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tebsu 2012-09-06 21:46

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i will be a happy jolla owner :)

eaglehelang 2012-09-07 12:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zlatokosi (Post 1262345)

They did it right with the 808, releasing actual photos taken by the device to the public on day 1 of the announcement, and wouldn't you know it, the world was stunned/impressed.

That's how you do it.

That's cos 808 is actually up to the challenge.
It just goes to show the "Pureview" name is added to push Lumia sales.

Wait a min, isnt the current Marketing Director originally from MS? If that's true, it figures why.

Nokia's previous releases as far as I remember didnt pull a stunt like this, it's 'this is what you will actually get' style

Rauha 2012-09-07 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglehelang (Post 1262611)
Wait a min, isnt the current Marketing Director originally from MS?

Chris '15 years at Microsoft' Weber is indeed part of the Microsoft Puppet army that Elop brought into Nokia.

HtheB 2012-09-07 13:13

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Nokia gets sued for this fraud
Check the complaint:
http://www.rgrdlaw.com/media/cases/140_Complaint.pdf

Great! I really love it :)
Stupid *ss elop with his lumia

erendorn 2012-09-07 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1262627)
Nokia gets sued for this fraud
Check the complaint:
http://www.rgrdlaw.com/media/cases/140_Complaint.pdf

Great! I really love it :)
Stupid *ss elop with his lumia

This is about the bad sales of WP against what was promised by Nokia in 2011.. Nothing to do with this video..

NokiaFanatic 2012-09-07 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1262370)
interesting article from the iPotato & m@ke$$h!t toilet paper roll site...
Nokia’s ‘Contingency Plan’: 5 Possible Company-Saving Scenarios
the scenarios aren't even that interesting, a 10 year old who followed NOKIA's last few years could come up with them...
what's much more interesting coming from such a m0##0nic site is the simple fact that they can gather a future NOKIA without m@ke$$h!t ¦-)))
must have blown out whatever brains they had left :D

There is no plan B. If Windows Phone fails, there won't be anymore money left for Nokia to move to yet another platform.

eaglehelang 2012-09-07 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1262618)
Chris '15 years at Microsoft' Weber is indeed part of the Microsoft Puppet army that Elop brought into Nokia.

No wonder! The hype & more hype style ala Apple as compared to the restrained marketing style :p

misterc 2012-09-08 09:12

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Nokia Lumia 920 vs. Apple iPhone 4S

well, at least they made it a notch above last year's iPotato :rolleyes:
too bad Apple is going to run them into the ground in a few days time :eek:

misterc 2012-09-08 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1262682)
There is no plan B. If Windows Phone fails, there won't be anymore money left for Nokia to move to yet another platform.

this is not a NOKIA "plan B" :mad:
that's confabulations from a pseudo-techno news site :rolleyes:
alas :(

kai_en 2012-09-08 15:24

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giving credit where it's due, without the pureview branding, the OIS tech inserted does help to give better low light performance, by giving more light in by slower shutter speed. It's something we've seen on N86, where they manipulate the aperture that time. This reminds me of N86 a lot.

Of course the promotional video showing the girl jumping up and down when taking night shots definitely is a poor illustration how OIS can help in night shots. The only way to freeeze those shots are with external lighting with extreme fast shutter speed

I dont like how Nokia gives false portrayal of tech usage on their lumia series, it's too ala Apple (might they actually hold a patent for that as well?). Nokia always proud to show their camera sample raw on their symbian product and don't do simulated results like this.

Lumiaman 2012-09-08 17:16

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Please don't forget two simple words. Symbian sucks. Downloaded Belle **** on my N9 and it's useless. Why Would anyone buy 808

Dousan 2012-09-08 17:30

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Do you mean N8?If not no wonder it's useless :p

Dousan...

patlak 2012-09-08 17:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1263263)
Please don't forget two simple words. Symbian sucks. Downloaded Belle **** on my N9 and it's useless. Why Would anyone buy 808

Because, unlike you, people actually like Symbian. I don't see any fault as others do and have no issues using the said OS. Also, most of my girlfriends have Symbian devices and none complain. It seems only Americans are incompetent when it comes to Symbian. An OS full of features is disregarded for an OS that had no copy/paste. Sad days in today's world.

Now, to answer your question as to why someone would buy an 808:

- 41mp camera with 1080p recording and stereo rich recording
- HDMI out
- USB on the GO
- Mass Storage
- Quite a large amount of apps in store
- it's not an iPhone, nor Android/WP7, etc
- Multitasking
- GPS nav
- Exclusive
- Real Nokia


....Shall I go on???

Lumiaman 2012-09-08 17:38

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You hang out with unsophisticated girls if they are still using Symbian. Do they wax?

misterc 2012-09-08 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1263276)
You hang out with unsophisticated girls if they are still using Symbian. Do they wax?

you don't have N9s anymore, remember?
sold them

and if you tried to download Symbian Belle on one, well, your technical incompetency is beyond salvage...
maybe Mme Tussauds?

but one can understand better why you call yourself Darkman ¦-)))))
your level of technical competency >¦-)

patlak 2012-09-08 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1263276)
You hang out with unsophisticated girls if they are still using Symbian. Do they wax?

Thanks for the heads up, never thought a girl with an iphone implies that she's waxed.

Dousan 2012-09-08 18:13

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That gives a whole new meaning to:

*wax on - wax off*

Dousan...

patlak 2012-09-08 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 1263304)
That gives a whole new meaning to:

*wax on - wax off*

Dousan...

Thank You Sensei Miyagi...Your words are wise and deep. ;)

don_falcone 2012-09-08 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1263276)
You hang out with unsophisticated girls if they are still using Symbian. Do they wax?

Sure; they are waxing his knob, but not yours.

jtts 2012-09-08 21:30

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Apparently Nokia's upper management didn't know about the true nature of the ad. At least according to Helsingin Sanomat (biggest newspaper in Finland). A Nokia employee said to the newspaper that Elop has launched an investigation to the incident. The employee says that things have gotten pretty heated up.

Source (in Finnish):
http://m.hs.fi/inf/infomo?site=hs&vi...=1305597794653

gerbick 2012-09-08 22:08

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The real blame is on the advertising firm that put this together. I can't say it's on Nokia. Not exactly.

Shame though. Impressive camera specs and hardware performance will now be forever marred by marketing.

jtts 2012-09-08 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1263360)
The real blame is on the advertising firm that put this together. I can't say it's on Nokia. Not exactly.

Shame though. Impressive camera specs and hardware performance will now be forever marred by marketing.

HS says that the ad was made by a production company named Kennel Helsinki.

I think it's hard to say where the blame should lie, though I think there's plenty to go around. At least without knowing whether the guy at Nokia that ordered the ad from the production company actually knew what the advertising firm was up to. Either way, blatant incompetence at work.

Lumiaman 2012-09-09 05:30

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Ads are always spiced up. Let's move on and stop beating a dead horse

Dave999 2012-09-09 06:05

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ha ha, an investigation. Elop should take his responsibility and resign.

The makers av this movie are doing a far superior job than elop.

He should launch an investigation against himself.

misterc 2012-09-09 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1263360)
The real blame is on the advertising firm that put this together. I can't say it's on Nokia. Not exactly.

Shame though. Impressive camera specs and hardware performance will now be forever marred by marketing.

i consider pretty much any and all advertisement SPAM but, still. advertisement companies get instructions, brain storm some media to embody a message & present it to the company...
case at hand, for past NOKIA product introductions there never were such "lies" involved
here there are
maybe the ad department got desperate considering the unsubstantial sales of Dark products, maybe they though they could get away with it, maybe it is the ultimate FART...
we'll never know, 'cuz if anyone gets blamed, it won't be the farthole...
hopefully he won't get anymore bonuses :confused:

don't blame the ad company for using whatever was needed to get the message across, okay?

uTMY 2012-09-09 13:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1263449)
Ads are always spiced up. Let's move on and stop beating a dead horse

Nah, lets keep beating the dead body ... its fun watching Nokia squirm, the Board with Elop at the helm are entirely responsible for the actions of the company period!

Just following orders doesn't cut it ... Spiced up = lying

Besides they canned what I consider to be probably the best phone on the planet for my purposes.

They reap what they sow, they deserve everything they get.

rgds

gerbick 2012-09-09 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1263564)
i consider pretty much any and all advertisement SPAM but, still. advertisement companies get instructions, brain storm some media to embody a message & present it to the company...

I've worked at 3 agencies in the past. Creative expression sometimes comes in the form of hyperbole. And if the project manager and/or salesperson can sell it, that hyperbole becomes the ads that you see and the consumer gets upset about much later.

I can never say that I've had a hamburger look like the ones in the commercials. Can say the same for most electronics too.

Quote:

case at hand, for past NOKIA product introductions there never were such "lies" involved
Wouldn't know. The advertising in North America has been nonexistent since the late 80's. The ones in Europe were simple: "Nokia has a new phone. Buy it. Buy its replacement too that's just around the corner next year."

Quote:

don't blame the ad company for using whatever was needed to get the message across, okay?
Ever worked at an ad agency? Curious.

misterc 2012-09-10 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1263826)
I've worked at 3 agencies in the past. Creative expression sometimes comes in the form of hyperbole. And if the project manager and/or salesperson can sell it, that hyperbole becomes the ads that you see and the consumer gets upset about much later.

I can never say that I've had a hamburger look like the ones in the commercials. Can say the same for most electronics too.

yeah, advertisement... remember those ads for washing powder when i was a kid, watching the ads... well, back then they were less intrusive & in blocks, so you had time to go to the loo and could catch an ad or two back in your seat >¦-))))))
washing powder X cleans your laundry whiter then white... :rolleyes:
whatever m0##0nic idiot buys washing powder X after watching THAT... doesn't deserve any better :p

no, indeed, until a few years back NOKIA didn't have to do much ads for their products, for NOKIAs.
the brand in some country was (and partly still is) synonym of mobile phone.

not quite anymore.
when did that change? when farthole arrived?
was before, wasn't it?
but before farthole, we didn't have those blatant lies, did we?
and even after farthole arrived, we still had ads (e.g. 808 PV) that were, well, close enough to the truth that no one really cared to question it...
and then the last desperate attempt to sell Dark devices...

thus...

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1263826)
Ever worked at an ad agency? Curious.

wild guess ?!?


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