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daymeansday 2007-08-07 21:18

Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Am I missing something or is there really no vibrate alert on the N800? Really stinks when I'm in a meeting or somesuch...or am I too dumb to figure out how to make it work? Could be....if you check my previous post...

Holly

Texrat 2007-08-07 22:28

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
...

Vibrate requires a motor or similar actuator. You can't enable on the N800 what doesn't exist.

TA-t3 2007-08-08 09:36

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
I miss that feature too.. not only for meetings, it's impossible to hear the start-chat sound from google or skype when the N800 is in the jacket pocket.

Rocketman 2007-08-08 10:19

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
I think most phones use a motor which spins an unbalanced weight in a circle to produce the vibration effect. I don't believe the N800 even has one of these. It would be nice to have in a future device, but I wouldn't want it to push out almost any other functionality as a result or be forced to make the device bigger.

Texrat 2007-08-08 12:03

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Those motors throw out tremendous EMF, especially small ones since they require very powerful magnets to be effective. That requires shielding. Not saying it *couldn't* be done at all, but if it was a decision based on space, and including it meant something else had to go, then like Rocket I'm ok with it missing.

The LED could conceivably fit the bill for a silent alert, although it would require the device being in line-of-sight (not a showstopper, is it?).

konttori 2007-08-08 12:26

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Isn't there a led already under the dpad. Perhaps it could be used for notifications.

Texrat 2007-08-08 12:44

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Yes, that's the one I was referring to, sorry.

Rocketman 2007-08-08 12:51

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Well, the EMF must not be so bad, as they have been in cell phones forever and those tend to have even more extreme space & weight restrictions.

I found a video of a motor in action. They really are quite small. You can see the video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykpa5r1bWeE

I also found a good page on tiny electric motors (including cell phone vibrating motors) care of David Cook, whom I have bumped into at a couple robotics related events in the Seattle area.

http://robotroom.com/TinyMotor.html

Karel Jansens 2007-08-08 13:22

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Oh, come on boys, be creative: A USB host mode, a USB spark plug, a little semtex...

It's not that difficult. ;)

Texrat 2007-08-08 13:27

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman (Post 66551)
Well, the EMF must not be so bad, as they have been in cell phones forever and those tend to have even more extreme space & weight restrictions.

I found a video of a motor in action. They really are quite small. You can see the video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykpa5r1bWeE

I also found a good page on tiny electric motors (including cell phone vibrating motors) care of David Cook, whom I have bumped into at a couple robotics related events in the Seattle area.

http://robotroom.com/TinyMotor.html

Well, yeah, I know they're in phones but perhaps the potential interference wasn't an issue for whatever reason. And I wasn't focusing on that as much as I was the space issue... which I took that you shared.

But I'm wondering now... would a piezo membrane do the job?

iball 2007-08-08 15:52

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 66563)
Oh, come on boys, be creative: A USB host mode, a USB spark plug, a little semtex...

It's not that difficult. ;)

I've used homemade "remote door operners" before in the Balkans that were less complicated than that.
But you're close...

omegaone37 2007-08-08 16:07

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Because its not a DILDO!!!

Regards...
Omega

Texrat 2007-08-08 16:22

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
...and thus degradeth the thread.

omegaone37 2007-08-08 17:44

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Tex! come on Buddy!

someone had to!

Regards...
Omega

Texrat 2007-08-08 20:24

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Oh, don't think I didn't lol. :p

omegaone37 2007-08-08 21:09

Re: Why Can't There Be a Vibrate Alert?
 
Tex... the sly rat...;)

btw Tex... you haven't approved my request to add you to my Skype "Pals" list... whats up with that??? :D

Regards...
Omega :rolleyes:

ps... not that we really know each other


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