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onethreealpha 2012-07-20 00:17

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1240038)
... we're going to get answers to many of the lingering Qns now.
Which should hopefully make people at least a bit happier...

Can't make strawberry jam out of cowsh*t.
the people complaining loudest have already been given the answers, but unlike most of us, have chosen to ignore them.

If nothing else this, and the other Jolla thread has allowed me to add some new idiots to my blocked list

gerbick 2012-07-20 01:28

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
So with the closed/open discussion behind us, I want to see the device now.

Or at least a few screens.

specc 2012-07-20 06:30

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1239826)
We did, but nobody seems to listen..

:D Fair enough. But you are a soft spoken person. What is needed is load and clear speech, accurate and precise. That's the only thing working to clear these woods of all the trolls ;)

MINKIN2 2012-07-20 06:49

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
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Originally Posted by wook_sf (Post 1240032)
not yet locked :-O :S (how to add tags? :D)

You can create tags after you reach 300 posts.

Keep plugging away, you are almost there mate :)

specc 2012-07-20 06:50

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1240061)
So with the closed/open discussion behind us, I want to see the device now.

Or at least a few screens.

This have to be it... Nice design, something familiar bout it though, don't know what exactly :rolleyes:

http://www.lajollabluebook.com/asset...lla-iPhone.jpg

MINKIN2 2012-07-20 08:18

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
Eeewww, where is the keyboard, Is that one of Taliban phones that I keep reading about?

;)

thp 2012-07-20 08:24

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1239606)
Yes, strictly spoken Android is open source by the terms of the OSD once they released the source code. But if you don't go by the definition but by the spirit of open source Android is not open. Google only makes it as open as is required by the licenses they are obliged to respect. Unfortunately this kind of openness is worthless.

Still, it's possible to build a working AOSP with working userspace for the N900/N9 (phone calls, etc.. are "hardware adaption", and that's just not done yet), but you can't build Harmattan for an Android device (driver issues aside). The equivalent to AOSP would be Nemo, but it's not day-to-day usable as a phone OS (at least for me). The AOSP UX is (basically) used by Google for their Nexus phones, so it has to work as "standalone product".

Differentiation in Android happens by adding non-essential components or replacing fully working components in AOSP by something from the vendor (TouchWiz, Sense, etc..) whereas in MeeGo/Maemo (what I've seen so far), it happens by *providing* components in the first place - with no or incomplete open source replacements available (mostly that's the UX - "window manager", phone, SMS, contacts apps, web browser, camera app, etc...).

don_falcone 2012-07-20 08:56

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
Hahaha, i knew i've seen this around two months ago in .AU:

>>http://cdn.portfoliobox.net/__client.../menu-logo.png<<

onethreealpha 2012-07-20 09:04

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1240145)
Hahaha, i knew i've seen this around two months ago in .AU:

>>http://cdn.portfoliobox.net/__client.../menu-logo.png<<

I take offense to the insinuation!!! ;)

specc 2012-07-20 09:35

Re: Jolla phones: not so open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1240145)
Hahaha, i knew i've seen this around two months ago in .AU:

>>http://cdn.portfoliobox.net/__client.../menu-logo.png<<

mmmmm food :D


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