[SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

I have an issue. My applicationsmemory is running low without any specific reason. When i tried to delete files like mms, it said permission denied.what its the solution? How can i get back my applications memory? It its 2.0 Gb out of 2.1, Therefore i cannot see mms And get a warning message about memory running low.pls help.thank you.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Remove some of installed applications first with:
You can see list of installed packages and their names with:
(l as in list)

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Thanks ladoga,
my problem acually is that it seems that many mms I received is filled up the applications memory, somehow if i receive an mms, it is stored on the same place what is used by application memory. when i try to delete mms, or other non used content, it says permission denied. is there a solution to delete these space consuming not used files?
thanks

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

I have myExplorer and I would like to delete the content of the following section:
/home/user/.mms/msg

Thank you if you can help.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Just open terminal and type:
Do the above as regular user not as root (devel-su)!

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

dpkg and apt get are for installed packages, aren't they? what is the command for force deleting files,:confused:

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Um, thedead1440 just posted it.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Well, thanks Guys so far this does not help, it gives a message that permission is denied and directory not empty.

What would help on my problem, I don't have many apps, the application memory is 2-0 gb, where 1.9 is other applications - for me completly unknown. I had nitdroid installed before which I uninstalled.
Any ideas for the solution is very much welcome.
Thanks.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Ok, I probably understood you wrong. (I though that application memory being filled somehow prevented you from removing the messages)

Have you tried to delete MMS through the message UI? Just long pressing on message and choosing delete all? Problem with deleting them from the command line is due to ~/.mms having a subdirectory owned by aegisfs so you'd probably need opensh/aridne/openmode to remove it.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

I tried this and deleted as many messages as i coulod. However surprisingly it still does not stop the problem of having 2.0 gb application data out of 2.1 gb. All the current applications take 0.1 gb, and so called "Other Applications" take 1.9 gb. What can be the problem? What should I do to get back this memory? Thank You.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Sorry, it is actually "Other installations" 1.9 gb within Application data. Thats what taking space. I have nitdroid installed before which I deinstalled a few months ago. Anything to do with that maybe?

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Emails?

Check the size of /home/user/.qmf via terminal and nitdroid should be in /home/nitdroid ; if you are not using it remove it too

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Wow!! I deleted the .qmf folder and now other applications are only 920.1 MB.ry much!! It seems that this solved some of the problem, I think I will do it regularly.
Thank you!
However when I try to delete /home/nitdroid, I get a Privilege denied warning message.
What else can take space?
Cheers so far, I'm really grateful!! :)

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

No probs, that folder is where your emails are stored so I don't think you want to delete it regularly instead set your emails to download headers only instead of "full messages & attachments". This way only important messages which you want to read etc have full content downloaded.

Are you root (devel-su) to delete /home/nitdroid?

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

OK. I open My Explorer and go to System volume (/), than go to home , mark nitdroid, i do a longpress and select delete. Here I got the message that Unable to delete '/home/nitdroid/': Privilege denied. What is the command to delete from terminal? I go devel-su, and rootme. What is after?

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

(-f=force -r=recursive, try rm --help for more info)

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Well, I tried ands it says cant' remove file, directory not empty.
But I managed to delete an empty folder with this command. Where can i find more commands like this?
Ladoga, you helped me a lot, cheers Mate!

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

use it as root, i mean..

first get root access by following these command:
devel-su
password is 'rootme' until u have changed it.

then the command mentioned above and you are done.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Yes, this is what I do exactly, but still privilege denied...

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Do the following:

If it still doesn't remove it then use opensh/ariadnesh

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Tried them, any i got the answer:
rm: can't remove '/home/nitdroid':Directory not empty.

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Well, I typed, opensh, I got the message that it cannot be found. I'm not so experienced with this, so if you could give me a command with opensh/ariadnesh that would be great.
or if not, maybe I can live my life with that folder in there... :):)
cheers Guys!

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

You need to have inception to have ariadnesh; install inception first... Search for the thread with instructions ;)

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

Wow! I love it! i was able to do anything now, delete that flippin nitdroid file and so as well the rest of the messages.
Cool, thanks! Of course it is gotta be handled carefully, i understand.
What else can I do with ariadne, it looks really everything is open now, what shall i check out to improve?
Cheers! :)

Running out of application storage
 

Hello folks,
and yet another problem with my N9. It started to show a popup while ago, that I would run out of application storage, usually at some point after a reboot. No hickups so far, still have access to my messages and contacts, but I couldn't figure out what is taking up all that space.
I already deleted local backups from the phone, extracted my recorded phone calls, and the application-menu only refers me to "other" - no specific program.

I haven't oced the N9, I havent incepted it, or any of that stuff... any ideas there?

Re: Running out of application storage
 

You know you only have 4,2 GB space for applications on a N9 64GB?

Re: memory issue, permission denied
 

greenstorm,

Your issue sounds very familiar to the OP's issue; that is /home/user/.qmf which store your emails is most probably occupying a huge amount of space. Check out its size first...


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Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Why the heck is there on this open phone no workaround to that kind of an issue? I suppose that could very well be the eMails, I regularly get pdfs or other documents mailed, and I actually intend on keeping them on the n9.

This is the most open phone in the universe right now - and no option to extend the space emails can take up? Why do I bother to buy a 64gb phone then..

What path is it, that counts into the "application storage" ? Maybe its something else I stored in there?

edit:
checked the folder-size of the mail-folder in qmf - its 794.9M of mail.. not that much actually. Or is it? To me it isn't, but on the other hand my outlook-file on the laptop is around 2GB..

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

simply repartition and transfer some space from your emmc to userfs partition and you are done...

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Thanks a lot ! :) Would it be sufficient to copy everything off the device, repartition it and restore the contents of the partitions back on them? No real time to bother with flashing the device atm

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Indeed; you can do a re-partition before getting your things out but its always good to have a back up in place ;)

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

And how to do that? I mean re-partition without needing to back the data up?

As far as I understood from some quick googling, the partition-table isn't structured the way that I can snip 4GB off MyDocs and add it to /home/ ? Or am I mistaken?

Hopefully I'll be able to fiddle with all that tonight. I do need to do that from a natively installed Linux-box, correct? VM won't suffice? (no problem though, I have an old laptop around)

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Yup get a Linux native machine ;)

I haven't done partitioning in around a year so really can't remember how I had changed the structure but I think simply using gparted should be enough. Although you may want to follow the instructions you got from your search as mine is a very sketchy re-collection of my own experience.

Lastly, best is to have a back up in case anything goes wrong :)

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Nothing went wrong, great success. First it shocked me with the warning, that I had modified the device software, making the warranty permanently... etc.

But then..

Booted fine, checked the system-entry on available storage - saw what I wanted to see.

But I wonder - why did I have to do that within Linux? Nothing I did was exclusive to linux. Flasher is also available for Windows, so are partitioning-tools, capable of R/W ext4.

Do I now always get that warning before boot?

edit: lemme guess:
disclaimer-cal remove View-openmode ?

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Well you are now in open mode; the instructions you read must have told you to disable the warning before doing the partitioning as now you can't disable it till you flash your device :(

Also those who wrote the instructions must not be using Windows hence they must not be wanting to give instructions that may not work for everyone...

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

No, they didn't, but that doesn't matter. I can live with that notification. What I cannot live with however is the quite annoying fact, that I have to re-enter all my account-data every time I reboot the device. And that facebook & twitter don't update the feed anymore (already deleted fb & twitter-accounts and re-added them. No difference.)

Does flashing (or reinstalling the OS - wait, can I do one thing apart from the other?) mean I have to do that partitioning-thing again? :D What wouldn't matter, since I have a) the Backup of most files and b) it probably won't take as long, when the partitions are empty.. a bigger problem would be loosing my calendar-entries etc - which are probably not backed up properly, since they are in hidden folders, which ubuntu didn't see. And therefore probably didn't back up.

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Welcome to open mode; things may seem difficult at first but they make your life much easier wrt aegis in the long run ;)

To solve the passwords issue we need to delete ALL accounts on the device so that new accounts can be made for which the passwords would be remembered.

To delete the accounts in terminal you can type:

The above removes the 3 directories responsible for the accounts + passwords.

For your calendar entries they are in a database iirc in /home/user/.cache/tracker/meta.db

You may want to extract them from there and import them later on or simply re-use the meta.db. Note I'm not too sure of this step so proceed with care; I would advice to sync your calendar entries to get them out of the device first.

If you can reflash its best you do a full reflash (rootfs+emmc) then enable developer mode, disable the warning and to flash open mode use the kernel from here and re-partition your device.

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

Great. :D So much for "I currently have no time to xyz" // Will do so tonight - for now I will head off to the library, without the N9. Thank you for taking care of me and introducing me to all that stuff btw. I did spend much more time on the trusty N900, but now I am quite busy and not really been up to exploring the full capability of the N9. That obviously just changed through my problem.

//

Just did a recheck on the ubuntu I used, indeed didn't copy the .xyz-Files. Including .qmf and .cache and so on. Which are the important parts for me.

I just mounted the N9 through the flasher-tool with the same commands as in ubuntu, but withing Windows, and am using ext2explore to etract the data from the N9 (again.) But now fully, already checked. So whatever file I might need afterwards, I will have it ready.

Does the N9 delete all the eMails and stuff when I delete the accounts? That would be quite annoying.

And with synching - what to sync with? I don't use google, do not have any other cal-dav-server available atm and Nokia Suite + Outlook.. well.. its a mess.

So, next steps for tonight:
Reflash the device, re-enable dev-mode, disable the warning via some command, enable open-mode through flashing the kernel from "there" on the device, then recreate all the accounts, and then insert the "old" meta.db and .qmf-files. Righty?

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

When resetting the accounts old emails are removed from display but still in the .qmf folder but that's not of much use since they are removed.

You can try hotmail in mail for exchange; it syncs calendar just fine but i don't know if it syncs past entries. Maybe search if there is a way for the calendar entries; there was a way to extract notes from the notes app so since both use a database i'm sure there is a way to extract calendar entries too. I don't remember it well otherwise would point you to it :(

Your procedure is right. For removing the warning after enabling developer mode you need to type in terminal "disclaimer-cal remove View-openmode" then flash the openmode kernel and you are done :)

Re: [SOLVED] Application data storage full with "Other" being the culprit
 

I am getting an mmc-partition-table mismatch. What next?

edit: Just found your old thread on that problem. reading it now =)

edit#2: As far as I understand it, I need to restore the partitions to the old size. Since I resized all three of them, I need the info (start - stop) for all three, not just MyDocs and the sdg3..