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bjv 2013-07-21 07:05

Re: Replacing N900 with Galaxy Nexus+Ubuntu Touch
 
Very correct. I've been unable to get even non-QML Qt5/c++ programs to work on Ubuntu Touch so far (libqt5gui5 depends on libx11-6 as well per apt-rdepends)

With Jolla mobile shipping with Wayland suddenly these two platforms are looking more and more... limited.

bjv 2013-07-21 07:51

Re: Replacing N900 with Galaxy Nexus+Ubuntu Touch
 
Day 28) weechat-ncurses, ejabberd, and pyAIMt did help improve daily use, but lack of notifications/browser GPS support/music finally has stopped me from carrying Galaxy Nexus as a daily driver. Not sure if it's the unpolished Ubuntu Touch OS or the Galaxy Nexus bar/touchscreen-only form factor... but going back to the n900 with keyboard after 4+ weeks just physically feels like using/typing on a more solid/professional device.

Aside from waiting for major daily-use features (audio, headphones, speakerphone,location services [blueprints.launchpad.net]) to arrive ...(each day now they're just barely hanging onto their timetable [ubuntu.com]) the other big item that has yet to land is Mir [launchpad.net].

without Mir there is no hope for xMir/x11/qt4 support ... leaving the OS stuck with Android Surfaceflinger for display and their special Ubuntu-port of qmlscene as the only thing for diplaying GUI UI.

Mir version 0.0.8 [launchpad.net] is the next release and is rumored to be the first version ready for inclusion on the device. Also supposed to address a number of major issues (including a lack of a passthrough mode [bugs.launchpad.net] for fullscreen apps/games).

Until Mir/xMir lands, everyone's pretty much saying write your UI in QML, hook it into D-bus with a little c++ and then call into your python application logic via D-bus[lists.launchpad.net]. :(
Not as gross as maintaining your entire application in c++ and relying on SDL or something for a cross platform UI... but not exactly nice.

interesting:
fMMS on n900 is acceptable but it looks like ofono may be able to provide Ubuntu Touch with MMS working out of the box. Currently marked inprogress [blueprints.launchpad.net]

bjv 2013-07-21 08:32

Re: Replacing N900 with Galaxy Nexus+Ubuntu Touch
 
In other news pyqt5 was released Wednesday ... but no QtQuick 2.0 support, so that doesnt really get us anywhere with Ubuntu Touch and the brave new (all-opengl) world.


The updated doc does indicate a future release of PyQt5 will implement a QtQuick module [pyqt.sourceforge.net].

rcolistete 2013-07-21 17:00

Re: Replacing N900 with Galaxy Nexus+Ubuntu Touch
 
See the discussion about future Sailfish programming, where PyOtherSide can be a solution for Python on Sailfish, Ubuntu Touch, Android, etc.


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