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Thoke 2013-08-25 10:38

Jolla's Second Pre-Book Campaign in Autumn
 
Hello, I'm a new user to this forum (have just recently found this site) and I have found this site interesting.

But skipping to the point, I've been interested about a Jolla device for a while now, and I've heard their next (big) announcement will be due in autumn. What I've collected is that they are currently working on a lot of things, including a new Sailfshish/Jolla promo video. What I think is that when the second batch pre-booking of Jolla phones is announced, a lot more is announced too. I think they will definitely announce the complete specs of the phone. Other things... not sure, but they might shed some light about their app-store solution and apps coming bundled with the phone. And they will probably release the new promo video they've mentioned they're working on.

So what do you think they will announce or not announce? Jolla has been very careful with announcements since Jussi Hurmola's resignation (He announced that their first phone will be released in 2012; that might have something to do with his later resignation and their current carefulness with announcements). To me it seems they do a few BIG announcements rather than several small ones.

Dave999 2013-08-25 11:02

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When I saw the headline I thought Jolla had launched some new cool campaign. I'm so disappointed.

Thoke 2013-08-25 11:15

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Well summer is over in 7 days, so it's a possibility they'll launch the campaign then ;)

Dave999 2013-08-25 11:29

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Sounds good to me. Anything is better than nothing. Hope the price is around 299 Euro. 399 euro doesn't fit the device.

Rauha 2013-08-25 11:34

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Hardware specs should be finalised now that they are ordering batches from China. Pretty sure that they'll annouce full hardware specs. Propably bit more about OS as well.

App-store etc. I would not expect until winter, closer to phone hitting the stores.

Thoke 2013-08-25 13:53

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I hope they'll shed some light about Other Halves too. If they've decided to produce the keyboard halves, it would be time to announce it too.

jib 2013-08-25 16:53

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I hope they will allow orders from the USA this time.

minimos 2013-08-26 05:06

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To reach the US probably they'd need to rework the RF/modem section of their device and certainly going through an expensive FCC certification round.

Kriek 2013-09-04 04:46

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A possibility for those outside the EU... shipito has a warehouse in Austria. They are currently forwarding via Austrian Post and FedEx.

Given that the device will be compatible with your service provider(s) and if distribution is limited to the EU... it should be as simple as changing your mailing address on the pre-order.

;)

shmerl 2013-09-04 06:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1369403)
To reach the US probably they'd need to rework the RF/modem section of their device and certainly going through an expensive FCC certification round.

Why? If they support needed LTE frequencies, no need to rework anything. Most modern modems support many frequencies at once. FCC can be a mess though.

ggabriel 2013-09-04 07:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1371891)
FCC can be a mess though.

And all the stupid patent wars, the likes of Apple and Google who can't deal with competition, and so much more.

Jedibeeftrix 2013-09-04 07:36

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I hope we get some real specs at the second preorder.

I am ready to drop the cash, but I want to know what I am buying...

juiceme 2013-09-04 08:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1371918)
I hope we get some real specs at the second preorder.
I am ready to drop the cash, but I want to know what I am buying...

Why?
I've got specs enough: It's a Genuine Jolla device running SailfishOS. I even know the price tag for it :)
What else do you need to know really? How will it make you happier to know something else?

Jedibeeftrix 2013-09-04 11:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1371936)
Why?
I've got specs enough: It's a Genuine Jolla device running SailfishOS. I even know the price tag for it :)
What else do you need to know really? How will it make you happier to know something else?

Because itmatters to me.

I want to know the SoC.
I want to know amoled or led.
I want to see the final form factor.
Etc

These are not inconsequential questions my friend.

Thoke 2013-09-05 17:12

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Jolla has already announced that all major apps will be found on their device, and the full hardware info will probably released soon enough considering their latest tweets.

Dave999 2013-09-05 18:09

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I think its important that jolla are doing something special with this campaign, not just a 399 Euro campaign on there webpage!

mikecomputing 2013-09-05 20:22

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https://plus.google.com/109671132288...ts/jNf4hQitRHB

qwazix 2013-09-05 20:38

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F*** yeah!

I'll be there.

mikecomputing 2013-09-05 21:13

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nice see that Jolla is silver sponsor of the event.

note that Microsoft and Jolla is in the same ballpark in terms of sponsorship of the event. I mean how much money has Microsoft vs Jolla :D

I hope Jolla get most attention on that event they def deserves it

Thoke 2013-09-11 11:31

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The campaign is nearing, there's been one noticeable change to their website!

Dave999 2013-09-11 16:35

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Where is this new campaign? I want to buy jolla phone for 299 Euro, not that old price 399 Euro.

Would be cool if they could present some new info about the phone as well. I think many customer waiting for some real info before even consider buying a jolla.

My guess so far: 12067 Pre-ordered devices. 81% will go through with purchase at release.

Jolla should add an extrea cheap phone for, lets say 150 Euro. But you have to fly all the way to finland and pick up the device at the release party.

mikecomputing 2013-09-11 18:29

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cvp 2013-09-12 08:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1373680)
Where is this new campaign? I want to buy jolla phone for 299 Euro, not that old price 399 Euro.

299€ ... wait 6-8 month and you get used device for this price
150€ ... wait 1,5-2 years and you get used device for this price

Quote:

Would be cool if they could present some new info about the phone as well. I think many customer waiting for some real info before even consider buying a jolla.
yeah... i think all users waiting for.... but the release is not far... three month ;) you will see, the time go fast

ggabriel 2013-09-12 09:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1373680)
Where is this new campaign? I want to buy jolla phone for 299 Euro, not that old price 399 Euro.

That'd be a great move for Jolla indeed! Offer a second pre-order phone with 100€ off. The first wave of people who preordered and don't have a phone yet will be ecstatic about it!

Just do what you did with the N9... wait and get it cheaper.

Dave999 2013-09-12 09:57

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The guys in the first batch me included pay more to get the device on release day. That's why this second preorder can run a price stage of some kind.

But yeah its likely that they are going for a flat price 399. It the easiest choice.

torcida 2013-09-16 22:24

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Next production batch will be opened for pre-orders this week

The last weeks have been very dynamic in the mobile industry and after the Microsoft-Nokia announcement the strategic position of Jolla and Sailfish OS has strengthened significantly.
“Due to extremely positive feedback and increased demand in the past weeks, we are offering another pre-order opportunity for our second production batch later this week through jolla.com. This will be targeted to Finnish customers who want to express their passion for the Finnish mobile industry,” Pienimäki concludes.

:D

More here: http://jolla.com/media/documents/130...ss_release.pdf

mrsellout 2013-09-18 09:08

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jolla.com have a countdown on the main page for the start of the 2nd Pre-order campaign:

PRE-ORDER LAUNCHING FOR FINLAND

Pre-order your Jolla on Thursday the 19th September, 2013 at 12 noon! Available in Finland.

Dave999 2013-09-18 09:43

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So is this campaign exclusive for fins?what's your thought on that ?

torcida 2013-09-18 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1374988)
So is this campaign exclusive for fins?

It seems so... :/
Hope there will be a international preorder asap as well.

Dave999 2013-09-18 10:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by torcida (Post 1374996)
It seems so... :/
Hope there will be a international preorder asap as well.

yes, just got a mail said its fins only. So ****ing Boring!!!!!

jolla,GTFU in the world. If they favour the fins in any way i will start an anti jolla campaign :(

torcida 2013-09-18 10:11

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@ Dave999:

LOL ... Calm down a bit, it's just a pre-order - btw, a while ago there was already a international pre-order... ;)

Dave999 2013-09-18 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by torcida (Post 1375000)
@ Dave999:

LOL ... Calm down a bit, it's just a pre-order - btw, a while ago there was already a international pre-order... ;)

Im calm, still dissapointed!

we add (fins only) in thread title.

ggabriel 2013-09-18 10:23

Re: Jolla's Second Pre-Book Campaign in Autumn
 
On a more serious note, the fact that this is only for Finland raises a couple of questions:
- Why do they want to go for a well known market in the second campaign?
- Does this action imply that they bit too much in the first campaign and as a result some people will be disappointed (i.e., will get their money back)? Perhaps there are some countries where you just can't deliver?
- Or is it just quicker to do it in Finland at this stage and that's why they are doing it?
- Why won't they include EU? You can always buy from within the EU, get it shipped [at a higher cost] and be done with it.

Mikkosssss 2013-09-18 10:38

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Maybe 90% of preolders last time were from Finland and they think that theres no people who want buy phone from small company elsewhere.

mrsellout 2013-09-18 10:50

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It's a common sense move for me. In the wake of the Microsoft deal, a lot of Finns will be feeling betrayed, so a play on that sentiment could deliver a good quick take-up of the second pre-order.

If they achieve that, then operators in other countries may take notice and offer deals. A bit like the Socialism in One Country theory, strong at home, then overseas.

juiceme 2013-09-18 10:52

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I know Jolla has an agreement with the finnish TELCO operator DNA and this 2nd preorder might a set deal between them.

Propably the event will be announced with DNA, and orders taken via DNA, hence finland only.

Dave999 2013-09-18 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1375011)
It's a common sense move for me. In the wake of the Microsoft deal, a lot of Finns will be feeling betrayed, so a play on that sentiment could deliver a good quick take-up of the second pre-order.

If they achieve that, then operators in other countries may take notice and offer deals. A bit like the Socialism in One Country theory, strong at home, then overseas.

yes. That is not the issue.

why not include the world?

Mikkosssss 2013-09-18 11:04

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If only fins got this email, here is new pics from it.

Hmm are we able to edit those touch buttons?
And will homebutton send back to multitasking screen?

torcida 2013-09-18 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1375016)
yes. That is not the issue.

why not include the world?

They'd like to concentrate on theire home country fist, where is the problem... Btw: I live in Germany.

I think "mrsellout" explained it very well.

aQUICK1 2013-09-18 11:19

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Im from the Netherlands but received the mail anyway with a* meaning
* The second wave pre-order campaign is currently only available in Finland. Campaign info for other markets will be announced in the future.


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