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Elleo: I quickly compiled your git tree and tested on device, unfortunately it seems not beeing able to play any songs, it browses the lists quite nicely and artist graphics comes up. So some tweaking is still needed.

Small improvement hint would be in PageStack disable backnavigation back to login page, or use replacepage. (And there is continiously running animation on the login page eating cpu (animation disable after succesfully login would be nice, or remove login page from pagestack)).

re, Jonni

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That's interesting, thanks for giving it go. It's just doing some pretty standard raw audio output via QAudio (which works fine on other platforms), so I wonder if the problem isn't with the emulator but with QAudio in general as an output mechanism on Sailfish. I'll have more of a poke later.

Yeah, a lot of the QML still needs converting and polishing, I've basically just done the minimum amount to get it into a usable state so far.

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After playing with GStreamer a bit at the command line it'd appear the emulator does support sound, but that Sailfish doesn't support any raw audio codecs via QAudioOutput, so I'll just rewrite that section to use GStreamer instead of QAudio.

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There definitely should be an applications that (as many has already mentioned) could change the default "out of screen" swipe gestures. As in N9, I wan't to use them as kind of shortcuts as well to specifig needs that I have for the device.

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Seems I can't use GStreamer directly and still distribute it through the Jolla store, so I may just have to pester Jolla in to fixing their QAudio implementation :/.

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We need a mapping app with
-locally stored map data (Jolla's current implementation uses Here cloud and requires internet connection which makes it unfortunately almost unusable for travelers)
-voice guided turn-by-turn navigation (currently there is no voice guidance which makes the app unusable or actually deadly dangerous to be used while driving)

I have a bad feeling that this will not be fixed by Jolla (Jolla Maps development is outsourced).

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I wonder why they went down this route for mapping in the first place. According to their interview in zdnet, they mentioned that mapping providers were aplenty and all offering similar rates so why not go full on with Nokia and ask them to licence Here Drive too like it seems will be done on tizen.

As of now, the mapping application seems pretty mundane and Sygic won't work till GPS for Android apps is not enabled.

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Mapping is a service, that sits in a wrapper (the app) and features are enabled or not given what the level of service is (APIs). Given HERE's potential licensing terms that Jolla agreed to, there might be a few things which aren't as easy to see at this point.

Therefore opinions about Mapping, have to be put into 3 categories:
- what are things happening in terms of the experience of the app (not the content of the maps) which need improvement (UX of app)
- what's happening in the content of the map(s) which are great/needs improvement (UX of services)
- what features should/shouldn't be enabled; which of these might require some kind of premium component that SailfshOS might/might not support right now (in-app purchasing of things like nav aids, voices, offline support etc.) - (UX of APIs)

Yes, we kind just want things to work right from the baseline that the previous device(s) came from. Its not exactly realistic given the "starting from scratch" nature of Jolla. Therefore feature requests versus UX preferences are going to be a bear to understand - at least from this initial 450 folks who have a device in hand.

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As already mentioned elsewhere, I am porting modRana to Sailfish. :)

And by porting I mean it will still work on & be released for all currently supported platforms but will now also work on Sailfish. :)

ModRana currently uses tiled map images for map display. Tiles are downloaded from the Internet when viewing the map and stored locally. There is also support for batch downloading tiles for a given area.

I have also plans fro implementing proper vector based map rendering, but unfortunately no timeline fort that just yet. :)

ModRana does turn-by-turn online & offline (using Monav) navigation. So as long as I can get Monav & Espeak (or equivalent TTS system) working on Sailfish, it should work there too.

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This really deserves it's own thread, & is probably not entirely on-topic here, but see this: Play Store for Jolla
(my absence didn't last long, ugh....)

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Install qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio and it should work, Jolla's MSameer (who totally rocks) figured it out for me :)

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here is able to dl content isnt it ? else how possible can nokiamaps from harmattan be lunched over sfos , xwayland + chroot ?

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Hi, can just someone tell me what file format is been used by the Sailfish OS? Thanks.

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The filesystem is btrfs.

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Why don't they simply use ext4? According to http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Ext4_vs_btrfs it's worse tested and has an inferior fsck.

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This is information from 2012 when btrfs was in its infancy.
Another reason is that you can rollback to snapshots with btrfs. E.g. to perform a factory reset.

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...I mean the app format, like ".deb" for the N9 and ".apk" for Android. What's the ending in Sailfish?

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.rpm

10chars

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.rpm is the answer.

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For what reason?

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AFAIK btrfs is the next thing (even according to one of the ext4 developers). In fact, Oracle and friends are merging a lot of zfs features there, which is a great FS. I'm surprised Jolla picked it as it isn't fully stable, especially on kernel 3.4. They must have tested it though, and a lot of people are using it.

Now, isn't this off topic? :-) I'd like MeeRun please.

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Sygic! Always good to have different navigation apps, but Sygic worked well on Maemo (plus hackable UI, woohoo!) and it does work well on Android. Enough advanced functions, only thing I like to see now is support for bikes.

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I hope that we get navigation and voice working on the N9 port too. :)

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Apparently because it has "Block discard support", which among other things improves wear leveling on SSDs/flash/etc.. It does have SSD mode as well which does a few things to level wear. Apparently everything is about leveling wear.

Like I said before, it's weird that they chose it. My kernel is 3.10+, and look at what it says:
I mean.. it isn't so much of a problem if the format isn't finalised (assuming they are versioning it ;-) ), as migrating to btrfs is pretty straightforward. Still, I didn't have the courage to test it myself, but loads of people out there are using it.

I guess I'll start testing it with my Jolla [when it arrives]!

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An intresting feature of btrfs is the incremental backup feature which apparently is used by Jolla for baselinig the device OS;
There exists a "clean untouched OS" baseline on the flash partitions, and when user does a device wipe by "settings->reset device" the filesystem state is rolled back to the baseline... :D

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I concur, that's been a well-known characteristic of it for some time, one of it's stand out aspects.

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QLandkarte M - does run on my N900/Maemo

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For people with devices and track stocks, can you please try out "Stockona" and let me know if everything works? Feedback on UX especially welcomed!

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Ingress.
Yes, seriously.
Some of you might just shake their heads, but it's fun (and you wouldn't give away as much of your location data on a Jolla, i reckon). On one hand, I've read on a german page that it supposedly runs on the device, on the other hand isn't GPS supposed to be unsupported in Aliendalvik?

Yeah, so, hoping for a native Version (which will never ever happen).

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I was pleasantly surprised to see BtrFS in Jolla's Sailfish OS :)
Have been using* it since March of this year and it has been very stable (and sometimes useful).

* on openSuse 12.3 and now 13.1

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Based on the two sets of UX questions I've asked in the Jolla UX thread (questions 1, questions 2) and their associated answers; here's what I'd like to see:

- contacts/people app that aggregates all of the events, media, comms log, social media of a person into one screen
- location supported in events - but also to be able to see a calendar view of all those location tagged items you might have done on your mobile
- a service like Nokia's Mobile Web Server or Samsung's Kies Air allowing you to log into your mobile from another device, deal with messaging, etc., update/delete apps, and even connect your Jolla to web services which might have an API, but not yet an app for SailfishOS

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I started working on a Sailfish-style two-paned filemanager. The first version will hopefully be available by the end of the week.

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Is SMSCON being ported to Sailfish? And Backupmenu?

Also, in addition to the apps I've mentioned in earlier posts of this thread, I'm wondering whether someone is working on an application to sort app shortcuts in folders. I hate when all icons are at the same level, it can become very quickly messy if you have a lot of applications. Relevant sorting becomes difficult, and you have to browse between 3-4 pages, which is not convenient.

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It's not that GPS is unsupported, it's that it's "hit & miss" in terms of actually working, so it probably did work if that German page said it did.

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I have done the initial porting of meegopas to sailfish.
It runs mostky fine:
- I didn't do much fixes for the UI
- there are some quirks especially with the maps
- It cannot be submitted to the store because it uses unsupported API.
- I disabled cycling since I don't use it and was too lazy to fix it.
- Packaging is crap

Code is here https://github.com/foolab/Meegopas
RPM is here https://build.merproject.org/package...ailfish%3Aapps

I don't plan to do more fixes but it'd be nice if someone could take over.

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My Sailbox (dropN9 dropbox client port) is now available at store.

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I have no idea what those things are but there's a nifty little thing called ssh that I use to do all that plus just about anything you can imagine, with just a few shell scripts...

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I would like to see Timesheet in my becoming Jolla. And ofcourse Pinball Fantasies and Tuxrace ;)

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Props to Jolla for trying out something this experimental in a retail device!

I've been experimenting with this under Harmattan - setting restore points at any time, being able to mount and even boot to see the FS as it was at the time of the snapshot!