Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1329054)

Sorry I took my time to write back to you. I had to think about something there, on how to express myself :D
Of course the following expresses only my views, I cannot speak for others.

For most people doing kernel development this is an addicting hobby, but it's not our day job, it's not the thing we get paid for.
Thus, I look at parts which intrest me for personal reasons, things I can do and tweak to get the device perform the way I want and need it to behave. From time to time I hit some wall that proves to be too difficult to scale for me, at least at that moment. Or it might be I find something more intresting to hack at. At that time, I might well stop working at the current project and start doing something else.

Sometimes, I manage to do something even other people find useful, and that is wonderful. It makes me feel good to see people using my works, and it gives me good karma.
What I make and develop, are freely available to others to use, enjoy, extend and further develop under GPL.

If I accepted financial compensation/benefits from the work I am doing, it could lessen its meaning as a hobby and increase its meaning as work. Thus I would be obliged to work towards the goals I was rewarded for, and it would greatly reduce the freedom I like in my development.

Rather than financial support, I would like to see you too take part in development, learning the skills to create beautiful working software :)
This community is community of developers, we welcome people willing to learn our arts and are happy to share our learnings.

Originally Posted by EgyptRocks265 (Post 1342755)

hey
juiceme I'm currently a student and i took through It course at school but we don't take linux coding till next year so far we did html as far as it comes to coding lol i only got my n9 2 month ago but and learning your art is something I'm willing to put my time into could you point me in the write direction any idea on how or where to start!?! :D

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1343558)

Join the talk in IRC channel: #mer and #nemomobile @irc.freenode.net there are many great people who'll be happy to help you out :)

Originally Posted by EgyptRocks265 (Post 1342755)

hey
juiceme I'm currently a student and i took through It course at school but we don't take linux coding till next year so far we did html as far as it comes to coding lol i only got my n9 2 month ago but and learning your art is something I'm willing to put my time into could you point me in the write direction any idea on how or where to start!?! :D

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1343955)

If you really are serious about kernel programming then I highly recommend The Linux Programming Interface: A Linux and UNIX System Programming Handbook by Michael Kerrisk. At 1500+ pages it will take some dedication to get through it but it does cover just about everything and even if you don't read it all, it still serves as a great reference.

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1343955)

If you really are serious about kernel programming then I highly recommend The Linux Programming Interface: A Linux and UNIX System Programming Handbook by Michael Kerrisk. At 1500+ pages it will take some dedication to get through it but it does cover just about everything and even if you don't read it all, it still serves as a great reference.

Originally Posted by EgyptRocks265 (Post 1348569)

hey wicket would the book also give a kick starter is making/developing apps ?

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1348690)

No, it's purely for systems programming, it assumes you have prior knowledge of C. Given the context of this thread, I thought this is what you were interested in learning.

If you are only interested in making high-level apps for Harmattan then this book is not for you. Your best bet would be to learn a combination of Qt/QML and C++ or Python.

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1313636)

You might build a kernel that is usable with a hacked version of Harmattan where in addition of the normal aegis-neutering you need to remove quite a lot of stuff from the OS that uses the aegis interfaces in kernel (or you could port back those as dummy interfaces to the 3.x.x kernel... I have not tried that.)

There are precompiled binaries but none of the abovenmentioned stuff of course exists in those so you need to roll your own.

Building the kernel is pretty straighthtforward, on a debian based linux you need to install ARM cross-compilation tools (but no scratchbox et al is needed), for example "apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi"

Then get the source via git pull or download the zips from github.
(https://github.com/nemomobile/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9)

Compiling is fairly simple when you have the source tree correctly set up;

• 1.) do your modifications to source and configuration files
• 2.) configure the options; "make clean; make mrproper; ARCH=arm make rm696_nemo_defconfig" ## this is for the base configuration
• 3.) "ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make"
• 4.) "ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make modules_install"
• 5.) copy modules to device, do not forget to "depmod -a <mod_dir>"
• 6.) flash the beast to your device

Originally Posted by gemfield (Post 1387518)

1, ARCH=arm make rm696_nemo_defconfig" Can't find default configuration "arch/arm/configs/rm696_nemo_defconfig", missing some procedure?
2, can this kernel loaded by ubiboot?

Originally Posted by myname24 (Post 1465078)

https://mobile.twitter.com/fi1ippz/s...4572078080?p=v well bad news , filip N9 has died someone who has an extra N9 should donate it to him .

Originally Posted by hedayat (Post 1449498)

The kernel now works fine on N9, but, as you said, there is not enough motivation in upstreaming it. IIRC, it seems that many bits depend on closed source user space, and so are probably unsuitable for upstreaming (probably will not be accepted upstream)?
Also, probably the first step to upstream more code is to replace most of N9 board file with device tree equivalant.

Originally Posted by hedayat (Post 1472374)

hmmm... the kernel supports N9 completely (IIRC), but I'm not sure if it supports Harmattan too. I've not tried it, and don't remember if it is supposed to work there. Is there anything you are hoping to get under Harmattan with the new kernel? It was manly needed to support new versions of SFOS and Nemo.

Originally Posted by badpixel (Post 1473663)

Dalvik/Androids needs new linux kernel. Reading dev posts I understand that the main stopper for android layer on Harmattan were old kernel. There was new kernel working with Nitdroid, but it didn't had patches backported, and w/o GSM module support phone would be a bit useless for me ;-)