Re: sailfish for n9
 

ENOUGH of this jolla spam!

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Guys. It would help a lot if you could check twice before posting something. DALVIK (the Android VM) is free and open source (apache license). Nothing stops you from porting it to your N9, N900 or Nokia 3310 for all we care.

MYRIAD ALIEN DALVIK is a different thing.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

nokia n9 and n950 has same os.... and n9 is far bettter than n950...
so it will b definitely available for nokia n9 by hackers... :)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

I actually don't care whether Sailfish OS will be available on N9 (and not because I don't own one).
The question is deeper. Sailfish is Mer + some parts of Nemo + Jolla UI.
So for sure we know that two parts of it are free software. Therefore we can port it even to different architecture, not only N9. The question is whether Jolla UI part is free software? Alien Dalvik definitely is not, so you cannot run Android apps on other devices unless you implement your own Dalvik port.
So it is necessary to define "hack", what does it mean, that experienced hacker can port it? Does it mean that he can take binary build and force it to run on a different device, or does it mean he can adapt this software to run on a different device by hacking the source.
For me, the first way is not acceptable, i. e. I wouldn't use such a port to N9, and I would prefer to run Nemo. By running it I would know I contribute to it's development, even by reporting bugs, and by asking people to port some FLOSS to it.

Re: sailfish for n9
 

Bring it on! Any info about a possible alternative OS for the N9 or N950 is a positive thing, surely?
I, for one, am interested. As much as I like the MeeGo OS, it's lacking in a few departments and is not as user friendly as other Nokia's I own.
I think a Sailfish thread is applicable, especially when I read this on Jolla's FB page;
"Sailfish Jolla operating system is an extension developed by Nokia and Intel's MeeGo open operating system"
The more info, the better!

Re: sailfish for n9
 

hi guyzz can y0u plz put iph0ne in my nokia i wnt play skyrim in ma fone plz thx a lot hackers you rOo0ck

Re: sailfish for n9
 

Seeing as a number of members have already rejected Sailfish OS from Jolla as an alternative, up and coming OS, I can't see them having anything to do with iPhone OS.

Having a Nokia N9 or N950 means you don't want an iPhone.

Good luck with that request, but I think you are in the wrong forum altogether!

Re: sailfish for n9
 

** Sorry, post edited :D **

Re: sailfish for n9
 

It may be possible, Android has been ported to Nokia, albeit, it doesn't work 100%, so it may be feasible to port iOS to Nokia, but why in my mind, no point. Just my opinion! :)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Sailfish for N9? Officially -> A BIG NO.
But unofficially -> Possible if developed by N9 Dev
* As some might aware from youtube, its already running on N950 :D

so far all im interested is the ability to run android app. Hopefully some dev will work their magic to make android app to run on Meego.

Interm of Ui, i still love the way Meego looks.

Re: sailfish for n9
 

Dude, stop taking hariainm's post seriously. He is a veteran TMO user and is very aware of the abilities of the maemo community and devices. Most of his posts are well meaning and often informative (a nice guy IMO) but this time he is taking the piss!

And yes I did find his post amusing ;)

Re: sailfish for n9
 

Yes we know about it, and it has been discussed in 3 previous threads. It will be ported as Jolla said on Twitter. But no tutorial yet. And please, kindly, ask a moderator to either take down that thread or merge them all in the thread in off-topic.. Thanks

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

https://twitter.com/JollaIndia/statu...10078027710464
http://jollafr.org/sailfish-os-pourr...nokia-n9-n950/

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

There is also the issue how its working on a unoptimized device. The user experience unknown. But one thing is clear it will never be the same as with all jolla device.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

I wonder if the N9 specs are gonna be "enough" for Sailfish!
Here's hoping it has even lower requirements than Harmattan.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

shame, Jolla should release the binaries for N9 (even unofficially) and have an instant user/hacker/tester/dev base...

They don't have HW, the N9 is old now so it's not going to hurt them, the opposite.

And it'll foster better community (us) involvement, I hope to see it when they release the SDK.

My guess is that it's not ready, being a bit more usable then Meego.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

What's with the selfish ignorant folk who DEMAND that Sailfish be brought to the Nokia N9, a device from a completely different company?

How can a (once-)bright community fill a bu****** thread like this with 5 pages of even more **ll****?

Y'know, sticking around was hard enough already, especially after the whole WhatsApp happening (-> people DEMANDING Wazapp to be released before it was ready and filling ****sh** threads with ******it posts, contributing absolutely NOTHING to the website), but you guys are really ruining TMO for me with this kind of childish behaviour.

Yes, I'm ranting and shitposting, but it's "merely" the cry of someone who is witnessing the death of his favourite community and tech-website :/
Can't you guys just continue your own shitposting on the comments section of whichever engadget.com article?

/rant

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

There can be some licensing issues that prevent Jolla from making an official N9 Sailfish port. Community however could come up with such port, since Nemo already runs with Mer's N9 hw adaptation, so nothing would prevent Sailfish from doing the same in theory.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

TMO jumped the shark years ago, all that's left are petulant children. I'm amazed the Hildon Foundation expects to make any progress at all what with the fights over whether Finders Keepers really does mean Losers Weepers.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Nemo Core + Jolla's device-agnostic repo + decision of user to use said repo + apt-get install sailfish-components

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

probably :)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

To deliberately read a post that irritates you and then flame on (or out) is impossibly childish. Grow up.

Emotional balance aside, I think that this community is a great potential resource for Jolla, and I am sure that they recognize the same, which is likely why they pointed out how easy it will be to bring Sailfish to the N9. Unless radical improvement is made, I imagine Sailfish will fail. Right now, it does not appear nearly as good as Harmattan or BB10 or Android or iOS or . . . you name it.

This community represents a natural partner to help speed the developmental schedule for Jolla to produce a best-possible product. We have compatible hardware (most of us), we are aligned with their goals, and we want to help. They'd be crazy to ignore us, so I'm sure that they will channel (or back-channel) Sailfish to us to test/develop/enjoy.

Time will tell.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

it is obviously Jolla won't support N9!!
Sailfish is different to MeeGo; it is a new version of MeeGo;
and Nokia is Meego owner not Jolla. So jolla cant do nothing with other property!!!
i wont any update of MeeGo began Sailfish
________________
N9 now DIE definitely

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Then how can i porting Sailfish in my N9? somebody knowing how to doing that???

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Surely, they won't support it. It doesn't mean that community can't make a port, since it's technically possible.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Start with the study of the English language and then proceed to study a relevant programming language. ;)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

they already confirmed that they will release sailfilsh for N9, see my links above. and confirmed that they won't support it.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

If you mean these, then you have not understood them very well...

Anyone with a #Nokia #N9 can try Sailfish OS thanks to the community. But, @JollaMobile won't officially support it.


You have the Nokia N9 and you are hacker?! Good news!

Sailfish OS can be flashed on your Nokia N9 / N950 as soon as the image is available.

Jolla has nothing to do with Nokia, who will flash their N9 / N950 Nokia will lose the warranty, something quite normal. No support from La Jolla will be made for the N9 / N950, so you can try the OS your own risk!

However, the user experience on the N9 will not be identical to the smartphone Jolla, which will come out next year.

Pending more information on how to flash, compatibilities, differences in OS between devices, etc ... it is already a very good news. The Nokia N9 will be entitled to a second life and will delight hackers.

EDIT: Some details from the field. Jolla normally release their code additions, such as graphics libraries used to their interface, but will not image. Hackers will build themselves.

Jolla by not provide any support for the cons N9. And especially not for their services.


There will be no release for the n9. They did mention their community releases but have not said anything about what devices.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Just to fully answer the thread

Jolla announced:

Me being so kind here is a new 10 minute UI demo, hope you enjoy :)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Whoo boy. If the N9 image works like it does on the N950, I have found my new daily driver.

Also, I hope that on the N9, we'll still get a low-power clock.
(Given that they've shown most demos on the N950, I can only hope.)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

JollaMobile Facebook page is not the official one (jollaofficial is the right one) and the statemant from jolla is this:

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Oh, wow, I missed that. Whoops.

Although, if it already does run on the N950, it should run on the N9.

Plus, releasing an image for the N9/50 and calling it an early reference device should get it some traction for interested developers (or tinkerers.)

I'll be here hoping for the Nemo packages ;)

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

Probably we will get jalla teared in parts like Nitdroid partly nonfunctional, and by the way there will not be much software for it at the beginning, if it's not possible using meego or linux existing software....I'm quiet confuse, should i always be like newborn child looking searching and waiting for software to feed my phone and my needs!?

Can anyone explain Jolla OS...what software is open to use on jolla....MeeGo?, Linux?, Java?, Android?, Maemo? web script&flash? or what?

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

what phones was jolla using at slush? weren't those N9 and N950? so this means it's already ported, just for legal reasons they cannot support it.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

This; you spoke it out, thanks. And if it was originally not only true regarding certain large ethnicity groups from southern Asia, i can now tell it got worse around the time the N9 arrived, along with a shatload of very different/simple minded kids - see OP.

Re: No Sailfish Update for N9, really?
 

While UI+core will definitely be soon ported/booted on N9, doubt Jolla's licensing deal with Myriad will allow for full-JollaOS-images. First time aliendalvik gets released afaik. Hope I'm wrong, as this could also bring it to N900

Re: sailfish for n9
 

Anyone wanna void their warranty? https://www.facebook.com/JollaMobile...54501034563739

https://www.facebook.com/JollaMobile...53200098027166

(Facebook links, sorry)

Re: sailfish for n9
 

Actually, I'm looking to mess up my n9 pretty bad since I don't like it as my top three phones. Can't wait.

Re: sailfish for n9
 

am wanting to get a nexus 4, and if its possible to have sailfish on the s3, why wouldnt it be possible for the nexus 4

Re: sailfish for n9
 

first of all that page on facebook is an unofficial jolla page
second almost everyone here lost warranty but a quick reflash will restore it .