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NokiaFanatic 2013-03-25 14:16

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1331607)
Meltemi? :D
EDIT : oh how can I be *still* so naive...it will be Android, of course :/

Meltemi was killed.

Nokia are contractually forbidden from working on Android.

NokiaFanatic 2013-03-25 14:35

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard (Post 1331661)
I very much doubt Nokia will be developing a totally new OS, simply too expensive.

EDIT: or it could be based on the OS developed by smarterphone

You got it.

The team that Elop acquired over a year ago are still working in a silo away from the Nokia bureaucracy on SmarterphoneOS (of course, it will be re-branded when Nokia come to release it). The OS is intended to completely replace S40 which isn't fit for purpose anymore (Nokia know Asha sales will take a pasting as Android/WP get cheaper and cheaper). Like Blackberry 10, the aim of this device is to get very tight social networking integration (i.e. the unified notification center) with a much more fluid UI (S40 like Symbian was just never designed to work with touch devices). Like the Asha series, the device will occupy the price point between Series 30 phones (~$20) and Windows Phones ($150+) and will continue to be marketed at developing markets. I believe that the plan is to unveil a device running this OS at Nokia World 2013 this September.

Elop isn't a complete fool. He knows that the creaky Series 40 OS is on its last legs and that developing market consumers will just move to cheap Android phones if nothing is done. Windows Phone is not an option for Nokia. A licence for the OS is $25 alone and WP just won't scale to a lower-end device anyway. The only option for Nokia is SmarterphoneOS (or whatever Nokia will end up calling it).

All will come clear during Nokia World 2013.

Bernard 2013-03-25 16:45

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
If Nokia also replaces series 40 in some ways that would be an end of an era: All the internally developed OS-es since 1999 would have been killed except series 30 on the cheapest phones they make.
According to the wikipedia page Smarterphone can still use Java, so I assume at least some of the series 40 java programmers can still work on smarterphone applications.

Will be interesting.

tortoisedoc 2013-03-25 17:32

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1331694)
You got it.

The team that Elop acquired over a year ago are still working in a silo away from the Nokia bureaucracy on SmarterphoneOS (of course, it will be re-branded when Nokia come to release it). The OS is intended to completely replace S40 which isn't fit for purpose anymore (Nokia know Asha sales will take a pasting as Android/WP get cheaper and cheaper). Like Blackberry 10, the aim of this device is to get very tight social networking integration (i.e. the unified notification center) with a much more fluid UI (S40 like Symbian was just never designed to work with touch devices). Like the Asha series, the device will occupy the price point between Series 30 phones (~$20) and Windows Phones ($150+) and will continue to be marketed at developing markets. I believe that the plan is to unveil a device running this OS at Nokia World 2013 this September.

Elop isn't a complete fool. He knows that the creaky Series 40 OS is on its last legs and that developing market consumers will just move to cheap Android phones if nothing is done. Windows Phone is not an option for Nokia. A licence for the OS is $25 alone and WP just won't scale to a lower-end device anyway. The only option for Nokia is SmarterphoneOS (or whatever Nokia will end up calling it).

All will come clear during Nokia World 2013.

This does not make sense.
ALL of the features are available on harmattan already (unified social networks, smooth ui).
Why would they port yet another OS and invest the few money they still have?
Elop once again proves he is indeed what everyone thinks of him- an idiot, sorry.

NokiaFanatic 2013-03-25 19:42

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1331744)
This does not make sense.
ALL of the features are available on harmattan already (unified social networks, smooth ui).
Why would they port yet another OS and invest the few money they still have?
Elop once again proves he is indeed what everyone thinks of him- an idiot, sorry.

You're missing the point. Nokia want a stripped down, lightweight OS that can run on lower-end hardware.

dietyyli 2013-03-25 20:01

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1331689)

Nokia are contractually forbidden from working on Android.

Source for this?

Kangal 2013-03-26 07:41

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dietyyli (Post 1331796)
Source for this?

Source?
Elop. 'nuff said

tortoisedoc 2013-03-26 07:57

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1331787)
You're missing the point. Nokia want a stripped down, lightweight OS that can run on lower-end hardware.


Ok so I conclude stripping down harmattan is not an option in this case...

Artyom 2013-03-26 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1331787)
You're missing the point. Nokia want a stripped down, lightweight OS that can run on lower-end hardware.

Wasn't that going to be meltemi which was destroyed?

ranbaxy 2013-03-26 08:06

Re: Nokia Asha line going towards Swipe UI?
 
Nothing is going to happen. Nokia will stick to WP till their last production unit is closed and they sell out all their patents.


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