Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1371597)

NOK is up 42% in pre-market and MSFT is down 3%. "Well done, Stevie. Thanks Steve. Can I come home now?"

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1371603)

This is my favorite:

Originally Posted by uTMY (Post 1371516)

Finally the dead rat is pulled from behind the curtain.

On the plus side I doubt we will need to listen to Lumiaman's drivel any longer about how share price will reach $10 and all the rest of his bull while he drools over his precious.

What a waste, my thoughts to all the employees and families that have and will suffer at the hands of Elop.

Rgds

ps. I guess this thread is now superfluous.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1371734)

Elop is an artist. This was the best part of his race to the bottom:

Feb 9, 2011 ($11.73) -- Jul 17, 2012 ($1.69)

Stock loses 85.59% of its value in less than a year and a half.

Attachment 33287

But the largest pre-Elop drop in the post-iPhone era was:

Nov 6, 2007 ($41.10) -- Mar 2, 2009 ($8.74)

That was a 78.73% loss.

Elop is the winner!

Attachment 33288

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1371676)

Actually looking at it, this was a brilliant move by the Finnish board. They knew they lost the battle in mobile devices and OS, and decided its time to cut the dead weight and concentrate on telecommunications. They acquired Siemens and still have their patent portfolio. They are sailing into a new territory, and its good for everyone. Viva Nokia!

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1371734)

Elop is an artist. This was the best part of his race to the bottom:

Feb 9, 2011 ($11.73) -- Jul 17, 2012 ($1.69)

Stock loses 85.59% of its value in less than a year and a half.

Attachment 33287

But the largest pre-Elop drop in the post-iPhone era was:

Nov 6, 2007 ($41.10) -- Mar 2, 2009 ($8.74)

That was a 78.73% loss.

Elop is the winner!

Attachment 33288

Originally Posted by cheve (Post 1371882)

Q: were there any stock spliting between Nov 6, 2007 to Mar 2, 2009?

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1371886)

Wow! So NOW you admit that they were losing their battle in mobile devices and that the OS was flailing? For once, I agree on everything you just said above. It's nice to see you coming around to reality. :)



It takes a LOT of effort to go from #1 cellphone maker all the way to the last place! It was a VERY fast race to the bottom! He's got Microsoft written ALL over him! GO GET HIM, MICROSOFT! This is DEFINITELY your boy!



According to both Yahoo and Google finance charts, there were dividends but no stock splits. (Why would they stock-split during those periods??? hahahah)

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1371968)

I am optimistic for Lumias under MS. They will get more resources and love than at Nokia.

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1371973)

With this statement I have to agree. MS will use lot of effort to promote the WP platform and there will be new Lumia models, propably at an attractive price point.

However that will not make the devices any more attractive to me. :D

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1371997)

Do you think Microsoft will be able to compete effectively within all the architectual limitations that have held back Windows Phone as it has for all these years already? (ie. it's limited to Qualcom processors, limited to certain specifications, etc.). Do you think maybe they'll start to break out of those limitations now that they also run a hardware division now? I mean.. they already had a hardware division before with the Danger Inc. aquisition and they fumbled that completed and miserably--will they do that again this time around or do you think they've learned from that experience, based on what you've seen lately?

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1371734)

Elop is an artist. This was the best part of his race to the bottom:

Feb 9, 2011 ($11.73) -- Jul 17, 2012 ($1.69)

Stock loses 85.59% of its value in less than a year and a half.

Attachment 33287

But the largest pre-Elop drop in the post-iPhone era was:

Nov 6, 2007 ($41.10) -- Mar 2, 2009 ($8.74)

That was a 78.73% loss.

Elop is the winner!

Attachment 33288

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372021)

Actually it was Olli-Pekka who presided over the largest drop of NOKIA stock and it kept sliding downwards when Elop took over. Its all pre-ELOP effect, he was just an agent to sell a highly dysfunctional division.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372026)

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about so either STFU or try using actual math with numbers.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372026)

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about so either STFU or try using actual math with numbers.

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1371973)

propably at an attractive price point.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372031)

Let me make it easier for you Mr. STFU

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=67

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372034)

Yeah, I saw that pathetic attempt at a point. Did you actually do the math? That's what I thought. But no need, because I already did it for you. Again, you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. As usual. Maybe I'll beat some more math over your head later.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372038)

Oh my, sooo angry that you are wrong again. I look at the slope of that curve, pretty nasty under Finn, eh. And then it slowly peters down under Finn and Elop. You are a fraud, and you cant face the reality that investors started fleeing NOKIA long before Elop. And some smart people on the NOKIA board knew that Devices and Services division was not functional. Proves the point that smart men and women were pulling money out of NOKIA for years before Elop. Stop spreading Tomi A nuttola kind of delusional charts.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372042)

Wow, you really do have zero skills in this arena. Feel free to keep punching yourself in the face, but why not try some actual math. Or do numbers scare you, little boy?

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372043)

There is nothing like visual truth.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372047)

Yeah, except actual truth. Are you sure you don't want to try some numbers? C'mon, it'll be fun. I'll give you the dates, and you fill in the blanks and have a good cry. And we only have to talk about stuff that happened after Steve Jobs announced the first iPhone (January 9, 2007).

I have a great scenario where you get to short the stock under the old regime, and then you can buy some back under Elop. Care to play?

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372050)

Dude, it doesnt matter anymore, does it. Its gone, sold, bye, bye, cao amigo. The trend on the charts are clear, and yes, there are some peaks and valleys where you can hide and play your game. But overall trend from Olli-Pekka till know was down baby, down.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372052)

Oh, it doesn't matter anymore? Cool, then STFU.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372062)

I sense a degree of irrational

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1372254)

I'm not sure I understand why you're both pissing back and forth about this without actually laying out the numbers and stats for what you're telling the other to STFU about. Furthermore, it's distracting from the very same conversation you're having to simply tell the other to shut up. Elaborate so everyone else gets something valuable out of this or else don't bother replying.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1372262)

All we have been talking about is Microsoft CEO, who will be the NOKIA CEO after Elop? Will they bring in crazy Tomi A to bring back ovi store and Symbian....hahhahahhahahah.........but jokes aside, who will be the NOKIA CEO?

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1372254)

I'm not sure I understand why you're both pissing back and forth about this without actually laying out the numbers and stats for what you're telling the other to STFU about.

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1372254)

Elaborate so everyone else gets something valuable out of this or else don't bother replying.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1372315)

I already did. Three people quoted me, including you and the infant. But to be fair, my last number was inaccurate. It should have been June, 29 2010 ($8.02) and thus the largest post-iPhone, pre-Elop stock loss was 80.49%, still over 5% less than Elop's worst [Feb 9, 2011 ($11.73) -- Jul 17, 2012 ($1.69) a loss of 85.59%].

Here's what the board was thinking at the close of business on July 17, 2012: "Steven's got this!"

It took Elop less than a year and a half to decimate Nokia. The rate of loss looks even worse for the mole, but that's left to the reader.



So, now my numbers exist in five different posts, or would you like me to elaborate some more? Sorry if I'm a little rusty, I stopped spoon feeding my son almost a decade ago.