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sixwheeledbeast 2014-10-24 11:22

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1444067)
This should simulate a realistic load scenario for the SD card that concurrently serves as swap disks but also as data storage.

Feel free to comment if the performance is in line of what to expect from the N900 in this scenario.

Thanks for the video.

This is another good point, writing swap and reading/writing data.
There is only so much bandwidth so if large amounts of swap are moving to the card this will slow the other card processes down.

As an aside, I am after some feedback of the new statusbar in FlopSwap what do we think?

ste-phan 2014-10-24 12:42

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1444114)
As an aside, I am after some feedback of the new statusbar in FlopSwap what do we think?

you mean the x% (xxMB of total swap MB) ?

Very useful, thanks for the fun program.

Suggestions statusbar:

-option to set auto update interval for status bar
-make buttons smaller compared to status bar (especially move to device, we don't want to push this accidentally wearing our precious eMMC.
-make font / bar larger so it can be more easily read from minimized status amongst many open programs
-colored font: green < 50 % / orange / red > 85% ?
edit:
-maybe just add the latest "show current" information to the status bar SD Swap1 or SD Swap 2 or Device.

sixwheeledbeast 2014-10-29 22:47

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1444124)
-option to set auto update interval for status bar

It this really useful?
I mean the auto-update at boot should be enough, I wouldn't want something using CPU in the background, otherwise I would look at having a daemon instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1444124)
-make buttons smaller compared to status bar (especially move to device, we don't want to push this accidentally wearing our precious eMMC.
-make font / bar larger so it can be more easily read from minimized status amongst many open programs

This is easily possible, I will look into it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1444124)
-colored font: green < 50 % / orange / red > 85% ?

This was my original idea but I wanted to see how the statusbar worked without colours first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1444124)
-maybe just add the latest "show current" information to the status bar SD Swap1 or SD Swap 2 or Device.

This maybe possible, at the moment they are separate scripts. I maybe able to have another statusbar below with this on. However, the show current button grabs the "cat /proc/swaps" information live, whereas a statusbar may have to be refreshed.

chill 2014-10-30 03:28

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1444067)
So here is what works for my user case:

What's your swappiness setting?

ste-phan 2014-10-30 09:34

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chill (Post 1445099)
What's your swappiness setting?

Via the program Swappolube: proposed settings.

This was written as comment under the movie on Vimeo but I guess when embedded it doesn't show the comment under the movie.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1445079)
It this really useful?
I mean the auto-update at boot should be enough, I wouldn't want something using CPU in the background, otherwise I would look at having a daemon instead.

Of course I don't like stuff running in the background either, but some people may prefer cool tuning information being displayed instead of reserving every possible resource for actual "productivity multitasking" :)

Thanks for the good program, using it for over a week now, seems only 512MB swap space works well enough for me.

sixwheeledbeast 2014-10-30 11:27

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1445117)
Thanks for the good program, using it for over a week now, seems only 512MB swap space works well enough for me.

I would suggest having a play with your swapiness settings instead of making your swap spaces smaller.

ste-phan 2014-10-30 12:52

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1445135)
I would suggest having a play with your swapiness settings instead of making your swap spaces smaller.

Thank you, will try that later, but for the time being I am curious in finding out what happens when I shrink the swap space when other parameters remain same.

On the large swap end things are more in need of adjustment:

do you have any advice on how to adjust swapiness to the device semi-freezing experienced with 1,5 - 3GB SWAP sizes after leaving a lot of applications open for a while?

I am interested to achieve the same smoothness like with small swap space (500-800MB) without haveing to worry of ever running out of RAM + SWAP memory.

peterleinchen 2014-10-30 21:58

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Snappiness is not only about swappiness.

I accidentally used swappolube to go even below the 30 swappiness value (which seems better) but hereby forgot to activate the other parameters which were then not set/changed on boot. And device was not usable at all! (to the extent that I restored a backup as I did not know what was going on :().
There is a thread and settings floating around, best ones from vi_, freemangordon or Estel

sixwheeledbeast 2014-11-07 12:31

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
Flopswap 0.2.1 uploaded to extras-devel

* New Layout

Let me know what you think

marmistrz 2014-11-08 20:52

Re: [Announce][Fremantle] FlopSwap - Swap GUI Management
 
What about a possible asking for confirmation when moving to device and a visual progress bar for the used swap?

Thanks for your work!


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