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Texrat 2007-08-15 18:39

Re: Is everybody dumber than me?
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 68684)
Michaelandjones is entitled to choose his own incentive, and criticizing him for choosing an incentive different from yours (spoken in a general sense) is both pointless and -- to stay on topic for the thread -- dumb.

You completely mischaracterized what I posted and I find that offensive.

I'd appreciate it much, Karel, if you would not do that. It's totally uncalled for.

Karel Jansens 2007-08-15 19:34

Re: Is everybody dumber than me?
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 68732)
You completely mischaracterized what I posted and I find that offensive.

I'd appreciate it much, Karel, if you would not do that. It's totally uncalled for.

And you obviously misread what I wrote; I specifically mentioned there was no shoe and yet you complain it fits...

penguinbait 2007-08-15 19:45

Re: Is everybody dumber than me?
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 68732)
You completely mischaracterized what I posted and I find that offensive.

I'd appreciate it much, Karel, if you would not do that. It's totally uncalled for.

What is that I hear??


A pot, calling a kettle black!!

As I write this old saying, I start to wonder if it is politcally correct? Not sure, but it sure seems to fit where I am using it!!

Texrat 2007-08-15 20:17

Re: Is everybody dumber than me?
 
Penguin, I have never done that to you. In fact, ironically, it has been the other way around. So, no, it doesn't fit at all. But I was hoping we were past that. (sigh)

Karel, surely you jest. I won't make a federal case of it, but you specifically quoted my post and then proceeded to act as if I had criticized the other gentleman's post, which I most assuredly did not. Granted, you say you are generalizing, but then why state that after quoting me?

A little intellectual honesty goes a long way.

Karel Jansens 2007-08-15 20:32

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 68770)
Penguin, I have never done that to you. In fact, ironically, it has been the other way around. So, no, it doesn't fit at all. But I was hoping we were past that. (sigh)

Karel, surely you jest. I won't make a federal case of it, but you specifically quoted my post and then proceeded to act as if I had criticized the other gentleman's post, which I most assuredly did not. Granted, you say you are generalizing, but then why state that after quoting me?

Because that was more convenient.
Because you appeared to hop on the support-bandwagon for zerojay's stupid remark.
Because I'm not accustomed to using "one's".
Because I'm an Evil Person.
Take your pick.

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A little intellectual honesty goes a long way.
Nah. Don't think so. Just look at Al Gore...

Karel Jansens 2007-08-15 20:33

Re: Is everybody dumber than me?
 
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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 68762)
What is that I hear??


A pot, calling a kettle black!!

As I write this old saying, I start to wonder if it is politcally correct? Not sure, but it sure seems to fit where I am using it!!

I resent being called a kettle!
In fact, I'm renowned for not even retaining water.

:D

Texrat 2007-08-15 20:42

Re: Is everybody dumber than me?
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 68772)
Because that was more convenient.
Because you appeared to hop on the support-bandwagon for zerojay's stupid remark.
Because I'm not accustomed to using "one's".
Because I'm an Evil Person.
Take your pick.

I hopped on no bandwagon. Zerojay has his post, and I have mine, and never the twain did meet. And you were saying about misunderstanding...?

trevarthan 2007-08-15 20:42

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Originally Posted by tabletrat (Post 68714)
I program for pleasure (which is disturbing as I do it for a living).

Same here. I suppose the selfish part of me starts a project for personal reasons like "Man, I wish I could do X". But then I carry on with it just because it's good fun.

I don't mind having some proprietary pieces in the OS. My app for example, Kagu, could easily be made to run on any OS with a touch screen. It wouldn't even have to be Linux. So I'm not really wasting my time if maemo goes away.

What I don't appreciate is being kept out of the Chat, Voice, and Mail APIs. Where's our IRC module for the Chat app? Where's our hooks to make pidgin the default Chat client? And Sylpheed the default Mail client? Why does Canola continue to undermine my work by making new completely proprietary releases?

Canola is a huge de-motivator for me.

And what is with Nokia's refusal to make OSS applications the default? Why are they compelled to reinvent the wheel? I just don't understand their game plan.

Texrat 2007-08-15 20:50

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Originally Posted by trevarthan (Post 68776)
And what is with Nokia's refusal to make OSS applications the default? Why are they compelled to reinvent the wheel? I just don't understand their game plan.

It wasn't exactly a refusal. Many decisions were made for the sake of expediency, especially in areas where there were no OSS options (such as highly specific hardware support). Nokia is very committed to expanding the openness, but this is no light task. Hopefully many developers will be pleased with what's on the way.

Ald 2007-08-15 20:52

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Where's our IRC module for the Chat app?
Sorry, this is the only one that I can address, and I may be completely off the mark here, but shouldn't it be (isn't it?) as simple as creating another Telepathy plugin? Or even porting Idle, the current IRC module for Telepathy? Or are there additional extensions Nokia added to Telepathy that would make this not a viable option?


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