Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Mark Dilllon should be CEO again. I mean, he is by far the most recognizable (important in the real world) and seems more energetic. I don't think most of my friends who are interested in Jolla even know they changed to Tomi...

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

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Well, I ordered in the first hour and I didn't get an invitation to buy :(

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Agree. Who is Tomi ;)


That's the type of thing that makes the release clouded.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Ive tweeted at them. Is it the 100 euro pre orders that are getting shipped on the 27th or does it include the 40euro and the 0euro even

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I remember both 100€ and 40€ preorders included the "1st in the queue" feature - one possibility is that Jolla has a sequence, they won't tell you which number you are in that sequence, and they will be offering those 450 precious devices to the first 450 individuals who preordered the options that had the "1st in the queue" feature.

Now, read between the lines: this doesn't necessarily mean that if you preordered in the first day (or hour!) [and your address is in one of the "supported" countries], you will get the device. If more than 450 preorders from supported countries have been made in the same day (or hour!), then there is a chance that you won't get it, even if preordered in the same day (or hour!).

Another possibility is that this is all BS and Jolla is just doing whatever. We won't know this, as we didn't get the sequence numbers in advance. Even if they gave them away now, there will still be the possibility that they were tampered with.

Sadly, there is no strong evidence of anything, except that there are a few folks who got the email, and probably others who don't read/post in TMO. At the end of the day, 450 is a very low number if they are certain they'll sell in the 100s of 1000s.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Am not fussed about the 450 devices tbh, just if 0 euro pre orders get shipped as a pre order

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A lot of talk about ordering in the first hour. I got the invitation from dna and if I remember correctly I ordered quite a few hours after the site went up (still first day).
It's a pity I have obligatory studying during the release :(

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

So it means they will start doing on-line shipping right away as well?

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450 is not a low number at all, if they all have to be crammed into the DNA store in Helsinki at the same time. :)

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They've given no information about the 0€ preorder. If you read the tweets/FAQ, they always say "those who preordered first" - I'm 99% certain that that's not the 0€ one.

It would be quite nice if Jolla could clarify this, but I bet that if they say "this launch doesn't include the 0€ preorders", we'll start getting super anxious about the date for those preorders, which they may not have.

So, I'm taking the patience pill, as the other option is freezing myself and ask somebody to defrost me when the device is out ;-)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

From that perspective, maybe, but I was talking about the grand scheme of things.

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Even 0 Euro option was preorder. It was no different information about the option. 100 40 and 0 should be tähandled the same way.

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No, there was a clear differentiation: first 2 were "1st" and the 0€ was "2nd". I have no idea what the second campaign promised in terms of queue priority.

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Yeah - mine was a 0€ pre-order - I ordered from outside the EU.

But I tweeted Jolla, asking if I could change my shipping address to an EU address, so that I can receive the Jolla phone for Christmas. They didn't say that there was anything wrong with that - just that I should mail care at jolla.com.

Now my Shipping Address is an EU one. :-)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

This is the DNA Store nearest to the location of the event on 27th:
http://www.kamppi.fi/yritys/dna-kauppa :D

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

It did, what? Where?

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Sadly, I can't find the page where the 3 options are available - when those were there, I remember seeing some priority to the 100 and 40 orders over the 0 orders.

Of course, you may not trust my memory (and you would be wise not to). Evidence rules.

Now, we can compare notes if you like - if you have a 100 or 40 preorder, have you got a sequence number? I've got a 0 order which doesn't.

The above makes sense as this: http://web.archive.org/web/201306091...ders/new?order[bundle_id]=2 said that you got a "Limited ed. Jolla preorder number" (whatever that means) and this: http://web.archive.org/web/201307071...ders/new?order[bundle_id]=4 doesn't include any preorder number or anything.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

There were no clear indication at the options or mail received telling users that 0 option was excluding from release date. 100 gave a TShirt+special other side. . 40 was removed(sold out LoL) and replaced with 100 and 0. 40 didn't make sense.

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Does anyone with a 100 or 40 preorder have a order queue number then?

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Just an order ID. It contains letters and numbers.

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I don't like unfair. Let's hope I don't need to start "we are jolla, we are un... fair" campaign. No reason yet.

I can ignore the fact of these 500 become most or all are first day preorder. But after that. Order...

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Absolutely not....
They always said* that those who pre-ordered with $ wouldn't be prioritised over those who didn't, it would be on a 1st come 1st serve basis.
All the $100 option did was entitle you to the: "limited edition" Other Half, T-shirt, & a down-payment towards final payment, the $40 (which was eventually dropped) just got you a shirt IIRC.
If they're changing it now I'd be rather annoyed, had they articulated this from the outset I would've dropped some $...

*Well, they may not have been saying it "lately"

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Also, some info here:http://www.jollatides.com/2013/06/05...ite-refreshed/

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Thank you - this is exactly what I remember and it used to be very clear in their website. It also makes sense that if you put cash you get priority over whoever didn't.

EDIT: thanks, Thoke, that was exactly what I was looking for. It isn't spelled out, but it is clear that the 0€ option does _not_ give you priority at all. You just join the movement and are notified etc etc.

EDIT2: clearly I misread you. Paying customers were always going to get a phone first, the rest were going to get updated with a dummy order or whatever. Happy to be convinced otherwise if Jolla clarifies or somebody has a tweet from JollaHQ.

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You will be among the first...

0 option.

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No, I remember it being asked multiple times & them confirming that there'd be no priority for those who laid down $, all such pre-orders were buying, is more-or-less what I outlined above.

That mentions nothing about $40/100 pre-orders getting priority in the pre-order queue numbering system...

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I got the invite and I have a €100 first round pre-order made during the first few minutes. I'm sure they pre-sold over 450 during the first hour.

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IMNSHO: "You will be among the first" != "Preorder Jolla"

This is a semantic trick: you are always among the first so long as somebody bought after you...

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It may also be that ltd. ed. Jollas are being produced first and due to that shipped first.

Yes, and at least I wasn't trying to argue anything. Just providing some info :)

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No matter who said this or not - it has to be nonsense, and if you'd think about it for just a moment you'd agree.

The €0-option was to "sign up, create an account, show your interest,..." - in short, give them your contact details.

They pointed everyone from outside the EU (+Norway/Switzerland) to the €0-option, knowing they might never ship to this one particular country the person came from.

On the other hand, they have pre-orders (already payed for) from markets they know they'll serve.

What do you expect? That they stick to a first come, first serve principle and let thousands of payed pre-orders collect dust only because "order" #4 was a €0-registration from the Republic of Nauru?

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

No. Just something called "Order number". The receipt contains the sentence:

That never happened.

(€100 pre-order here)

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Look at the image posted before. No distinction was made. It was a preorder as well as the 100 Euro.

But let's ask jolla before we go berserk!

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No, they were very clear what the payments were for, you can try to reason it all away now*, but they were 100% clear that they in no way, shape, or form prioritised you above others.

*& be a smart-arse while doing it

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

No distinction... except that two buttons are labeled "pre-order" while one is labeled "register".

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Too bad I can't find the very first preorder pictures anywhe, those with small pictures of the phone, T-shirt & priority status. At least that's what I remember.

EDIT: No, it depicted a VOUCHER, not a priority ticket. My bad :o

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You don't like reason, I know.


So in your world, a person signing up (without paying) from, say, Canada should get the phone before a EU-resident who payed for it. Even though they stated Canada is not on their list yet. Well. Interesting.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

thank you. There we go everybody thats not part of the 450 is in the same boat now(pun intened).

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this going to be fun, dave, can you remember were the epic tshirt thread is, I'm pretty sure there's some conclusive info in there if memory serves me correctly.

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Agree with benny... if you didn't pay, your best bet is to go to Helsinki or just wait. If you are a non-EU (excl Switzerland), YMMV as import laws apply.