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tonymaro 2007-08-12 00:14

Thummim Reader available
 
I was frustrated with the lack of bible readers (other than Rapier) for Maemo (n800), and more especially I needed something that supported the LDS standard works (KJV Bible, Book of Mormon, etc) so I wrote it in Python:

http://www.maro.net/ns/thummim.jpg

Visit the website for downloads.

It's GPL licensed and I have a desktop PC utility for downloading the Bible from the web (I don't include any texts.)

gsagers 2007-08-14 13:09

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Glad to see it. I'll try it out soon.

Just for reference, the LDS standard works are available in Plucker format at Memoware, but FBReader takes upwards of two minutes to load the full 8MB file. Once opened it's fast, but the load time is really poor - I suspect it's uncompressing the full file into RAM as it loads.

I have had no luck getting FBReader to open the Mobipocket version available from memoware or other sites, even though they're non-DRM'ed.

brianburnham 2007-08-14 17:55

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Great tool! I was able to get the ripper to work on Windows, but had to figure a few things out the hard way. Thought I'd share here:

Installer link for GTK for windows: here (second item)

Installer for Python for Windows: here

Installer for required python modules (PyCairo, PyGObject, PyGTK) here, yes you need all three.

Also, not sure if this was a Windows problem, but the script hit an error on the Book of Mormon and Doctrine & Covenants:

Error in line 213: local variable 'doctitle' referenced before assignment

Once I got that fixed, I got a similar error for the variable 'addurl'.

I resolved both these by saving a copy of the ldsripper.py and hard-coding these values into the script rather than using variables.

Can't wait to load these guys up on my iTab.

tonymaro 2007-08-17 16:57

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I just added a link to an all-in-one installer for the required Python stuff for Windows on my description page. It will make it easier for Windows users to get rolling:

http://tony.maro.net/ossramblings/thummim.php

If you haven't tried the latest version, I've recently added direct-download support of several LDS class manuals and documents within the Thummim application (no separate desktop app needed.) These docs are all small enough they download in just a couple of minutes from your Nokia.

I actually ran the ldsripper app on my Nokia, but I found it so slow to be pretty useless trying to download books as large as the Old Testament. I think I will probably never implement that directly on the handheld.

I've also added the ability to copy text from within Thummim for use elsewhere and cleaned up and enhanced the notes section. I also added a click timer to keep you from accidentally causing phantom clicks (double clicks) when using your fingers. I was having constant problems of skipping pages when using my thumb to change pages.

The last feature I still want to add is full text search.

On the topic of speed with the Plucker docs, no doubt that's the problem. That's why I designed Thummim to load only a few K of text at a time, just enough to fill the screen. You don't notice any load delay when you click next or previous page, but that's when it actually loads the text. That's the reason my files are stored in plain text as well, instead of compressed.

tonymaro 2007-08-17 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brianburnham (Post 68449)
Also, not sure if this was a Windows problem, but the script hit an error on the Book of Mormon and Doctrine & Covenants:

Error in line 213: local variable 'doctitle' referenced before assignment

Once I got that fixed, I got a similar error for the variable 'addurl'.

I resolved both these by saving a copy of the ldsripper.py and hard-coding these values into the script rather than using variables.

That's odd. I've only used it in Linux, so it might be a Windows thing but that seems odd. I'll do some testing and see if there's anything I can do to change that. I may have introduced a bug, because I think when I downloaded my own copies was before I added the GUI, so I was hard-coding all of it into the file then.

tonymaro 2007-08-17 17:30

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I found the bug in ldsripper that caused the D&C and Book of Mormon to not download correctly. I've released a new version to fix this.

stradavarius 2007-08-24 13:03

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This is a great app. Thanks! Where can I find a download of the standard works that will work w/ thummim? Im using the n800. Or must I use the ldsripper on my desktop? Maybe i'm missing an app on the n800 to execute the py file?

basco 2007-08-24 15:50

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Its a pretty good app, I just need explanation on how to use notes. I got everything to work fine with no problems. Its just that it's too LDS for me.

stradavarius 2007-08-27 06:21

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I just used the Python shell on my Windows box and it worked great. Thanks!

DataPath 2008-01-08 15:42

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This doesn't install on OS2008. Or at least, not without a lot of effort.

If I try to install it directly, it reports "Incompatible package". If I install becomeroot, type "sudo gainroot", and then install it from the command line, it works.

mrklaw 2008-01-12 04:30

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I installed version 0.2.0 on my n800 with OS2008 and it installed with no problems.

I am using the ripper tool to download the standard works on my Ubuntu box right now.

Is there a way to download the latest priesthood manual?

bmy 2008-09-21 14:46

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I have an N810 and would love to have a usable lds scripture reader like thummim. For those that got it to work on os2008 can you tell me how? If lds.org has changed its scripture format so that files can't be created using the ldsripper, can someone supply me their thummim readable files?

email me at young.brett (a t) gmail.com

Thanks,
Brett

Descalzo 2010-04-18 05:25

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What are the chances this can be made to work on the N900? Furthermore, what are the chances anyone will read this thread after 18 months?

epage 2010-04-20 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Descalzo (Post 615548)
What are the chances this can be made to work on the N900? Furthermore, what are the chances anyone will read this thread after 18 months?

I had gotten permission to take over ownership of Thummim but haven't had much time to devote to it (especially since I'd have to re-work the whole ripper system).

Instead I am looking at working with the LDSTech community to "port" (rewrite) the iPhone Gospel Library and Mormon Channels apps to Maemo. These actually use a web API which will be much more stable

bronzetank 2010-08-26 22:20

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Epage, how is the port coming? Any progress?

epage 2010-08-26 23:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bronzetank (Post 799485)
Epage, how is the port coming? Any progress?

The Mormon Channel app has been done for over 4 months but they haven't released it. If someone will provide a suggested name Id release it independently

As for gospel library Ive instead be focusing on learning qt so I could write it to also work well on meego. Im tempted to write a lds contact and calendar qtmobility plugi too but first things first. It also hasn't helped that the last couple of months have been hectic (tech related but @not mly an announcement soon)


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