Radio Live Streams in wma or ra: working links?
 

HI, I thought I know my way around livestreams, but after days of fiddling around, I have to ask: how do you play back livestreams? shoutcast respective m3u is playing fine, but RA or WMA gives me headaches...

i found no alternative to the standard n800 Media Player so far, and this app is really mysterious: it does not even show me the URLs of the links which are preconficured (BBC1). I figured out they are pointing to the Real Audio stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/realaudio/media/r1live.ram

the normal way for livestreams is to popup a new window with the player plugin (WMA or RA), but of course those links do not work as we have no WMA plugin. If you can find the direct link to the stream, it also does not play back.

so how do you link to lwma or ra livestreams, or which app do you use, e.g. for a mms link like this: mms://stream4.orf.at/oe1-wort
or another BBC link, the one to BBC 1EXTRA???

thanks for any input,
karl.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

Under the talk section, I found 10 or so that are good, programs I like to listen to . I had to go through 100 or so to find them, most are not compatible with the N800, usually 'cause you have to run an applet or windows media player. Haven't gone through the other catagories yet.
http://streamingradioguide.com/

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

The few I've found actually had an alternate MP3 link under where the player applet is supposed to be in the web page, or had a link I could manually copy when I clicked on the Help links for the player appler, and like craigy I had to search quite a bit to find those. It's really a crap shoot and you end up hitting an annoying number of "Listen Now" links to find the right ones.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

I have been looking for a Galaxy Yorkshire link but haven't found anyway yet. If anyone does find away let me know asap.

Re: Radio Live Streams: PROTOCOLS
 

thank you all for your experiences, matches my own very closely....
I want to take the discussion from single links (there are thousands, we now that..) to the question which DELIVERY mechanisms the N800 can handle, as I know it there are the followong protocols:
UDP - TCP - HTTP - Mutlicast

and the followong prefixes for those streams:
mms:// - rtsp:// - http://

so the problem are not the audio formats (wma, ra or mp3) but the protocols.
after some testing I am quite sure that ONLY HTTP:// links work on the N800.

As this seems to be more of an application issue than a primary N800 question, does anyone know of an application that can handle mms and/or rtsp????

thanks for any input or corrections,
karl.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

Your best bet is to use mplayer since it has support for far more CODECs then nokia's built in player. Unfortunately it's not a simple click and go thing. First you need to find the URL of the stream, then from an xterm window you would type:

mplayer -vo null -cache 256 -playlist [URL]

other then that though it works great for a playing a number of streams in various formats including WMA.

As for finding the URL of streams, I found a great little app from Roku that I use with my soundbridge (but not necessary) that helps identify URL streams.

http://www.rokulabs.com/support_sb_dwnld_radiosnoop.php

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How do you get an xterm in nokia n800?

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

You install xterm like any other program. If you click on Software at the top here, then Fetch the keyword xterm, you should be able to install from there. It's in the System category of programs.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

bac522,
I have Mplayer installed, but can not really nake it work properly:
the menu bar shows me "GMPLauncher", there is one line to open a file, but no menu, no tools, empty.
AM I missing something with MPlayer?

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

No, you need to run the command I listed earlier from an xterm shell window. GMPLauncher is basically just a GUI frontend to mplayer that would show movie files (if you had any) installed on your IT. The GUI frontend isn't meant to access internet streams, which is the reason why you need to run it from a command line if you want to listen to internet streams.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

bac522,
you,r a genious! mplayer via xterm plays mms and rtsp links!
i wrote some xterm command lines with links in maemopad+ now so ican paste those into xterm on the fly.
thanks again, karl.

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Thanks for the compliment, glad it works for you. This was something I learn from being HTPC buff which my HTPC is based on linux, so when mplayer got ported over to the IT I discovered that you could play Internet streams the exact same way.

I wondering if there is a way to configure opera so that it just calls mplayer instead of nokia's player for any internet stream...hhhhhmmmmm...have to look into that one further.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

YES, PLEASE! Calling of applications upon type by the Browser should be configurable, somwhere... In windows I would find the quickly, but I am not into Linux at all, sorry...
Another thought: there are some GUIS and SKINS for Mplayer, are those also ported to IT or do we have to rebuild the Mplayer install file with the GUI included?

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

audioworld & bac522,

I've tried the xtrem/mplayer method on two stations, one is a mms stream and the other is a rm stream, using the suggested command in osso-xterm. I couldn't get either of them to work.

For the first stream (mplayer -vo null -cache 256 -playlist rtsp://mrbi.live79.com/kmrb), I received the following error message: STREAM_LIVE555, URL: rtsp://mrbi.live79.com/kmrb
Segmentation fault.

For the second stream (rtsp://rthk4.rthk.org.hk/redundant/radio1.rm), everything seems to work:
Connecting to server rthk4.rthk.org.hk[59.188.18.228]: 554...
Cache size to 256 KByts.

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

I can get mplayer to play an RTSP, but I am wondering what friendly front end there might be... for example, I've been creating m3u's with shotucast streams that the built-in audio player will play. but, it won't do .ram files... .e.g

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,BBC News
#http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/me...5min_au_nb.ram
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/worldservice/summary5min.ra?BBC-UID=b457b5c4d9539f8eece6484df0402a69a6baca8db08020 639bda7f3d8c267cdd_n&SS

if I feed the rtsp to mplayer using the command line, it will play, but built-in won't touch either of the above, kmplayer will read the .ram, find the rtsp but not play!

thanks for any ideas
Paul

Re: Radio Live Streams: working links?
 

WOW thanks for that !!!
Now I can finally listen to my favorite radio station again !!

THANKS!!!!!