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bugzy 2013-09-03 03:36

Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
It looks like the real situation has finally surfaced. The following article at engadget says it all. Microsoft is buying out Nokia.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/02/m...ices-business/

gerbick 2013-09-03 03:38

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Psst... started a thread in Off-Topic earlier...

bugzy 2013-09-03 03:41

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oops. And I did a search too. Can someone please merge the threads before it gets unwieldy?

shmerl 2013-09-03 03:44

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Yeah, this was expected ever since Elop ditched Meego. Nothing good will come out of this - only more patent racket and etc.

Dave999 2013-09-03 04:00

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So many people have said :never happen, no profit for Microsoft to do so and so forth.

I guess all are wrong...

My question. What is left of Nokia? Number of employees? Areas?

Will the Lumias phones be named...

Nokia Lumia?
Microsoft lumia?
Only lumia?

panjgoori 2013-09-03 04:01

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we all knew that Elop will sell Nokia to Microsoft and now it happened. but its still sad for me.

soryuuha 2013-09-03 04:18

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trojan horse!!!!

now lumiaman can fap to elop happily

nokiabot 2013-09-03 04:31

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awsome now the name just needs a change.....

Leinad 2013-09-03 05:08

well, this is really sad, but we can be happy some people escaped from this sinking ship to a dinghy - or like it's called in Finnish: Jolla

Dave999 2013-09-03 05:14

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Is jolla the biggest mobile manufacturer in Finland now? :D or is the expensive phone manufacturer still based in Finland?

minimos 2013-09-03 05:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1371437)
we all knew that Elop will sell Nokia to Microsoft and now it happened. but its still sad for me.

And at this point Elop can return to the dark side of the moon, claim Ballmer's throne and, first and foremost, GTFO.

Schturman 2013-09-03 05:38

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R.I.P Nokia... :(


Viva La Jolla :D

hardy_magnus 2013-09-03 05:53

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sad news. I think this was the deal between elop n ballmer. Elop Helping microsoft to buyout ruined nokia just to be in the race of becoming next microsoft ceo.

Hacker 2013-09-03 05:58

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This is the Endgame of BlackBerry and Nokia, and the real question is what it will mean for Sailfish. The fall heavyweights are going to own the rest of the year and the challengers have been scattered.

Nokia runs for the hills, er that is, to Microsoft. We'll see how that works out. My guess is that it won't work out well. At any rate, Nokia saw the storm on the horizon and has been begging to be acquired by Microsoft ever since.

The Crackberry forum has been buzzing about BB devices being pulled from T-Mobile stores and going direct sale only. Best Buy also had similar news concerning BlackBerry inventories for Verizon and AT&T and going direct ship once inventories sell down, and the same story is happening at Radio Shack. Buh-bye BlackBerry.

So into this competitive landscape comes Sailfish. Predictions?

p0pa 2013-09-03 06:00

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RIP my friend

longcat 2013-09-03 06:01

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No surprise here.

We all knew this is going to happen.

snowboarder 2013-09-03 06:45

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Finally!!!...good riddance!!!!
I for one am glad that this company is now history and will be relegated to the dustbin of history. This explains perfectly why they ditched their linux portfolio of products. Microsoft considers linux a cancer and there was no way they were going to support or continue to manufacture linux based products. Many of us knew that fat slob was a Microsoft trojan and now it's all been laid out for everyone to see.

The only sad part to this is that now Microsoft owns all the Nokia mobile patents and they WILL start doing whatever they can to squash Android, Sailfish, Tizen...basically any linux based mobile will now be on their radar. Get ready for a slew of lawsuits against these linux based OSs...

SB

vetsin 2013-09-03 06:45

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Is this really legal? Sending a trojan and buy it cheap when the castle has fallen? Do you know of any decent link regarding the legality of this matter? Not that I own Nokia/MS stocks just curious... :)
Also, could this pose a threat to the Neo900 project legal-wise?

zlatokosi 2013-09-03 06:47

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A big FU to Micro$oft and Elop.

A bigger FU to Nokia for letting it happen.

Leinad 2013-09-03 06:51

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http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...9d_460s_v2.jpg

droll 2013-09-03 06:57

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hate it, we may but i have a feeling this Nokia + MS marriage will actually be successful. maybe not successful enough to be #1 but definitely successful enough to hurt Apple and Google so that they feel pain.

MS has a lot of R&D which they have problems getting out the door (commercializing) in a good cadence. Nokia has cool R&D (not as many as MS) which they manage to get out of the door.

Nokia understands the mobile industry (and consumers) more so than MS could ever do in the next 10000000000 years.

MS understands the enterprise story more than Nokia could ever do in the next 999999999999 years.

yadda yadda yadda

i'll say give them 12-18 months to start seeing some really cool stuff that the average joe would want to buy.

MS and Nokia (prior to the purchase) are like a little mozzie bite to Apple and Google.

nieldk 2013-09-03 07:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by soryuuha (Post 1371439)
trojan horse!!!!

now lumiaman can fap to elop happily

LOL, hmm he was a MS until 2010, after which he joined Nokia - and sank it. You do the math :-O

Artyom 2013-09-03 07:11

Great news for nokia now we can enjoy the mighty square ui phones even more.

Rauha 2013-09-03 07:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schturman (Post 1371465)
R.I.P Nokia... :(


You are about 2,5 years late.


RIP Nokia was in 2011 (Elopcalypse). It just took a while to bury the corpse.

Dave999 2013-09-03 07:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1371505)
LOL, hmm he was a MS until 2010, after which he joined Nokia - and sank it. You do the math :-O

I have to congratulate Elop for the job. Well done! He executed the plan perfectly.

My question is this. How can the board accept a low price like this? They are the once to blame. Elop did well. Sad but true.

tanago 2013-09-03 07:26

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http://www.mobilebulgaria.com/upload...ic_3_28277.jpg

Microsoft bought Nokia for 5,44 billion Euro

Microsoft to acquire Nokia’s devices & services business, license Nokia’s patents and mapping services
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/...ncementPR.aspx

The Next Chapter: An open letter from Steve Ballmer and Stephen Elop
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/...-stephen-elop/

Accelerating Growth
Microsoft’s strategic rationale for deal announced
with Nokia on September 3, 2013
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/...cRationale.pdf

Sopwith 2013-09-03 07:38

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Can anyone clue me in: how can Microsoft buy Nokia for $7.2 billion, if the current market cap for NOK is $14 billion? How does acquisition of publicly traded companies work?

juiceme 2013-09-03 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
hate it, we may but i have a feeling this Nokia + MS marriage will actually be successful. maybe not successful enough to be #1 but definitely successful enough to hurt Apple and Google so that they feel pain.

Not really. It will continue to be something in the single digits percentage, a mosquito bothering pair of elephants.


Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
MS has a lot of R&D which they have problems getting out the door (commercializing) in a good cadence. Nokia has cool R&D (not as many as MS) which they manage to get out of the door.

Not really. When was the last time you saw any innovations come from MS?
They are pretty good at this acquire and destroy business but cannot hold on to HW business.


Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
Nokia understands the mobile industry (and consumers) more so than MS could ever do in the next 10000000000 years.

Not really. Or else they would not have fscked up their OS business so bad they fell into MS's gentle lap.


Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
MS understands the enterprise story more than Nokia could ever do in the next 999999999999 years.

Not really. They are just forcing themselves on corporate environment by sheer force and through incapability of managers in general to understand tehcnical matters.


Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
yadda yadda yadda

There, you finally got it :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
i'll say give them 12-18 months to start seeing some really cool stuff that the average joe would want to buy.

Not in a 1x10⁶ years.


Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1371499)
MS and Nokia (prior to the purchase) are like a little mozzie bite to Apple and Google.

Yes. And continue to be.

juiceme 2013-09-03 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 1371526)
Can anyone clue me in: how can Microsoft buy Nokia for $7.2 billion, if the current market cap for NOK is $14 billion? How does acquisition of publicly traded companies work?

Cos they only bought the Devices.
NSN is where the money in NOK comes from.

vpk 2013-09-03 07:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snowboarder (Post 1371492)

The only sad part to this is that now Microsoft owns all the Nokia mobile patents and they WILL start doing whatever they can to squash Android, Sailfish, Tizen...basically any linux based mobile will now be on their radar. Get ready for a slew of lawsuits against these linux based OSs...

SB

As far as I know, Nokia still owns its patents, they will not been sold to Microsoft. This is a good news for Finland.

pishta74 2013-09-03 08:27

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Looking from the marketing perspective, this is very good news for Jolla and the long waited sign for GO!
The patent thing can be harsh for everyone though

Sopwith 2013-09-03 09:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1371536)
Cos they only bought the Devices.
NSN is where the money in NOK comes from.

Thanks, I figured that out eventually. A bit slow this morning...

Well, it seems like a decent deal for Nokia then.

Akkumaru 2013-09-03 09:07

I think Jolla has more chance from this for some reason...

longcat 2013-09-03 09:31

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Remember this?


Elop is the 7th biggest Microsoft shareholder!
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69745

I wonder how will this affect his shares ...

Mikkosssss 2013-09-03 09:46

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Elop is the 7th biggest Microsoft shareholder!

I wonder how will this affect his shares ...

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Kangal 2013-09-03 09:54

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Nokia choices:
A) Try something different with lots of potential, do a partnership with said Megacorporation, go all-in
B) Do what everyone's doing. Go with Android (2.1 at the time), end up like HTC
C) Follows through with current plans. Roll-out MeeGo, end up like RIM
...Nokia was doomed from the "start".

Success for hindsight:
A) Nokia licenses WP with the ability to develop with MS. They release a WP7 device with Galaxy S worthy specifications in 2010. MS made to give tens of millions to port over Applications. Nokia allowed to distinguish itself from other WP vendors. Less investment, shared treasures.
B) Nokia decides to differentiate by skinning Android (mixture of MIUI, RIM, iOS). Makes the best hardware and doesn't go for the "cokc measuring contest" with SoC's. Puts full-weight behind developer friendly and marketing. Converts current success to a new medium.
C) Nokia pushes out a Galaxy S worthy specifications with SwipeUI in competition with Samsung and Apple's iPhone 4. Throws its wealth at rapid development and maturation, and tens of millions into getting Applications. Struggles until 2012 but becomes profitable and has a nice proposition of moving its ecosystem into tablets, laptops, TV and home console (and PSP competitor). Nokia transforms with the industry, where it becomes a "self made man" like the industry-leading Apple.

bandora 2013-09-03 10:19

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Excuse my language but... **** YOU ELOP AND NOKIA BoD!!!

joelsk 2013-09-03 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1371497)

Hahaha..

Brilliant

Artyom 2013-09-03 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1371575)
C) Follows through with current plans. Roll-out MeeGo, end up like RIM
...Nokia was doomed from the "start".

Yeah right.

Rauha 2013-09-03 10:33

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<honestly and without any sarcasm>

I'm in awe of Ballmer and Elop. This was one the most brilliantly executed corporate takeovers in the whole history of capitalism.

This should be taught in business schools around the world for decades to come. Flawless excution.

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