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Dave999 2013-11-28 22:52
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
1 million Per year but 20000 first month? Anyone else that sees the mismatch here. :D

Maybe it's time for a new CEO...

jalyst 2013-11-28 22:54
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
The 1million is reference to them "hoping" they'll have at least one other Sailfish OEM/ODM on board soon, so it won't only be them selling Sailfish device(s).

Dave999 2013-11-28 23:11
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1390415)
The 1million is reference to them "hoping" they'll have at least one other Sailfish OEM/ODM on board soon, so it won't only be them selling Sailfish device(s).
If the Mange to sell one third of that million I'm both surprised and impressed.

Kabouik 2013-11-29 00:31
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Anyone got shipping info/tracking number today?

Kaacz 2013-11-29 00:49
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
[Dave999] IMHO Jolla now have standard minimal batch of devices = 100 000 .
50000 for first wave (maybe 20000 is EU now shiped, rest is to world), 50000 for second Finish wave.
When next batch in next year will be one milion ? God know ..

And .. "this month" have in real only 4 days! from start. See you point? :)

Have you seen photo with persons flashing first devices? This is slow, laborious and expensive process. This is not exist in big production batch. Device is flashed in factory. And next year Jolla will to have better firmware for new devices.

This million devices will be make, packed and sell in China .. by largest mobile provider. Absolutely different case ..

pycage 2013-11-29 10:45
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
The first 450 were flashed manually by Jolla with love because the image flashed by the factory was a bit old. :)
The retail devices sold starting from December should arrive with the proper image already from factory.

strongm 2013-11-29 12:25
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
>The first 450 were flashed

And the rest of the pre-order devices that were supposed to start shipping as from 27th?

Interestingly, JollaHQ have recently tweeted that "We are not commenting on the logistics" in response to questions about whether any phones had actually (or were about to be) shipped ...

Have to say I'm going to be a little disappointed with Jolla if people can actually buy phones in DNA shops before pre-orders start reaching the customers.

pycage 2013-11-29 13:09
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1390616)
>The first 450 were flashed

And the rest of the pre-order devices that were supposed to start shipping as from 27th?
I don't think any devices will be shipped in November. DNA said that they have the phone in stock in December. This sounds like they are still waiting for the devices to arrive from the factory.

Mikkosssss 2013-11-29 13:22
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Jolla has just released new "Tell me about" videos.
www.youtube.com/user/JollaOfficial/videos

AMD 2013-11-29 14:05
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Check out what "The Verge" just posted on Facebook..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...3995472&type=1

Dave999 2013-11-30 07:59
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaacz (Post 1390441)
[Dave999] IMHO Jolla now have standard minimal batch of devices = 100 000 .
50000 for first wave (maybe 20000 is EU now shiped, rest is to world), 50000 for second Finish wave.
When next batch in next year will be one milion ? God know ..

And .. "this month" have in real only 4 days! from start. See you point? :)

Have you seen photo with persons flashing first devices? This is slow, laborious and expensive process. This is not exist in big production batch. Device is flashed in factory. And next year Jolla will to have better firmware for new devices.

This million devices will be make, packed and sell in China .. by largest mobile provider. Absolutely different case ..
I think you are way to optimistic with the numbers. I leaning more to a figure around 100 000 this year given that no external player adopt sail. So far there are to many unknowns about Jolla. I hope Jolla sell lots of devices but with current plan. 100 000 in the first to batches is totally up in the blue...

DeeGee 2013-11-30 09:55
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
CEO said in a finnish interview that they are hoping to sell little under 20k phones before end of the year, so pre-orders mostly. The first batch probably covers that.
And I guess there was talk of the 2nd production batch starting, I hope it's bigger. And in the interview he talked about 200k Jolla phones to be sold during the next year.
And then there's the target of 1mil Sailfish OS phones to be sold. So that pretty clearly means that they have some kind of deals about to happen.

Dave999 2013-11-30 10:03
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
It could also be that the lower the price 250 euro.

mikecomputing 2013-11-30 10:53
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaacz (Post 1390441)
[Dave999] IMHO Jolla now have standard minimal batch of devices = 100 000 .
50000 for first wave (maybe 20000 is EU now shiped, rest is to world), 50000 for second Finish wave.
When next batch in next year will be one milion ? God know ..
Well I think 20 000 devices is what they expect to sell based on preorders in may/september. Not what they have actually sold, remember preorder is not mean all do full order. I Think the communiy have misunderstand that statement. Also 20 000 means december not this month as november.

Btw. AFAIK there is only around 4000 devices sold so far (if those order numbers is begin at 1). But hopefully this spoeedups as soon as people get they'r devices and show it for friends etc... hopefully reach that 20 000 devices that they hope for this year.

But 1 million devices next year? I really doubt... They should be happy if they reach 10% of that.. But first they need to convince operators in northeurope and UK and get device out in China as expected(not much talk about that lately)... then they may have slighly chance.

They really need back from the operators in EU now so if you want Jolla its really is time for us start ask the damn operators in our countrys.

gerbick 2013-11-30 11:06
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
1 million devices in one year? Possible if they blanket China and the EU. North America will not add to that amount in any significant form unless they go the ZTE route and sell on eBay or get an Amazon partnership going on.

But even then, the lack of marketing and lack of carrier integration - face it, North America is a strange as heck market due to the subsidies and how an unlocked phone generally isn't seen as a benefit here - will be a hindrance to them here.

Japan is probably off-limits, Apple has grown to be 75%+ of the sales there. China, once folks understand they can add any Android app store they like to it (flashing devices is en vogue there) it might take off and if they capitalize on their deal with (I forgot the name, can't be arsed to locate it now) they'll make it easily.

All my opinion, btw. And sadly, I say that as a person in the North American market...

Here's to hoping they make it. Would be nice to see this happen one way or another for Jolla.

ggabriel 2013-11-30 11:22
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1391063)
Btw. AFAIK there is only around 4000 devices sold so far (if those order numbers is begin at 1). But hopefully this spoeedups as soon as people get they'r devices and show it for friends etc... hopefully reach that 20 000 devices that they hope for this year.
I wouldn't estimate the number of sold devices by order numbers, as you may have more than one device in a few orders, some orders may be cancelled, etc..

Wasn't the message that they were shipping 20k devices in December only? That's the favourite PR message anyway, ship != sell.

Now, if you add up what's been ordered already and what DNA is stocking, maybe reaching 20k until end of 2013 is easy. Also bear in mind that they haven't even started selling the device openly online to the rest of Europe. Some of the reviews out there don't help a lot, but I reckon anybody who got addicted to the N9's UX will find The Jolla compelling.

rcolistete 2013-11-30 21:26
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1389345)
I'm sure some people will disagree with you. There are several dimensions around the "pretty soon". Think for example of the folks outside the supported countries.
No smartphone maker launches their products in all countries at the same time. It is usual to have months between regions or countries, when Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, Nokia, etc, launches their devices.And some popular smartphones are not available at all in many countries.

So, why people expect Jolla, with 90 workers, can beat the sales logistics of multi-billion smartphone makers ?

ggabriel 2013-11-30 21:42
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
rcolistete: not sure why you quote me. My point was very different and I agree with what you say anyway.

mariusmssj 2013-12-01 08:47
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
A ‪#‎Jolla‬ Unboxing, by Co-Founder Sami Pienimäki, at the London Press Event held on Friday 29/11/2013 [VIDEO]

xanderx 2013-12-01 09:33
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Looks like the guy is on a school's exam.

ste-phan 2013-12-01 10:25
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xanderx (Post 1391315)
Looks like the guy is on a school's exam.
Just skip the boxing video by the same guy, that is even harder to watch :D

m4r0v3r 2013-12-02 01:14
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/02/mee...kong-alliance/

so what happened?

maluka 2013-12-02 04:46
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1391511)
Nothing has changed.

Quote:
Jolla apparently has enough funding to sustain that effort too - with an alliance of industry backers committing to buoy up Sailfish to the tune of €200 million. Back in February Jolla itself also took in a €1 million investment from a Hong Kong based telecoms & mining firm, China Fortune, in exchange for 6.25% of the company. Chinese e-commerce giants Alibaba and Baidu have also been floated as future potential partners for Jolla - albeit that might just be wishful thinking at this point.

Jolla co-founder Sami Pienimäki said the company's already spent about €20 million getting to the starting point of being able to release its first handset, running the Sailfish OS. How much more it may need to nurture and build out an ecosystem to really get Sailfish moving remains to be seen.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/30/jolla-first-phone/

jalyst 2013-12-02 07:01
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1391066)
it might take off and if they capitalize on their deal with (I forgot the name, can't be arsed to locate it now) they'll make it easily.
D.phone, but there's that article posted a while back which revealed that the supposed major deal they had there, + the entire Sailfish Alliance thing, was a complete furfy.*
Here's to hoping that they're now well on the way to building something similar to their original (inflated) claims.

*& is probably one of the biggest reasons they got rid of Jussi

Quote:
Originally Posted by maluka (Post 1391532)
Nothing has changed:
"Jolla apparently has enough funding to sustain that effort too - with an alliance of industry backers committing to buoy up Sailfish to the tune of €200 million."
http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/30/jolla-first-phone/
No, they're just quoting the original stories, that info. is now wrong.
(or at least highly rocky, & far from the "done deal" they originally made it out to be)
Why the heck don't journalists check all their facts, jesus...

cvp 2013-12-02 07:34
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
today is the last day to pay your jolla pre-book ..... if some one forget it to pay ;)

ggabriel 2013-12-02 09:09
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1391546)
D.phone, but there's that article posted a while back which revealed that the supposed major deal they had there, + the entire Sailfish Alliance thing, was a complete furfy.*
Here's to hoping that they're now well on the way to building something similar to their original (inflated) claims.
Aye, they did communicate that they are going for China though, which I'm glad for, as at some point I thought they had abandoned the market. They may approach it differently than before, but that's another story.

Reflecting on this, if they manage to stay afloat even without China or with very few (but increasing) sales, then I'll be happy. Part of me wants Jolla to be small/mid sized for a while, you know, to avoid them from having to appoint one of these C*O's that don't know the difference between what RAM and a hard drive is.

m4r0v3r 2013-12-02 09:38
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
can't pay :'(

ggabriel 2013-12-02 09:46
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1391585)
can't pay :'(
Spam care@jolla.com?

nodevel 2013-12-02 17:29
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Now this is some interesting news:
Portugal to be the second country to sell Jolla

Source (Google Translate)

And here is the website of the seller, listing Jolla as one of the partners.

I am not sure what kind of company that is, but it is certainly good news!

EDIT:
The company's website is only two months old, so it looks like some kind of one time distributor just for Jolla. Unfortunately no big player - more like a one man show.
EDIT2:
Looking more into it, it seems somewhat official. The company also partners with Booxmedia, which is 20% owned by DNA.

gerbick 2013-12-02 17:33
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1391550)
today is the last day to pay your jolla pre-book ..... if some one forget it to pay ;)
No e-mail, can't pay.

mikecomputing 2013-12-02 17:49
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1391550)
today is the last day to pay your jolla pre-book ..... if some one forget it to pay ;)
No its not, only if you want it before Christmas.

cvp 2013-12-02 18:11
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
yes, sry, of cours, i mean if you want it befor xmas :D

mariusmssj 2013-12-02 18:30
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1391550)
today is the last day to pay your jolla pre-book ..... if some one forget it to pay ;)
Just paid for mine. Can't wait to get it !!!

jesper 2013-12-02 19:08
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1391550)
today is the last day to pay your jolla pre-book ..... if some one forget it to pay ;)
I got the same email reminding me that I had to pay today if I wanted it before Christmas.

Unfortunately I still have no way to complete the transaction. Jolla care sent me an email with a password to the web store two days ago but the shopping cart is empty and there is no way for me to proceed.
Guess I will have to swim over to Helsinki and buy one in a DNA-store when released :)

//j

Morpog 2013-12-02 19:11
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
jesper, contact care@jolla.com

jesper 2013-12-02 19:26
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1391858)
jesper, contact care@jolla.com
We have an ongoing conversation so the problem will be solved eventually.

Anyhow, no phones been shipped yet as far as I know so it will make no direct difference if I order tomorrow instead of a few days ago.

//j

ggabriel 2013-12-02 19:34
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesper (Post 1391857)
I got the same email reminding me that I had to pay today if I wanted it before Christmas.
So, the email actually said "before Christmas"?

jesper 2013-12-02 20:19
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1391874)
So, the email actually said "before Christmas"?
No not exactly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jolla email
Dear Jolla pre-booker,

As a pre-booking customer, you can still secure delivery in December by completing your purchase at Jolla Shop today. Please sign in with the details found in the Jolla Shop invitation email.

Please complete your purchase by 2 December, 2013 to ensure priority delivery in December. After this date, delivery times cannot be guaranteed or will vary.

Warm regards,
Jolla
//j

biatch0 2013-12-03 20:10
Additional/Spare TOH/Battery
 
Just to share some info that I received.

Basically, I dropped Jolla care an email mentioning that I was looking to purchase (wouldn't mind some for free of course :D) some TOH for laser etching/engraving/cutting purposes - I'd obviously hate to mess up one of my own especially if I can't walk out to a shop and buy a new one (not being in a supported country isn't helping). Shortly after, I added on to my ticket that I was also interested in additional batteries (I usually have at LEAST one spare battery for all my phones that have removable batteries).

I'm in a completely unsupported country, and my Jolla will be sent to my sister in the UK before I get it couriered to me (for an arm and a leg) from there. Obviously, being able to buy everything (extra TOH/battery) at one go would be ideal to save a little - DHL/Fedex aren't exactly McDonalds.

This is the reply.

Quote:
Hi,

thank you for your message and support!

Additional TOHs, Accessories, extra batteries and other Jolla-related products will be available in due course.

Unfortunately we don't have these products available yet.

have a great day!

Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care
I'm a little disappointed that these "spare-parts" aren't available for purchase off the bat.

Rauha 2014-01-02 08:06
Re: #JollaLoveDay - 20th May - device announcement
 
Jolla was the 5th most popular phone on DNA's holiday season sale figures.

Source: http://www.hs.fi/talous/Uudet+iPhone...a1388629740556


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