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szopin 2013-01-04 20:18

Bing winning??? lol
 
Try 'N900 battery (allegro - highest ebay-like site for Poland and few other eastern european markets)', google gives wiki (of course), TMO, some pictures, none actually regarding battery, second bing result BL-5J... FFS, google stop selling your results, start giving relevant results. Anyways, future seems interesting when simplest searches start to give best results outside of google

sixwheeledbeast 2013-01-04 20:22

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
start using duckduckgo.
Google and youtube do my head in with all the tracking rubbish.

http://duckduckgo.com

szopin 2013-01-04 20:27

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Yeah, but on normal usage: N900 battery, ******** unrelated wiki sites, great, lets look for sellers for more detail: N900 battery allegro, still no info in first page results in google vs bing second result, ffs, when did google get so money hungry to push all their sponsored sites at top (which are usually unrelated ****), times are a changing

szopin 2013-01-04 20:28

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
and btw ddg is using Google results, so their astroturfing of payers is still in the results, no? Anonymity is just part of what is wrong with goog

sixwheeledbeast 2013-01-04 20:39

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1311003)
and btw ddg is using Google results, so their astroturfing of payers is still in the results, no? Anonymity is just part of what is wrong with goog

They do use google for some results like images and shopping etc
Hopefully this will change as DDG grows.

I also use Adblock which blocks most of the rubbish at the top of google searches anyway.

szopin 2013-01-04 21:07

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1311006)
They do use google for some results like images and shopping etc
Hopefully this will change as DDG grows.

I also use Adblock which blocks most of the rubbish at the top of google searches anyway.

I'm afraid for most, but not afraid really. As soon as better 'search' (can we still call it 'search' when they push so much advertised content) gives 2-3 times a curious user worse results than their competitors do... I will definitely move to binging it if another slipup occurs, probably most users won't, but with firefox making bing default and techies learning gradually how their love is in fact pushing down content for ads... Collapse will take everyone by surprise (add to it ISPs that can critically hurt google when GOOF is trying to force their monopoly on them: (btw MS still needs to learn a lot, instead of treating google failures decently, they should act on making them more viewable as google does (every tried to google google video app that let you download from its services, it never left beta but is now one of hardest things to google), bing treats this as a normal article, though hard to find in first page google results, trick results to trick reality google adopted long ago):
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/3/383...modems-freebox

Few more major ISPs following and google's revenue model collapse is expected (that or AdBlock+ adoption, expect unrequested features in chrome and disappearing from search results or else). Poor droid users, they will see a rise of advertising to fill that hole

stickymick 2013-01-05 00:10

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Thanks for the inspiration guys :)

I just changed the default search engine in MicroB to duckduckgo.

ranbaxy 2013-01-05 05:07

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1311000)
start using duckduckgo.
Google and youtube do my head in with all the tracking rubbish.

http://duckduckgo.com

+1. I've been using dudckduckgo for months now.

mr_pingu 2013-01-05 07:28

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Stickymick, tell me how to do that. I searched for a solution since we dont have a meamomized google anymore and the full page is slow, IMO

sixwheeledbeast 2013-01-05 08:34

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Shame you can't change Opera's default search engine, I was trying to do this a while ago.

@mr_pingu - it's like firefox.

"about:config" and filter for "search"
IIRC it's the value "keyword.URL"

stickymick 2013-01-05 10:30

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Yep, that's the one Sixwheeledbeast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1311081)
Stickymick, tell me how to do that. I searched for a solution since we dont have a meamomized google anymore and the full page is slow, IMO

Go to duckduckgo.com on your N900 (you'll need to use "Hide Useragent" or you may get a weird looking mess or thrown to a mobile page)

Once on dickduckgo there will be a small box hovering over the search field saying "Add to browser". Click "More ways to add DDG" and follow the guide titled "Manually setting DuckDuckGo as the default search for your Firefox address bar:"

If you get it right you should go to DDG whenever you type a search query into the address bar.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-01-05 10:42

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1311108)
Once on dickduckgo there will be a small box hovering over the search field saying "Add to browser". Click "More ways to add DDG" and follow the guide titled "Manually setting DuckDuckGo as the default search for your Firefox address bar:"

DDG Help acticle for Firefox.
http://qrfree.kaywa.com/?s=8&d=http%..." alt="QRCode"

:D

Also it's worth noting you can setup all your setting and preferences and save them in the URL bar.
This way if the cookies are destroyed you don't have to keep going to settings.

I use the following URL

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=&kl=uk-en&...=s&k4=-1&k1=-1

This is UK searches, https if possible, safe search off, non floating search bar, orange colour, no sideboxes, super-wide, large font, etc, etc.

To-do this go to duckduckgo.com/settings
Setup your settings then select "Bookmarklet and settings data" your custom URL will be there.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-01-05 21:47

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
The other great thing with DDG is the bangs.

If you set your default search engine as DDG you can type short commands in the URL bar and jump straight there.
They all start with a "!" (bang)

!yt - youtube
!w - wikipedia
!e - ebay.com

To see them all check out
http://duckduckgo.com/bang

pichlo 2013-12-12 15:44

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
I've just changed my search provider to DDG using the about:config method.

It works fine except:
1. I had to killall browser to make the change apply;
2. The search pop-up still says Google search even though it uses DDG.

How do I fix #2?

switch-hitter 2013-12-12 20:48

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Another cool private search engine is startpage, it has a cool 'view by proxy' feature so even the links you visit can't pick up your IP address.

paolo_3_1415926 2015-01-31 20:22

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1395586)
I've just changed my search provider to DDG using the about:config method.

It works fine except:
1. I had to killall browser to make the change apply;
2. The search pop-up still says Google search even though it uses DDG.

How do I fix #2?

At the risk of being accused of thread necromancy, I'll give you an answer to #2 ;)

Contrary to what one might expect, the "Google Search:" string is not related to any of microb's configurations data and it is not easily configurable. Instead, it is an hardcoded string inside the browser itself; what makes the situation worst is that the browser strings are available for each supported locale, meaning that for each locale that you care about you would have to make an adjustment.

In short, the things needed to change the string to whatever you wish are:
1) write down the locale you are using
2) open a root shell to the N900 (ssh recommended)
3) navigate to /usr/share/locale/<your locale here>/LC_MESSAGES
4) make a backup copy of osso-browser-ui.mo
5) hexedit osso-browser-ui.mo making sure that the file format's structure is respected

The file format in question is the 'Machine Object' file format, which is thankfully very simple. The specification is available here.

Result in action here.

Wikiwide 2015-01-31 20:43

Re: Bing winning??? lol
 
"Google Search:" is 14 characters, same as "DuckDuckGoing:". That's the way I preserve structure of such strange files: I edit only "normal" text, not strange symbols, and I preserve length of normal text as it was. Thank you for file-format-name and link to specification. :-)

About the icon to the left of the words: it is inside icon theme.
/usr/share/icons/<theme>/48x48/browser_search.png

I put DuckDuckGo icon here, too ;-)

Thank you! Best wishes.
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