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strongm 2013-11-26 21:22

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That'll be quite a lot of us who need to recalibrate then. Most commentators seem to be seeing oranginess ...

szopin 2013-11-26 21:26

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Awesome! I like orange. (my vote goes for orange definitely, seen thie vids with this cover and the press photos on a few monitors, always thought will be choosing this colour while finishing the preorder, maybe it's like with indigo, some see blue, some violet)

xanderx 2013-11-26 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1389189)
TMO is from now on poppy red :D Its a celebration of TMO!

Almost all your signature, Dave, is in Poppy Red. You knew everything about LE TOH from the beginning, didn't ya? )))))

Dave999 2013-11-26 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xanderx (Post 1389196)
Almost all your signature, Dave, is in Poppy Red. You knew everything about LE TOH from the beginning, didn't ya? )))))

Damn straight.but I'm looking forward to the event tomorrow with the ice cold white TOH rather than TMO RED TOH.

w00t 2013-11-26 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xanderx (Post 1389171)
And these are the concerns still keeping me off hitting the "buy now" button:
1. Web browser behavior and functionality
2. Xterm
3. DRM, aegis
4. Offline mapping solution

I'll stick to the issues I'm familiar with.

2. a terminal (fingerterm, https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm) is available close to out-of-the-box, after enabling developer mode. it's not xterm, but then again, you aren't going to get that easily given we don't have x
3. root means root. this is a regular linux system, more or less. you can do what you like, there is no aegis.

kollin 2013-11-26 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1389149)
Real Jolla Users

https://twitter.com/joonakallio/stat...95656514469888

I just check some videos fr.o.m. A few months ago. Marc Said Finland, asia and Then penetrate europé. But think something happend With the launch in asia.


So, Asia will not be penetrated, but we (the lucky Europeans) are going to be deeply penetrated? Is that what you are saying? :D

aegis 2013-11-26 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1389190)
That'll be quite a lot of us who need to recalibrate then. Most commentators seem to be seeing oranginess ...

Orange is pretty close on the colour spectrum of course and it does look more orange than postbox red is. The Jolla red reminds me of tomato soup.

I think what's confusing is that in the UK we have those horrible paper/plastic poppies at this time of year which are a deep crimson red when real poppies are lighter in colour usually.

aegis 2013-11-26 23:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1389203)
there is no aegis.

Oh yes there is. :D

Hey, I've had this handle since 2003. I'm not going to change it because of Nokia.

strongm 2013-11-26 23:13

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I'd anticipated that they'd gone with Pantone Poppy Red (rather than a red that looks like the colour of a real poppy) because it was fashionably on trend this year.

Still, we'll find out for sure in a very short time now.

gerbick 2013-11-26 23:36

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So... less than 48 hours, eh?

Kudos to the real first purchases and luck to the Jolla folks. Can't heap nothing but praises on their team for going from Nokia to new endeavor to delivered product.

Akkumaru 2013-11-27 02:21

I'm pretty sure either Engadget or The Verge will participate. But, their reviews will most likely bash on it.

gerbick 2013-11-27 03:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Akkumaru (Post 1389222)
I'm pretty sure either Engadget or The Verge will participate. But, their reviews will most likely bash on it.

Glad you didn't say Gizmodo. WTF is going on with that site lately? Way too damn hipster for me.

I'm personally waiting on Ars Technica's take on Jolla. That's going to be a serious read.

ed00 2013-11-27 03:40

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http://s1.bild.me/bilder/260513/4925114flop.jpg


;-)

soryuuha 2013-11-27 04:02

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reviewwwwww where is it?? mana???

sony123 2013-11-27 04:34

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I just noticed that the numbers of app submissions as well as registered developers have jumped up a lot. Last week I usually saw single digit for the two metrics but today they are 27/80 respectively.

jalyst 2013-11-27 05:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1389224)
I'm personally waiting on Ars Technica's take on Jolla. That's going to be a serious read.

I'm not sure they ever will, at least in a timely manner...
They very rarely cover anything about Sailfish(Jolla), & when they do they seem quite disengaged/uninformed.
When it comes to Android alternatives they seem far more interested in Ubuntu Touch, & then maybe Tizen :rolleyes:

Completely OT, but some good reading over there ATM:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/1...ox-one-battle/
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/1...onsole-beater/

Dave999 2013-11-27 06:12

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the best review is the avreage joe on the street.

Tujutzki 2013-11-27 07:37

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Tips and twets from DNA:

"DNA ‏@DNA_fi 15 h
Vaatevinkki huomiselle: lämpimät sisävaatteet, t-paita ei riitä. Ulkovaatteille on narikka ja sateensuojassa ollaan. #hauskinjono #protip"

Rough translation: "A tip on what to wear: warm clothes for indoors, a t-shirt is not enough. There is a cloakroom for outdoor clothes and we´re safe from the rain"

On paying methods: "@Juukks Same as in DNA Kauppa stores. Cash and cards. @JollaHQ"

Sneak peek: https://twitter.com/joonakallio/stat.../photo/1/large

Boxeri 2013-11-27 07:47

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Tomi Pienimäki was at finnish good-morning TV this morning. Showed the phone and the interviewer was playing with it, but nothing new was revealed. Tomi really is not that good performer even in finnish. A bit too engineer like. Not meant to offend engineers. His specialists talents must lay somewhere else.

In addition to him, there was some Aalto University professor. Can't remember his special field, something like mobile communication. What I really liked about his speeches was that he said he was confident of the ease of usage of sailfish. The interviewer was worried of lack of buttons in user experience, but the professor told her that the Nokia N9 had no buttons also, Sailfish is reminiscent of that phone and the N9 was the greatest UI invention in mobile industry. Now there one must agree :D

Dave999 2013-11-27 07:49

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do they serve pink drinks?

No ssh device yet unfortutunatly. I hope to see it soon. The world is bigger than Helsinki .

Tujutzki 2013-11-27 07:52

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A first (clear) picture of the connections?
https://twitter.com/katiriik/status/.../photo/1/large

ste-phan 2013-11-27 09:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tujutzki (Post 1389239)
A first (clear) picture of the connections?
https://twitter.com/katiriik/status/.../photo/1/large

"Today my other half is pink" and tomorrow it has grown pink hair... :rolleyes:

To me the said connections look nothing more than batter / antenna or USB at best.
I was expecting some kind Jolla bus.

And the other half, well hat is just a plastic Chinese cover.

att 2013-11-27 09:51

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At Finnish YLE:

Jollan puhelin myyntiin tänään – "Ei tule pärjäämään yksin"
http://yle.fi/uutiset/jollan_puhelin..._yksin/6955214

Rough English translation, you can blame me on translation errors:

Jolla phone on sale today - "Will not do on its own"

Today Jolla launches its first phone and is planning to sell hundreds of thousands of phones during the first year. Now the challenge for a small Finnish company will be the marketing. The company will not stand up on its own.

[intro text for the video] Jolla, founded by ex Nokia people, will bring its first phones to the market. What they look like, and can they challenge? And how the land lies on Finnish phone and mobile know-how? At the Morning TV Jolla's CEO Timo Pienimäki and IT network professor Jukka Manner from Aalto University discussed about the future of Finnish mobile industry. Video: Yle

Wednesday afternoon, history will be made at Narinkkatori, when for a long time there will be a new Finnish mobile phone at the market whose brand is not the familiar Nokia.

At the mobile phone company Jolla's launch event the first 450 preorderers will receive the long-awaited phone on their hands.

After Nokia's final decision last week to sell its phone division Jolla is now on almost the only flag bearer of the domestic phone design.

And the challenge is great.

- So far the challenge for Jolla has been the development, but now the challenge will be finding a market to achieve sales. It is by no means easy field. Faced with the big players like Google, Apple and Microsoft, and there are also newer small companies like Mozilla and Ubuntu coming to the market, research director Jyrki Ali-Yrkkö from the Research Institute of the Finnish Economy ETLA is analyzing.

The small company's goal for this year is to sell twenty thousand phones. Within a year, the target is about two hundred thousand phones.

Initially, the market is Finland, later also Europe and China. With the pursued sales volume Jolla would still be a very small player in a huge market.

Jolla CEO Tomi Pienimäki believes that there is however strength in small size.

- Yes, there is always room for challengers in all markets. It is the law of nature, which applies to all industries. We are a small company and it means our cost structure is very light. This in turn means that we do not, of course, need to achieve impossible large volumes, so that the business will be profitable.

Close Co-operation

Alone, the mobile newcomer is not expected to do well on the brutal markets. These days the major mobile phone companies are investing huge amounts of money on marketing, which is often seen directly on the phone sale volumes. A fledgling firm doesn't have that kind of money in its back pocket.

- Own money for the global marketing budget will not be enough. But through co-operation, for example by having operators involved in the activity, you can succeed, ETLA's Ali-Yrkkö sheds light on.

The cooperation has already begun. For example, the telephone operator DNA has been closely involved in the design of the first phone that will be published today. In its own words, DNA has brought the customer's perspective into the product development of the phone.

- Of course business has always risks, but in this case we have tested the phone and found it to be good. We believe that it has a great potential both in Finland and abroad, the phone business director Cedric Kamtsan from DNA says.

Johan Jaakkola
Yle News

bockersjv 2013-11-27 09:59

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Currently on my way to Helsinki, invited to meet the Jolla crew before the big event, just how the flight is not late.
Amazing free fast Wi-Fi on Norwegian flights!

tommo 2013-11-27 09:59

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I wanna see how much the first one on ebay gets, maybe we could have a sweepstake!

mariusmssj 2013-11-27 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1389254)
Currently on my way to Helsinki, invited to meet the Jolla crew before the big event, just how the flight is not late.
Amazing free fast Wi-Fi on Norwegian flights!

Don't forget to keep your blog updated and enjoy the flight :)

Rauha 2013-11-27 10:02

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Same piece on YLE's english news site:

http://yle.fi/uutiset/jolla_phones_a...otnote/6956112

Hmmm. The YLE translator has added 'hopefully' for the sentence about China release. In the original finnish version it was soon/near term/something like that.

w00t 2013-11-27 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1389254)
Amazing free fast Wi-Fi on Norwegian flights!

Damn straight. Love Norwegian!

Where are you flying from? :)

bockersjv 2013-11-27 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1389260)
Damn straight. Love Norwegian!

Where are you flying from? :)

London Gatwick.

nbedford 2013-11-27 10:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1389254)
Currently on my way to Helsinki, invited to meet the Jolla crew before the big event, just how the flight is not late.
Amazing free fast Wi-Fi on Norwegian flights!

I'm impressed at your commitment, I don't think your mad, even if your wife and kids do. I got the invite, but unfortunately I couldn't get time off work out of other commitments, so I am stuck here in the UK waiting for the deliveries to begin. I'll be following your blog closely this afternoon/evening :)

LordSnick 2013-11-27 10:55

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Hah, placed my order in the webshop now :D hope to have it before xmas!!

ggabriel 2013-11-27 10:56

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Right... so clearly they opened the gates for all preorderers from Europe. Now, where is the user manual? :-)

mariusmssj 2013-11-27 11:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1389272)
Right... so clearly they opened the gates for all preorderers from Europe. Now, where is the user manual? :-)

The UI is so well done there is no manual :D

youmeego 2013-11-27 11:16

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what is the exact time theu start selling today?

mariusmssj 2013-11-27 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1389275)
what is the exact time theu start selling today?

DNA tweet:
Quote:

Event starts at 17:00 and the first jolla is sold at 19:00

OVK 2013-11-27 11:43

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Just walked by the Jolla/DNA tent. Seems like they still have quite a lot to arrange inside the tent :D

I took a couple of pictures also:

http://tinypic.com/r/2nbvhiu/5

I wonder if the guy standing on the right is the actual FIRST ONE?
http://tinypic.com/r/2ezjtpz/5

http://tinypic.com/r/23vlx0o/5

EDIT: The images did not show so I just leave the links.

Tujutzki 2013-11-27 11:46

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Apparently he is the First One:
http://t.co/QD2XxYnLjI


"Henri Huttunen ‏@Kuuskutonen 42 min

Ensimmäinen paikka varattu! #hauskinjono
Käyttäjän DNA uudelleentwiittaama "

"First place taken!"

jalyst 2013-11-27 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1389251)
...I was expecting some kind Jolla bus.

We've known for ages now that there's such a bus, not a proprietary "Jolla bus", but I2C.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbedford (Post 1389269)
I'll be following your blog closely this afternoon/evening :)

Where is this BLOG of his that people keep referring too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OVK (Post 1389282)
Just walked by the Jolla/DNA tent. Seems like they still have quite a lot to arrange inside the tent :D I took a couple of pictures also:

OMG the weather looks utterly miserable, I feel cold & wet just looking at those pictures :D

catbus 2013-11-27 12:28

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http://bockersjvjollasailfish.blogspot.co.uk/

shadebug 2013-11-27 12:30

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Stockholm to Helsinki is delayed by ten minutes and we only get 100MB of free wifi here! Doomed!


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