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shmerl 2013-05-20 16:10

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Hariainm: Are there any other options? At least it's dual core. Better than N9.

soryuuha 2013-05-20 16:11

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyser (Post 1345245)
I don't see why people are complaining about the size. I measured the dimensions in the press release photos and it seems like it will be approximately 63x125.2mm, which is smaller then e.g. this other 4.5" smartphone: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...i8730-5271.php

touch to love..guess some people here trust their eyes too much :lol:

Dave999 2013-05-20 16:12

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1345247)
Hariainm: Are there any other options? At least it's dual core. Better than N9.

I think tizen device can be an option, and also Ubuntu. Lot's of great stuff can arrive in 6 months.

misterc 2013-05-20 16:16

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mahead (Post 1345233)
I don't get the voucher thing for pre-orders. Does that 100 e / 40 e mean, that you pay the given amount now, and rest when the phone comes out? So it's kind of partial payment with some added goodies.

Or, does it mean that you can get the phone pre-ordered with price 299 e price + all the added stuff? That sounds too cheap, so I guess the option #1 is the right one.


Quote:

Jolla Limited Edition + Other half
Pre-order a limited edition Jolla and an exclusive pre-order limited edition Other Half. Get your pre-order priority number. Play a role in the creation of upcoming campaigns and proudly wear a Jolla T-Shirt! Join us on this adventurous journey. You will get a voucher of 100€ that will be deducted from the price of your Jolla at the time of purchase. Voucher is valid until 06/2014 when you buy the phone from Jolla online store. Shipments will start in Europe. Available for a limited time only.
for €100 you get
  • t-shirt
  • right to an early customized device (pre-order priority number)
  • voucher worth a €100


Quote:

Jolla Limited Edition + t-shirt
Pre-order a limited edition Jolla. Get your pre-order priority number. Play a role in the creation of upcoming campaigns and proudly carry a Jolla T-Shirt! Join us on this adventurous journey. Available for a limited time only
for €40 you get
  • t-shirt
  • right to an early standard device (pre-order priority number)

shmerl 2013-05-20 16:17

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345249)
I think tizen device can be an option, and also Ubuntu. Lot's of great stuff can arrive in 6 months.

So far they are pure vaporware. Jolla at least has concrete hardware to show.

Dave999 2013-05-20 16:22

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1345253)
So far they are pure vaporware. Jolla at least has concrete hardware to show.

Agreed, But to say there is no alternatives are too fanboyish. There is always alternatives. And again, Lots of stuff can happen from now until jolla devices hits my hand

SaiKo 2013-05-20 16:23

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
“Countries supported for the Limited ed. Jolla + Other Half (100€) pre-order package at the time of opening May 20, 2013 include Finland, Sweden, Denmark, United Kingdom, Germany, Spain, France, and Italy. We’re opening further European countries very soon, stay tuned!

For Limited ed. Jolla + T-Shirt (40€) and 0€ pre-order packages we support global pre-ordering, and yet availability of the Jolla device will decided based on demand from each country solely in discretion of Jolla Ltd. For the 40€ package we’ll always ship the T-shirt to your selected global address.”

So if you’re not lucky enough to live in one of those 8 countries you can’t pre-order with the otherhalf, but you can pre-order the limited edition handset for 40€?
And if it turns out availability for your country never comes, you’ll have paid 40€ for just a t-shirt?

NokiaFanatic 2013-05-20 16:25

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1345246)
I'll pass. Sadly, because i was waiting for this device to be a real sucessor for us, all N9 fans, but, again, it's not interesting at all to me. It looks ugly, fat, big bezels, strange design, and customizable cases is NOT a crucial feature for NONE of us, don't care how much they advertise it. Again, it's not a device for me, which makes me sad, because i wanted it was :(

I don't like the bezels either, but I will tolerate them if it means the device gets proper support. The N9 was a disgrace in this regard.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1345246)
PD: But all still can change if they reveal a keyboard phone. A N950 for the masses, Hell! I want a N950 with updated internals!

There's lots of cryptic hints from Jolla about a keyboard. The fact that they are responding so positively and cryptically suggests to me that a keyboard is already in the works (if it hasn't already been created). If we don't show our support for this device (even with the caveat of there being a HWKB), then we're definitely not going to see anything.

You can pre-order with no money down you know. Write to them through mail or on Twitter to show your support for Jolla+Keyboard. You cannot be heard if you do not speak.

Kozzi 2013-05-20 16:28

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
The design is kind of disappointing, the device UI is developed upon swiping and one hand usage and yet it's corners are not rounded (same problem with N9). I must agree that the front look while device is powered looks kind of cheap due to big bezels. They should fix their promo pictures, kind of misleading.

mahead 2013-05-20 16:28

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1345251)
for €100 you get
  • t-shirt
  • right to a early customized device (pre-order priority number)
  • voucher worth a €100

Yeah, I have read that. But what's the "100 voucher"? I pay now 100 e and get it later deducted? Or I purchase when the phone comes out and get 100 e deducted then (so I pay only 299 e for promising to buy the phone for sure)? Or do I get some kind of gift card to Jolla shop?

Maybe it's just me, but for me "100 e voucher" among with other stuff sounds like I get something worth of 100 e, not for paying now 100 e. As I said, I'm confused. :)

Dave999 2013-05-20 16:28

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Please be quite the presentation is about the begin!

Hariainm 2013-05-20 16:29

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1345247)
Hariainm: Are there any other options? At least it's dual core. Better than N9.

Sure, but i need more than this to put the N9 in my desk drawer. I am saying if I have right now both devices, Jolla phone & N9, i'll still use the Harmattan device as main phone. I don't miss any functionality in it. Have Spotify, WhatsApp, Tweetian, CuteTube, a few games & emulators to waste my time, a very nice Maps application (that's a thing we can not say right now for the other half ;) at least not yet). To be honest i have pretty much all what I need (despite missing the Steam chat app android has, this is the only thing i miss).

Ask yourselves that question: Do you really thing the Jolla phone is a step forward or backward for you, N9 users? Will you carry it and thing "Yeah, this is it, that's what i wanted, this is way better than my previous N9 days".

So nothing will really improve if i switch to Jolla to only get a dual core phone. Heck, even S40 dumbphones have +1Ghz processors nowadays. I want to be amused, want to be astonished, want the desire the new phone, like on the N900 days, like with the N9, and the pictures, the hands on videos we are start seeing only put a MEH face on me.

bootoot 2013-05-20 16:30

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
live stream started already

NokiaFanatic 2013-05-20 16:31

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mahead (Post 1345261)
Yeah, I have read that. But what's the "100 voucher"? I pay now 100 e and get it later deducted? Or I purchase when the phone comes out and get 100 e deducted then (so I pay only 299 e for promising to buy the phone for sure)? Or do I get some kind of gift card to Jolla shop?

Maybe it's just me, but for me "100 e voucher" among with other stuff sounds like I get something worth of 100 e, not for paying now 100 e. As I said, I'm confused. :)

It's simple.

You pay €100 now, you get a t-shirt and a limited edition Other Half. Instead of paying €399 for the device, you will pay €299.

In essence, if you pre-order now, you get a free t-shirt, you will get the device first before others and you will get a limited edition back shell.

aironeous 2013-05-20 16:32

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
On the engadget video they just did Marc clearly says the screen resolution (and hence size) is not finalized but will be HD.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/20/j...hardware-tour/

Yes I don't like the huge bezels either but it is likely to shrink if they just get enough of us complaining about the huge bezel.

NokiaFanatic 2013-05-20 16:33

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
You wouldn't see people drinking beer at a Google or Microsfot launch :)

Hariainm 2013-05-20 16:34

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Offtopic: knobtviker twitter on Jolla livestream xD

rcolistete 2013-05-20 16:36

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1345178)
A new video posted on iltasanomat http://www.iltasanomat.fi/digi/art-1288566945106.html (in finnish)

At around 1min10s we see a 3D software animation which is updated even in the miniature of multi-tasking screen. Like Maemo 5 and MeeGo Harmattan.

Android, iOS, WP : go to the hell, dumbed down mobile OS ! :p

Rogatti 2013-05-20 16:40

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1345204)
Absolutely ugly, it's like a brick from the past..... no!, it's like two attached bricks!!

Can't be compared at all with the N9's beautiful design. Unfortunately, I guess that the OS won't ever be fully functional in the N9 (as it always happens when porting OSes across mobile devices).

I think the functionality embedded makes the desing valid.

Imagine the possibilities the wireless connection of the second half.

marcaurell 2013-05-20 16:42

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I am totally disappointed by Jolla, I’m waiting for months for this device, and then I have to learn that you do not deliver to Austria. Am I a second class customer because I live in Austria? Are my Euros worth less? I would have gegreut forward to the possibility of pre-and then the disillusionment no delivery to Austria, the country that lies in the middle of Europe. Ciao Ciao Jolla Sailfish I’m not a device I beg of you will continue to use my N9.

My dream would be an HTC one with sailfish. Jolla hardware device is very weak and in 6-7 months when it comes on the market it is totally outdated

Kozzi 2013-05-20 16:43

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"The other half could include a bigger flash light for better photoshooting at a club"

Well this is starting to sound like a better idea. How would it work? add another led/xenon, sync it with builtin flash light ..? Seems like the hardware is pretty much at final stage.

Dave999 2013-05-20 16:44

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
the best presentation ever :D I'm lucky I had a beer in the hand, otherwise I wouldn't understand a thing...

Boxeri 2013-05-20 16:45

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Finns just can't do good presentations. And saying this as a Finn. Everything looks good on the outside, but then usually someone with that unmistakable old people english accent comes and talks :-)

Really not that informative presentation, but I still believe in them strongly.

The Wizard of Huz 2013-05-20 16:45

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The presentation was unlike.

mariusmssj 2013-05-20 16:45

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345276)
the best presentation ever :D

you can make any back cover you want. Like he said even a keyboard :DDD

HtheB 2013-05-20 16:46

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Seriously...

Did we wait so long for this "presentation"?
Not only the 'unprofessional' technical issues, but also that we've already seen the things that they showed us on Jolla.com

Still no detailed specs.... (like screen resolution etc.) :mad:

Very dissapointed...

NokiaFanatic 2013-05-20 16:46

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxeri (Post 1345277)
Finns just can't do good presentations. And saying this as a Finn. Everything looks good on the outside, but then usually someone with that unmistakable old people english accent comes and talks :-)

Really not that informative presentation, but I still believe in them strongly.

Agree, that presentation was awful!

m4r0v3r 2013-05-20 16:46

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
is that it for the live stream? or do we actually get to see what the device is like?

vitaminj 2013-05-20 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marcaurell (Post 1345274)
...and then I have to learn that you do not deliver to Austria

I wouldn't discount them so soon - they say on the order page:

Quote:

Originally Posted by join.jolla.com
We’re opening further European countries very soon, stay tuned!


Hariainm 2013-05-20 16:47

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WAHT?


10char

[Knuckles] 2013-05-20 16:49

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Yeah, I have to agree: is that it?

I thought they left out some details from jolla.com because they were gonna announce something more, or some more details.

I was especially waiting for them to announce a qwerty half or something. My 100€ preorder would be out of my bank that second...
As it is, they made a great deal out of swappable colored backs, that so many phones had before. Yay?

Boxeri 2013-05-20 16:49

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marcaurell (Post 1345274)
I am totally disappointed by Jolla, I’m waiting for months for this device, and then I have to learn that you do not deliver to Austria. Am I a second class customer because I live in Austria? Are my Euros worth less? I would have gegreut forward to the possibility of pre-and then the disillusionment no delivery to Austria, the country that lies in the middle of Europe. Ciao Ciao Jolla Sailfish I’m not a device I beg of you will continue to use my N9.

My dream would be an HTC one with sailfish. Jolla hardware device is very weak and in 6-7 months when it comes on the market it is totally outdated

And then your mom didn't let you use her credit card and didn't give her permission to take the train to germany to get the phone.

Grow up man. You are indeed in the middle of Europe, it is not going to be difficult to get this phone. Think about others who actually life somewhere far and it will be difficult. Spoiled little child...

SaiKo 2013-05-20 16:50

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
livestream still going?
I can hear the head of customer support introduce someone from DNA, very silently...
No picture though.

tissot 2013-05-20 16:52

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Knuckles] (Post 1345285)
As it is, they made a great deal out of swappable colored backs, that so many phones had before. Yay?

No, there's a chip in that cover that supposedly could even make adding more memory and such possible, let alone larger batteries, better flash and so on.

That said those attachments don't exists yet and are up to Jolla or 3rd party to add.

Dave999 2013-05-20 16:53

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
In the teaser video they said everything should be revealed the 20th. Fraud!

Now, I know how the device looks like and the prize, but nothing more??

mariusmssj 2013-05-20 16:54

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345289)
In the teaser video they said everything should be revealed the 20th. Fraud!

Now, I know how the device looks like and the prize, but nothing more??

I think there will be further information on the news sites and all

Hariainm 2013-05-20 16:54

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Aaaaand let me loop this video and think everything is alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-jIyUhFzYk

tissot 2013-05-20 16:54

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1345289)
In the teaser video they said everything should be revealed the 20th. Fraud!

Now, I know how the device looks like and the prize, but nothing more??

When they said details would be revealed later on, they seemed to really mean that.

Agree, that stream was useless.

misterc 2013-05-20 16:54

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marcaurell (Post 1345274)
I am totally disappointed by Jolla, I’m waiting for months for this device, and then I have to learn that you do not deliver to Austria. Am I a second class customer because I live in Austria? Are my Euros worth less? I would have gegreut forward to the possibility of pre-and then the disillusionment no delivery to Austria, the country that lies in the middle of Europe. Ciao Ciao Jolla Sailfish I’m not a device I beg of you will continue to use my N9.

My dream would be an HTC one with sailfish. Jolla hardware device is very weak and in 6-7 months when it comes on the market it is totally outdated

you can't pre-order the "other half" whatever that will be
you can however order the t-shirt & pre-order a standard Jolla device, pretty much what Marc hold in his hand during the presentation.
or, within a year, you may be able to walk into a phone shop in Vienna & get a Jolla device with a contract.
or without, for € 399.-

Kozzi 2013-05-20 16:57

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1345291)
Aaaaand let me loop this video and think everything is alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-jIyUhFzYk

lol, yeah I expected wow from Jolla but didn't get it with the UI and now device design... Oh well I hope the specs is atleast on par with this generation.


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