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AMD	2013-11-22 20:13

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement

I still didn't get the e-mail... *fingers crossed*

Dave999

2013-11-22 20:18

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1388289)

I still didn't get the e-mail... *fingers crossed*

I think its europe only. IF you send me the money i will send you the phone.

AMD	2013-11-22 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388292)

I think its europe only. IF you send me the money i will send you the phone.

My address is changed to Europe, one of my friends will receive it then send it to me...

Dave999

2013-11-22 20:34

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1388296)

My address is changed to Europe, one of my friends will receive it then send it to me...

Then you should contact jollacare...

AMD	2013-11-22 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388297)

Then you should contact jollacare...

Contacted. Their reply was:

Quote:

Hello:
Your order ID (order number) determines the priority of your order – no separate priority number will be sent. Starting from 22 November 2013, we will contact all pre-booking customers from the EU, Norway and Switzerland in priority order with instructions on how to complete the purchase.
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care
Ystävällisin terveisin,
Jolla Asiakastuki
Join the Movement @ jolla.com
Like @ facebook.com/jollaofficial
Follow @ JollaHQ

Dave999

2013-11-22 20:42

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Ok, strange .What orderdate do have. I thought i ordered after you.

But Im advancing in queue every day IT seem. Im first very soon! :D

AMD	2013-11-22 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388299)

Ok, strange .What orderdate do have. I thought i ordered after you.

But Im advancing in queue every day IT seem. Im first very soon! :D

24.5.2013
On the 4th day...

Dave999

2013-11-22 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1388301)

24.5.2013
On the 4th day...

Ok i ordered 20 june so a month later.

AMD	2013-11-22 20:54

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I just got this reply as well

Quote:

Hello.
It means that assuming you have pre-booked the device - 100 EUR or 40 EUR - you will receive an invite to place your order on our webshop.
If you have not received said invite with login details by Monday or Tuesday of the coming week, we would ask that you get back in touch with us.
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care
Ystävällisin terveisin,
Jolla Asiakastuki
Join the Movement @ jolla.com
Like @ facebook.com/jollaofficial
Follow @ JollaHQ

xanderx

2013-11-22 21:13

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement

So, the "exclusive" Poppy Red other half won't be available to purchase for those outside the pre-order bunch? Woohoo, truly exceptional.

Dave999

2013-11-22 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xanderx (Post 1388313)

So, the "exclusive" Poppy Red other half won't be available to purchase for those outside the pre-order bunch? Woohoo, truly exceptional.

OFC IT Will but you can feel exclusive for a while when others running around With white :D

xanderx

2013-11-22 21:35

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Will "Floppy Red" be available as TOH colour for general public? The one S.Elop is surely buying as personalized Limited Edition Jolla.

m4r0v3r

2013-11-23 01:51

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ill be exclusive just having a jolla

seiichiro0185

2013-11-23 02:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388303)

Ok i ordered 20 june so a month later.

Well it seems they have seriouly f**ked up the queue order then if you already got the shop invite. I ordered on the first day (20.5.) and even was in the first round of invites to the launch party but didn't get the shop invite email yet...

_Routser

2013-11-23 03:04

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I ordered 23.5 and got the email that allowed me to pay the phone around 12pm, about five hours later I got an email that told me I would get the email that allows me to pay the phone soon :)

But I paid with PayPal and didn't receive any confirmation email from Jolla (as promised, I did get one from PayPal confirming my payment)

Anyone else experienced the same/anyone received the confirmation&tracking email from jolla after payment?

biatch0

2013-11-23 05:57

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I placed my order on the first day about 1-2 hours after launch from what I recall... the only email I've received is the one that says I'll receive ANOTHER email soon :P

Thoke

2013-11-23 07:11

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One tiny update in jolla.com, it says in the Operating System tab that "Frequent system updates are provided over-the-air. Usage of WLAN is recommended."

Also, there's return policy in the support section of jolla.com now.

Dave999

2013-11-23 07:42

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Anyone want to buy My jPhone?

Shipping within 3 to 4 weeks.

DeeGee

2013-11-23 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by _Routser (Post 1388361)

Quite many people have reported that PayPal paying hasn't worked. Finish banking payments seem to have worked fine, at least mine did.

Tujutzki

2013-11-23 09:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xanderx (Post 1388313)

So, the "exclusive" Poppy Red other half won't be available to purchase for those outside the pre-order bunch? Woohoo, truly exceptional.

The only thing we know about the exclusive TOH is the colour, it still might or might not contain something extra in sw or hw. I wouldn´t judge it before we see the whole package on 27th.

TMavica

2013-11-23 09:33

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anyone got Jolla device sell me in London?

Dave999

2013-11-23 10:20

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i have lost some of the exitment about jPhone. what to do to get it back...

ggabriel

2013-11-23 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1388238)

I honestly doubt that Jolla has any interest in cooperating with government agencies, but on the other side, sending a password by email, which is a service that in 99% of cases runs unencrypted in transit and for many users is delivered to a mailbox that resides on US soil is not too encouraging on the security profile.

A bit off topic and FWIW, mine came secured - most email I receive is secure (NB: port 25 can and cannot be secure). Any version of sendmail in the last few years on any relatively decent OS distribution comes configured to fail if a secured communication cannot be achieved.

If you provide an email address hosted in the US (or anywhere that you don't own for that matter) to Jolla, then it's your responsibility.

It is a shame that organisations more powerful than the individual don't provide with an alternative to webmail (e.g., why can't you have your own domain name and transfer that among ISP's like you do with phone numbers? building email and other services on top of that with current hardware is almost trivial).

Anyway, I digress, I don't think that Jolla is by any means using an unsecure communication policy by sending you a password on an email - banks send you PIN's on normal post, which is as insecure. I'd be happy receiving a password on an email that is transmitted using TLS/SSL, then I'd change the password as soon as I get the email. Eve won't have time to decrypt that message. Considering what that password gives you access to (i.e., buying a phone, not even your credit card details), then one could assume that the secuirty utilised is actually overkill for the potential hacker's gain.

ggabriel

2013-11-23 11:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388403)

i have lost some of the exitment about jPhone. what to do to get it back...

You only lost it because you know it's the weekend and that there is absolutely no chance that you'll hear anything from Jolla for the next under-48 hours. Have some rest, go for a run/walk/whatever. Drink some beer (responsibly) and you'll see your excitement back on Monday.

Thoke

2013-11-23 14:01

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https://account.jolla.com/oauth/oauth2/clients now has "create application" and "reset" buttons. Don't know if they were there before.

Mikkosssss

2013-11-23 14:02

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Been there for ages... :D

Dave999

2013-11-23 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1388417)

Go for a run - Check!

Quote:

Originally Posted by handyAndy (Post 1388108)

I'm not sure, but did I just crack your real identity Dave... or should I say... Ramsey? :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvXDk9uR5vg

(Got my email too and the phone is now fully paid :), delivery time was said to be 3-4 weeks)

Gordon "Dave999" Ramsey. I'm only watching NFL once a year at super Bowl. And that "beer". It shouldn't be allowed to be called beer. It only happens in America.

Beer - check!
Jolla - it's only weird if it doesn't work

sony123

2013-11-23 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388403)

i have lost some of the exitment about jPhone. what to do to get it back...

You'll get your jPhone soon, right?
That alone is something to be excited about. Some of the pre-oroderers like me outside EU have to keep on waiting. I have never been feeling so tired of "Stay tuned!"

biatch0

2013-11-23 17:13

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You could always just order it and have it delivered to a friend/family in the EU and then have them courier it to you. That's what I'm doing. Sure, it'll cost a bit more... but you'll not have to worry so much about "staying tuned".

Just to be clear, I'd much rather they (Jolla) just charged me an extra EURxxx to deliver internationally instead of having me jump through hoops.

Dave999

2013-11-23 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 1388446)

No. we dont have IT any time soon.

Rauha

2013-11-23 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1388451)

Just to be clear, I'd much rather they (Jolla) just charged me an extra EURxxx to deliver internationally instead of having me jump through hoops.

I'm sure they would be happy to just charge a few extra euros for shipping.

Instead of having to deal with mobile device regulations and regulatory approvals for device sales, warranties, localisations, network partners, logistics, marketing, legal representation, customer support, etc and so forth.

I think I wrote this before when this came up, but I'm happy that Jolla is doing it the way they are doing. There are plenty of 'hobby' Linux/OS-phone projects. And do not get me wrong. I'm not against those and many of them are great projects. We just don't any more of those. There are plenty enough of those great projetcs. Its just that we deserve to have Jolla as well and their way of trying to do it like a serious business enterprise that does things like a business, instead of a Stallmanian idealogical project (<-- not that there's anything wrong with that).

praveenchand

2013-11-24 06:17

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I already informed Jolla (via CC) that am ready to pay shipping charges. In response they recommended me to join mailing list to hear when Jolla will be available in my country.

Dave999

2013-11-24 07:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by praveenchand (Post 1388528)

I already informed Jolla (via CC) that am ready to pay shipping charges. In response they recommended me to join mailing list to hear when Jolla will be available in my country.

well. the question is how bad you want it. I could set up shop and buy them and send to you. it would be even faster if someone in finland could help out with this.

you send me money and i send you the phone. i wont charge anything extra for TMO members..
shipping cost
extra shipping box
phone.

you have to take all the risk with no payback if something happen with device during shippmen or if it dissapears.

praveenchand

2013-11-24 08:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1388537)

I already asked this somewhere before that if there is a possibility for TMO to coordinate the delivery.

Dave999

2013-11-24 08:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by praveenchand (Post 1388544)

I already asked this somewhere before that if there is a possibility for TMO to coordinate the delivery.

And?

I think its faster if some in Finland could help out. Anyone willing to help if there is a demand?

mikecomputing

2013-11-24 08:54

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If you prefer diaspora over facebook and got the new mail from Jolla there were some links to some social media sites where Jolla is active. One of them was diaspora so don't forget to click http://jolla.us7.list-manage.com/tra...8&e=488c94427c so they know people in EU is using diaspora the open social media...

Also they'r on: identi.ca

biatch0

2013-11-24 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1388482)

Instead of having to deal with mobile device regulations and regulatory approvals for device sales, warranties, localisations, network partners, logistics, marketing, legal representation, customer support, etc and so forth.

I understand these are all issues... the thing is that people who are willing to order to an EU address, pay for courier back to their own country, etc. most likely understand all of those things, and are willing to take the risk of possibly not receiving the device (or having to pay tax/duty/excise/whatever). All that being said, I'd still rather give the EURxxx on top of the device price to Jolla rather than Fedex or DHL (or insert your preferred courier company here). The risk is the same regardless of which company I pay the courier fees to.

To be clear, I wouldn't yell at the Jolla folks and start karate chopping tables in a rage... it would just be very much appreciated by the (slightly insane) fans around the world who want the device but are stuck in limbo until their country is confirmed (or confirmed NOT) to get Jolla support.

Dave999

2013-11-24 10:18

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I have to fly Helsinki between christmas and new year and Where is the best/biggest/most central DNA shop?. I expect to get My jolla before that but you never know With jolla. They changer their minds to often. Any others stores selling jolla?

kinggo

2013-11-24 10:20

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It just doesn't work that way. Sure, there are many pople willing to risk with it but Jolla can't sell you a device and then wash their hands. Let's put aside operators, localization and al that but they still would have to provide you with some warranty. I belive that there's no country that allows someone to sell something without some kind of protection for the consumer.

biatch0

2013-11-24 10:35

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Here... 3rd world country... nada consumer protection :p

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