Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

So, you understand the issues of Jolla delivering to * country and you don't. You do prefer to give them the courier money, but in fact what you would be giving them is the courier money+legal cost of trading in your country (3rd world or not, in fact, 3rd world countries normally make it harder, depends on the country of course)+warranty+other things I'm not aware of. Setting all that up takes time. If you are willing to take the risk, and if Jolla actually launches in China, I'm sure you'll see the phone available in a myriad of online resellers, which offer their own "international warranty" and so on. Some are good, some a are crap. Just read the threads about bying the N9 from the US and such places and you'll see websites and stories.

It isn't as simple as Jolla charging you for the extra money that takes to send the product to your specific country. They have to maintain their T&C's for evreybody or make new ones for each country. This is why I'm saying that dealing with an "international reseller" is probably the safest bet at this point.

That said, and I reiterate: it would be great if Jolla could provide some idea of when they are planning to focus on each country in the world [that showed interest]. I mean, stating at least in which half of a year they'd do it would help people decide what to do (get another phone, take the risk and get a Jolla from elsewhere, wait for the next Jolla, place themselves in a freezer and ask a friend to defrost them when the time comes, etc.).

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I mean just have an option for crazy people to get it couriered with no warranty (except in supported countries), no guarantee it'll arrive, and no legality in terms of regulatory authorites. Thing is your point is more or less the same as mine, just from a different point of view. The fact that people in * country don't know if/when Jolla will come to their country or if something is even being worked on - which is probably worse than having a straight up "NO WE NO COME".

TLDR: I completely agree with you - especially on the upcoming plans/focus on country X/Y/Z. This is something that could be handled much, much better.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Was this here before?
Jolla Service and Support page launches

http://wpsailors.com/2013/11/24/joll...page-launches/

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

It would have to be a private person, preferably from Finland, to march into a DNA store once they have Jollas on shelf and then have it mailed to you. And of course he would like to have your money in his bank account before this.

Just like many people already suggested.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

List of DNA shops:
http://www.dna.fi/dnakauppa/myyntipi...t/Default.aspx

These DNA shops are at the center of Helsinki but I don't know how large they are. They are all within walking distance from each other (10 minutes).

• Helsinki, Kaivokatu
• Helsinki, Kamppi
• Helsinki, Sanomatalo

Nearest of the Helsinki-Vantaa International Airport is this DNA shop: Vantaa, Jumbo. Jumbo is 4th biggest shopping center in Finland but I don't know how big the DNA shop is there. The main road to the airport goes next to Jumbo (3,3 km from the airport).

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Jumbo's DNA shop is the normal shopping center affair of the all top 3 operators here. So kind of a small corner shop, same goes for Kamppi shopping center DNA shop in the center of Helsinki.

I can't remember ever visiting DNA shop in Sanomatalo, but I would guess that it's their largest. Sanomatalo is Sanoma's HQ, company that used to own part of DNA.

http://www.sanoma.com/sites/default/...anomatalo2.jpg
Sanomatalo.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Well, sadly, I wouldn't do that if I were Jolla. There is PR to look after. If you have a good experience with the "go crazy" option, then you'll be extremely happy; but if you have a bad experience, you'll be extremely annoyed. There is no middle point, there is no opportunity for Jolla to support you, help you, make you happy. Hardware fails, software fails. Basically, you'd be able to go public and say "I got a phone from jolla.com and it was crap/excellent". That's too much of a binary outcome if you ask me, and we all know that negative comments make it to the surface more often than positive ones.

If you, on the other hand, buy a phone from internationalreseller.com and if fails or succeeds, your opinion is going to be contained to that reseller, to your area. You won't be able to say that you got it from jolla.com.

It sucks, I know, the world could be a better place, but it isn't.

Mind you, I'm not defending Jolla or anything, just stating my views, which come with a little bit of subjectivity of course.

We are in agreement though, and I'm positive that you'll find the device at a higher risk elsewhere. This has been happening for ages anyway.

As a side note, Jolla is selling in Switzerland - as far as I know, you need to have a warehouse or a distributor to sell there, so either way they have been doing something for a number of countries in terms of distribution already. I believe that this is exactly why they changed CEO the last time. Good news for [hopefully] where most of the demand is!

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

This is the week were Jolla must send lot as of mails and I expect the to send it tomorrow.they must give its customers at least a week to pay!

Any word of a party jPhone from release party with access for everyone?

Is it possible to get your jPhone in Jolla reception instead of getting by mail. If I dont have it before Christmas I'm knocking on Jolla's door to shake marcs hand and maybe hand over a beer for job done :D I will also share my concerns ;)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

How about throwing chairs?

;)

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I remember reading about this site a few days ago in one of the Jolla threads or blogs. But the webshop FAQ seems to be newly added on Nov 22?

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

DNA has started building the launch party at Narinkkatori, Helsinki:

https://twitter.com/DNA_fi/status/404871443093389312

with photo.

In English something like "At squar' first at squar' last. #funniestqueue #jolla #goodmorning".

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Just received the payment email from Jolla... and interestingly... you can select both your Billing & Shipping address (assuming you have different addresses for both). Seeing as my billing address is in an unsupported country, I'd expect I shouldn't be able to choose to use my billing address as my shipping address... BUT... yes I can... and for only EUR15, I can apparently get it shipped to my unsupported country.

Obviously, I haven't completed my order and I've pinged Jolla on Twitter to let them know about this.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I got the payment email also.
Now i'm impatient to get the phone in my hands! :D

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

same here, payment mail received, and finished the order.

Now hoping they'll ship before the 23.12. because starting at this date I'll be on vacation and my jolla is shipped to my work adress...

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

same here (German) :D
we all really hope to that we get the phone before xmas :)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I wonder that, according to the following picture, 100eur pre-orderers will get the jPhone with "floppy red" OH already on, without the white one. If not, then the picture is quite misleading.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

When you enter the store and click on the picture of Jolla, there are some basic details, including this line:
EDIT: And there are also two new pictures of Jolla, but I won't post them here - do not want to spoil the fun. Just let me say: The Jolla store is gorgeous.
The only question is: What are the 'Ambiance L-Locks'? ;)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Cheers, mate. I didn't try to click on the pic. The question is answered.


Originally Posted by nodevel View Post

EDIT: And there are also two new pictures of Jolla, but I won't post them here - do not want to spoil the fun. Just let me say: The Jolla store is gorgeous.

Do you mean those in "more views"? I can't see neither of them.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Oh, come on, you wouldn't be spoiling anything! you'd be just informing people. Bear in mind that some of us don't have invites. So, spoil away if it were for me!

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

That would be addressed to nodevel. I'm inside the store myself but the pictures cannot be opened, maybe they will when I actually complete the order, dunno.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I can't see them too, and I did complete the order a while ago.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

You asked for it... :)

http://i2.minus.com/iVZIM31meRevz.jpg
http://i4.minus.com/i8pFjlliEZeEb.png

EDIT: to xanderx: Neither have I completed the purchase... Maybe try fiddling with NoScript/RequestPolicy/... ?

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Second that, I can't view the pictures. Tried with both Firefox and IE... And I have no idea where the Ambiance L-Locks are mentioned shop.jolla.com...

Edit: @nodevel, thanks!

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Sailors packing and charging(?) the phones for wednesday. I think I saw mine in there somewhere... =)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


Edit: too slow... The same in Twitter: https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/4.../photo/1/large

More from Twitter:
"Jolla ‏@JollaHQ 1 h

@rgsidler The webshop will open for general direct sales in selected European countries once all pre-booking customers have been served." So pre-bookers get served first. I´m not sure if this applies to DNA as well, or are they getting phones to sell before all pre-bookers have had theirs.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I think that Jolla L-Lock is like maze lock to secure your phone. :)
But dont know why it says Ambiance Lock.

And second patch first hour and no email to pay phone. :(

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

It's clearly connected to the love lock which bothers me, since it's one of the most annoying things in the world. When you arrive to an old beautiful city to see it's monuments, you can be sure that half of those monuments will be 'infected' by this fast spreading disease :)

My dream is to buy large splitters.... ;)

But I guess it was about time someone used it in their marketing.
I think it is some kind of a social function to unite Jolla users.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

My bet is on NFC-enabled OHs can be used to match ambience between two devices? (I think this is Korean fad with bf/gf wearing the same clothes etc)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Let's ask you this question.

You are sending out a message saying all preorders to pay before 2nd to keep their priority order. Why not send out mail to all preorders. People could end up with only one or two days. Wtf? They had month to send out payment...hope no one lose their priorety deliver because of whatever reason.

Can't get over this fact;)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Why yellow? :confused: LOL cant tell friend from foo :D

Why not full suit...
http://images.esellerpro.com/2372/I/385/4/FDF_21843.jpg

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

You can. And it's not much work either.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I really hope Jolla integrates all of their sites under one hood! Otherwise it'll get really annoying with all those separate logins for the different jolla services. ;)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

And work proceeded during the day:
https://twitter.com/fk_lx/status/404...730048/photo/1

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This is the point I didn't get too clear: are *all* phone shipped to Finland distributed by DNA or only the lucky first 450 (plus what they'll sell though their channel)?
As, I'm in Finland, I'm not among the 450 selected ones, I got the invitation to pay email from Jolla, but I did not see a trace of DNA being involved in it.

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

Looks a bit better than I thought. They have a truck. I expected a van at most :)

It seems Nokia only had a van :D
http://knutkommunikation.se/wordpres...9/nokiaN91.jpg

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

I like the white Jolla TOH looks great, I hope the LE TOH in Poppy red has something extra or the white one is also included. Otherwise my first Jolla accessory purchase will be a white TOH :)

Edit well clicking on the picture in their shop.Jolla.com website answers my concern .

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

The point was that it _is_ a lot of work for the average user. This is off topic now anyway.

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Protect your Jolla from the eyes and wrath of jealous iWPOSdroid-users with the "NEO-Jolla-sailfish-riyo-1080p-n003-mobile-phone-cover-shell-cover-case" (no affiliation, ha ha :D )
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-...255582139.html

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Well it is off topic but it stands; everybody should own their domain names, that's what the bloody system's for in the first place!
(proud owner of my domain since the last millenium :D:D)

Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 

One more pic from Narinkkatori. Countdown has started!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8C_0eCcAALZjJ.jpg:large