifacts of PenTile, or value the increased contrast, or you plan to use the device outdoors.

I personally can't look at the Lumia800 screen without noticing the heavy checkerboard pattern everywhere. But I could get used to it.

specc 2012-07-06 23:31

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1233006)
I personally can't look at the Lumia800 screen without noticing the heavy checkerboard pattern everywhere.

That's not what I would call an opinion. That's more into the borderline psycho kind of stuff. That IS my opinion.

jd4200 2012-07-07 03:17

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
I'm more than happy with the N9 screen and, in my opinion, it exceeds that of the N900 and most other modern devices I've looked at.

I hadn't even noticed the fact that the pixels are noticable until now, but even so I'm glad Nokia went with PenTile technology: using Super AMOLED Plus (non PenTile) is a battery drain.
IIRC, Samsung used the newer of the technology on the S2, but switched back to PenTile on the S3 because of this issue.

Only niggle I have with the screen is touch: I much prefer resistive for many reasons, but more so I can make cool swirly-swirly movements with my fingers compared to the capacitive pinch and zoom.

optimaxxx 2012-07-07 08:52

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
+1 for swirly-swirly, so innovative, cut nokia dropped that

qwazix 2012-07-07 09:28

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
RGB stripe is not newer technology. Go dig up a N85. It is not even for Samsung (i8910). The plus in the name is just a gimmick. And they can't do hd with stripe @4.8in that's why they chose pentile for the S3.

jalyst 2012-07-08 06:22

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
We've kinda had this thread already....
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78488
Goes into all the detail one would need, & more.
I was supposed to get in touch with the Nokia display guru.
Mths went by and I still hadn't (too busy) figured it would be a futile exercise by that point.

javispedro 2012-07-17 09:15

Re: N900 screen v N9 screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1233165)
That's not what I would call an opinion. That's more into the borderline psycho kind of stuff. That IS my opinion.

Well, well. I got an N9. I had entirely forgotten about this thread right until I booted it and saw the "Set up time/date" prompt. Please remember that until now I had only seen that screen on a N950.

And OH GOD :(

The Lumia 800 _at least_ seemingly made an attempt to hide the PenTile checkerboard pattern by minimizing large white surfaces. The N9 doesn't seem to do so. It's a complete disaster and even on the Low-Power-Mode clock you can see it already. Apart from checkerboard there are also green/pink artifacts, but those were quite prevalent on the Lumia800 too.

I'm starting to understand why people are paying $2000 for N950....

Hoping I will eventually get used to it.


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