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juiceme 2014-02-24 19:54

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lazart (Post 1414123)
is it possible to install Sailfish to the N9 without loosing all the data? Keep the rootfs and /home?

Sure... You have no reason to lose your data.

Best thing of course is if you already are running in open mode, then you do not need to do anything that would erase your current Harmattan installation, as you only need to make sure there's enough space on MyDocs to carve out the sailfish partition.

If you are not in open mode, well, you can do it, but it requires some manual tweaking to not lose your data, as you need to back up your partitions and do some selective restoring after you have gone to clean open mode.
Or, if you do not care for clean open mode, (like, you will have the "scary warning" and maybe some instability of some applications) you do not need to do any clean reflashing, it is possible to install ubiboot on your system just as is.

mikecomputing 2014-02-24 20:01

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmartin (Post 1413568)
Why? I want use my camera (not work), I want landscape mode and I want drop several bugs :) as listed in the release notes.

Where is the problem? This path is not compatible with N9?

Camera will not be "fixed" because you upgrade sailfishos. Thats N9 driver need to be ported to use sailfish gstreamer plugins if I remember correct.

I think there were some progress with camera+ something...

coderus 2014-02-24 20:06

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
afaik nobody working on N9 sailfish adaptation

danpio 2014-02-24 20:09

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
probably not! :(:( Licenses and kernel block progress

afaq 2014-02-25 11:59

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Sorry if this has already been tackled - but the Flasher v3.12.1 is no longer available on the wiki. The link posted is dead.

Is there somewhere else I can get this?

anthonie 2014-02-25 12:05

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
@afaq

I just had a quick look over at filecrop.com. Plenty of download links available there, though most of them seem Windows versions. Of course it's not an official site, so a virus scan is advised.

coderus 2014-02-25 12:12

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
https://coderus.openrepos.net/flasher/

afaq 2014-02-25 13:11

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Thank you both. Much appreciated.

danpio 2014-02-25 17:07

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
break news:"Hi, there are licensing issues with N9's hardware adaptation, and Wayland on the N9 is not so good. But stay tuned!" says jollaHQ

pmeuh 2014-02-25 20:35

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Jolla HQ says no as well ;)
https://twitter.com/jucato/status/436832029921918977

flotron 2014-02-25 23:39

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danpio (Post 1414301)
break news:"Hi, there are licensing issues with N9's hardware adaptation, and Wayland on the N9 is not so good. But stay tuned!" says jollaHQ

I think that stay tuned may reffer to Android adaption or unofficial releases

rswelter 2014-02-27 21:36

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flotron (Post 1414352)
I think that stay tuned may reffer to Android adaption or unofficial releases

I don't think they would want liability of an official version? But I hope something more functional becomes available.

Shadwblade2652 2014-02-28 05:51

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rswelter (Post 1414685)
I don't think they would want liability of an official version? But I hope something more functional becomes available.

If I'm not mistaken, somebody else brought up the point that Nokia still holds the patents/trademarks/copyrights/whatever it is to the N9. Because of this, Jolla will never be able to release a port for a device that is not theirs. They have stated numerous times, however, that they will provide support to those who do port it.

Cornholio 2014-02-28 17:05

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Hi everyone. Today I finally got my N9 flashed with ubiboot for Sailfish/Harmattan using these http://wiki.maemo.org/Sailfish with linux.
Now ubiboot starts and shows Sailfish, Harmattan and ubiboot info icons. If I tap Harmattan, phone shuts. If I tap Sailfish, it starts with welcome screen. Then I have to select language and in next screen confirm language.
After that "please wait" screen appears for then seconds and it starts over again. Other people seem to have same problem but I didn't find any solution for it..

coderus 2014-02-28 17:23

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
harmattan. you missed preinit files for ubiboot
sailfish. you need to tap accept button to continue

Cornholio 2014-02-28 17:51

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1414816)
harmattan. you missed preinit files for ubiboot
sailfish. you need to tap accept button to continue

Tried it but its still the same. What you mean by "missed pre inits"?

coderus 2014-02-28 18:02

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
not unpacked preinits package. or missed executable bits for files.

Cornholio 2014-02-28 18:18

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1414823)
not unpacked preinits package. or missed executable bits for files.

On what package/step?

juiceme 2014-02-28 22:08

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornholio (Post 1414826)
On what package/step?

Actually, as you are talking about ubiboot with just Harmattan & Sailfish entries, I guess you are using the sailfish-preconfigured version of ubiboot (ubiboot-02_0.3.5_131213_SFOS.tar)

That package should contain the preinits already, so unless you made some problem in installinf the package, you should be OK with that.

Now, if you have boot problems, connect the device to a PC with USB cable and start ubiboot. On boot it will enter maintanance mode where the partitions on the device are exported to the PC as USB drives.
If you have a linux computer, you will see all the drives, if a windows computer, then you will only see MyDocs (which is vfat)

Now, do that, and look for the ubiboot log files, which will tell you what is your problem.
The log file is /MyDocs/boot/ubiboot.log

jmsarriat 2014-03-02 00:06

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Nokia X runs Android, Sailfish will run on Android devices. Will Sailfish run on Nokia X? Just wondering.

coderus 2014-03-02 05:12

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
will work as soon as CM 10.1 arrive to Nokia X

4lpha 2014-03-02 13:45

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
It's funny that Nokia X has bigger chance to get a fully working Sailfish OS than Nokia N9 which was always considered more open comparing to other handsets.

mikecomputing 2014-03-02 14:22

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4lpha (Post 1415096)
It's funny that Nokia X has bigger chance to get a fully working Sailfish OS than Nokia N9 which was always considered more open comparing to other handsets.

Whats funny with that? Its very logic.

Nokia X has probadly newer Qualcom something with better GPU than N9 with 5 year old HW.

N9 Omap GFX driver is old and X11 only.

I guess Qt5/QtQuick2 and Wayland is using OpenGL more heavily than N9 did and depends on good better 3D GFX HW drivers.

There seems to be same issue with mer kernel adaptions for Qt5/Wayland for beaglebone black (anyone knows if there exist any mer/nemo/sail kickstart files for beaglebone black btw?) it has almost same GFX as N9 if I remember correct.

Dave999 2014-03-02 14:26

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This is by far the best jolla thread. Keep up the great work! GJ Love sail on n9 even if its far from perfect.

vasile123 2014-03-04 12:13

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
I think there shouldn't be put that much effort in porting sailfish to N9.

If the orientation and the camera will not be fixed, who will use it as day-by-day phone (is anybody that uses now n9 with sailfish?)

Then is the GPS, Android interface, etc.

There is the sailfish theme which gives a flavour, is that one that could be improved eventually :).

N9 is a phone beautiful as it is, i see no way you could improve it without too much effort. We love it, we don't want it to die, but that's it, it's already quite old, jolla is the future.

Moreover, in the near future sailfish will be fully functional on android phones, this is the thing Jolla team is working on.

LAAK1 2014-03-04 13:53

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How good will Sailfish run on android devices? will sailfish run on any android device? thank you for your answer.

coderus 2014-03-04 14:05

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Sailfish can be runned on android with CM10.1 capability

Garp 2014-03-04 16:58

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vasile123 (Post 1415387)
I think there shouldn't be put that much effort in porting sailfish to N9.

If the orientation and the camera will not be fixed, who will use it as day-by-day phone (is anybody that uses now n9 with sailfish?)

Then is the GPS, Android interface, etc.

There is the sailfish theme which gives a flavour, is that one that could be improved eventually :).

N9 is a phone beautiful as it is, i see no way you could improve it without too much effort. We love it, we don't want it to die, but that's it, it's already quite old, jolla is the future.

Moreover, in the near future sailfish will be fully functional on android phones, this is the thing Jolla team is working on.

As it is now - if you don't talk about number of apps and games - Sailfish in the future maybe seems to be better than Android, but that don't tell much - old school as even newest Android Kitkang is, but compared to MeeGO Harmattan it's still far behind even if the mentioned serious bugs on N9 will be solved - I think!:D

mikecomputing 2014-03-04 20:29

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vasile123 (Post 1415387)
I think there shouldn't be put that much effort in porting sailfish to N9.

If the orientation and the camera will not be fixed, who will use it as day-by-day phone (is anybody that uses now n9 with sailfish?)

What about investigate/use https://gitorious.org/cameraplus ?

AFAIK the lowlevel N9 camdriver is there. But the jollaapp "depends" on android via libhybris camera drivers and N9 depends core linux driver. But both uses gstreamer but different sinks if I understand it correct... Some who know this better should clarify. But to me it sounds like cameraplus is something to look at?

Cameraplus was inititial for harmattan but seems to have some uknown state sailfishport. I tried compile some month ago, but failed. but did not investigate why it failed... go check it :)

arifkhan123 2014-03-04 21:14

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http://pocketnow.com/2012/12/27/wind...cketnow.com%29

is this possible in N9?

vincr 2014-03-05 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by arifkhan123 (Post 1415458)

possible, maybe. Usable? :D

arifkhan123 2014-03-05 20:30

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincr (Post 1415480)
possible, maybe. Usable? :D

why maybe usable?:confused:

4lpha 2014-03-06 20:41

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Pointless. Besides, even Sailfish is not working properly and drivers for Windows would have to be written from scratch.

juiceme 2014-03-07 11:37

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4lpha (Post 1415741)
Pointless.

True indeed. It totally escapes my mind why anybody would want to run some flavour of windows on any mobile device.
(or any device in general, that is...) :D

Hurrian 2014-03-07 14:24

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arifkhan123 (Post 1415458)


Load the Beagle BSP with u-boot and you're golden.

mikecomputing 2014-03-07 20:14

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arifkhan123 (Post 1415458)
SPAM

is this possible in N9?

Problem reading thread title or what?

Dave999 2014-03-07 20:32

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
hehe. Mike is always so smooth and gentle.

arifkhan123 2014-03-07 20:42

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1415843)
Problem reading thread title or what?

sorry sir:p

max83 2014-03-09 06:54

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
the new mer image has been uploaded in mer project website they claim that they fixed the OHM issues

2014-02-24 fixed ohm-* missing dependency

refer here

Shadwblade2652 2014-03-09 19:44

Re: Porting Sailfish to N9 (or other)
 
Any status on getting 1.0.3.8 running on the N9? So far it's been fairly quiet.


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