Heads Up AT&T now recognizing The N9 as a smartphone.
 

AT&T changed my grandfathered unlimited data plan to a 3 GB plan. I Called to see what the deal was and he specifically said I had the N9. I guess I Got away with it long enough :/

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Bummer.

If you're limited to 3 Gigs now, you might as well dump them for a monthly PIA plan from an MVNO like StraightTalk and save some money. They've got lousy customer support, but who doesn't

OTOH, if your usage includes streaming audio, then maybe not.

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Good thats not how it works in Finland. :p

My monthly data usage is 20GB+ with N9 and hotspot.

I pay 2e month for it. Got 5e discount trought. :)

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The whole data plan in USA seems unbelievable for me. I have no clue what smartphone or non-smartphone has something to do with data plan. Why they care?

Can you guys please explain how or why is it like that in USA?

Kind of like Mikkosssss, I have unlimited 3G connection only for 5e/month.

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I think the idea is that if you have a non-smartphone, you'd be using much less data, just checking your email, infrequent browsing on a tiny screen, mostly just using voice and SMS. A smartphone, OTOH, you'll be running data-intensive apps, web browsing frequently, streaming Pandora or whatever . . .

These assumptions are not mine, and really are generalizations and I've probably left out a lot of stuff. Certainly any given customer could be the exception in either case, but I suppose on the whole it's accurate enough for business purposes. When AT&T first got the iPhone exclusive deal in the US, data usage from those customers really clogged up their tubes for quite a while.

BTW, when you guys say 2e or 5e a month for data, you mean on top of what you pay for voice service, right? Not a total monthly cost?

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Dunno about US. I am in the UK on some ancient (15+ years, no longer offered) pre-paid plan with 5 free texts per day but outrageously expensive data (something like £1 for every 3 MB). It suits my usage pattern and I top up by £5 only once in 2 to 3 months but... I once blew my entire remaining credit (whole £15, what was left from a £20 voucher I got for Christmas) just by running apt-get update.

Regarding why the phone type matters... It is one of those "unlimited until you use it" things.

I also heard that you pay for receiving calls in the US. Is that the case or is it a thing of the past?

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Yup few euros more for voice and sms top of that. (I dont speak that much on phone. I use skype on phone and FB messages)

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It Sucks bad but what can I do, think I'm going to switch to T-Mobile(unlimited data) and get a different phone. I Love my n9 but if I'm bing to have to sign up with a new contract might as well get a newer phone.

T-Mobile USA no longer offers service contacts. Everything is month to month.

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I think that you missed the major point. its a way to get more money

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yea I was amazed that they did this, Im sure it will bring them alot of users

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Hmmm I am on AT&T and have had no issue yet. Still on my grandfathered plan.

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Not entirely true. They do offer service contracts, it's just bundled/pitched a different way. You can in fact get a phone up-front without a high cost with a contract. They have to offer that, or they'd get no new customers since the US market is used to having subsidized phone.

The only real difference is that you can get an unsubsidized plan that's not pre-paid. (Though the pre-paid plans still tend to be a better deal, with more options, if you're not in a shared/family plan.)

FWIW: In a few many major cities now, T-Mobile is updating their towers and providing some 3G service in the 1900 bands used by AT&T in the past. N9 users in those markets could switch to T-Mobile and still keep 3G. A friend of mine just got an unlocked P7000 and it's getting 3G on T-Mobil service, despite it being an AT&T branded/banded phone.

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It's mostly a thing of the past, but that's mostly because more customers have unlimited voice plans or at least very large allotments of talk time. Those customers with limited voice plans do in fact still pay (or have minutes deducted from their allotment) for incoming calls.

You can get a phone with very little up front and simply pay off the remainder of the cost of the phone over a two year period. HOWEVER, if you pay off the phone before that period, the 'contract' is null and void. Phone cost is 100% paid by the consumer now. No discount and no subsidizing whatsoever.

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Yes, but technically, since the N9 has pentaband HSDPA with both the 1900 and AWS 3G bands, it shouldn't matter in markets where T-mobile already has good AWS coveage...

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I already get 3G with T-Mobile on my N9 as well. (shows as 3.5, but whatever).

But as for the topic, I know when I log into my T-Mobile account, the N900 was detected and showed, but the N9 never has. I thought that's what it was talking about, that AT&T actually showed the N9 on their page. I wonder if Jolla phones will show up at all on them...

slaapliedje

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T-Mobile sold the N900 in the U.S. so it makes sense that they can recognize it in their system. The N9 on AT&T being recognized however intrigues me. I do have an N9 and am using AT&T but I have pulled my sim from it last weekend and started re-using the N900 again.

OP, out of curiosity, how much data do you normally use?

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Lol :D this month around 500mbs. I got my N9 in January, Jan-Aug I was using





















around 40 GB's a month more or less:D

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I average about 2-3GB a month on my data plan with AT&T. Still haven't seen anything happen with my grandfathered plan. I'll post here if I do.

My next stop will probably be T-mobile as it will be cheaper than paying for AT&T.

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Really? I ended up buying mine off of Amazon, if I recall. Never even saw that T-Mobile were selling them. I really wish the N9 had been sold here as well, since then we could have gotten a fair metric on how well it did versus the Lumias...

slaapliedje

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I'm on T-Mobile in Washington DC area with N9 and use at least 2GB a month on 3G.

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I don't think T-mobile US ever sold the N900. My phone shows up as "unknown" when I log into my T-mobile account on-line. (Though in reality, customer service reps can identify it in the system as a N900. From a billing point of view, T-mobile never cared enough to flag the N900 or N9 as "smartphones running an OS they care about".)

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T-Mobile never sold the N900, that's how many people are still getting away by using the $5 tmobile web internet with no bandwidth caps. T-Mobile can't recognize the type of phone the N900 is on their network for billing. All branded phones force you to upgrade your plan to the more expensive one. As above, when I sign into my billing account, it's said unknown for the past 3-4 years.

When I was without home internet a few months back, I averaged around 15GB each month for two months and never received a notice.

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I can guarantee you the N900 was sold in the US by T-Mobile, at least in the local T-Mobile store in Montclair, CA. My roommate at the time bought his @ the T-Mobile store. He did purchase it outright on April 2010 so I do not know if T-Mobile was subsidizing it at the time or not.

But don't just take my word for it.

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I just reinserted my AT&T sim in the N9 and I got an SMS as well. Definitely not a "heavy: user. My average use is about 500-800MB/month, I'd be lucky if I used more than 1GB/month so I don't think they flag accounts based on usage.

The conspiracy theorist in me however says that Nokia (MS) handed over the IMEI's of the N9's to AT&T but for what gain? They must begetting something in return. I will have to try this on the N8 as well since AT&T wasn't identifying it either.

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my N9 isnt showing up on AT&T, they still have me listed as using my old Nokia 8801... LOL

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Which operator is that? I pay saunalahti 10 euros for the unlimited plan :(

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TeleFinland with some phonecalls and they made offer that I could not bypass. I cant remember why, I got it like 5 month ago.
Its only 1Mb connection but why would I need more when Youtube plays well with 3sec wait.
Most of my data goes to streaming playlists from Youtube.

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That's why! They tricked me into getting the max :P

Thanks mate:)

And good luck to the guys in the states:)

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There was a way with the N900 as well as the Galaxy Note to delete the EFS info in the EFS directory. Back ip up first of course.

This assigns a generic IMEI that starts with 049 or something. (default IMEI 004999010640000)

Has anybody done this on the N9? Would this keep them from detecting it as a Smartphone if the APN info was deleted as well.

This is how I want to use one on ATT.

I would not need any Cellular data.

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i don't have a problem with my n9. i have the white one if there's any difference. but my gf with the black n9 had gotten the sms about it several times now

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Where is the EFS directory on the N900? My web searching all comes up with a solution specifically for Samsung Galaxy phones.

Argh
 

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I actually have had T-Mobile in the USA for pretty much all of my life that I've had a cellphone, so here's my experience, as objectively as I can make it:

Overall, T-Mobile has been fine.

Notable exceptions include the fact that I had the worst of luck both in my family home where we lived when I went to high school, and in my current residence - signal at those spot was routinely unreliable and definitely not good enough to maintain a 3G internet connection. (When I was on the Community Council here, I would often start the meetings while I was on my university campus, where I get perfectly fine signal, over 3G, but then either have to disconnect to switch mid-meeting if they lasted until it was time for me to get home, or I'd linger on campus until meeting was over just so that I could keep the connection.)

But here's a surprising twist: sometime around last summer, they must've put up a new 3G/3.5G capable tower nearby, because my cell signal in my current residence became wonderful, the aforementioned being a non-issue.

Besides that, I have maybe one dead spot that I know of along a long road here in Florida (I make long-distance trips by car more frequently than most), but it's not major. The worst dead spot for T-Mobile in my experience was a particularly secluded cabin in North Carolina where my partner's Verizon phone got the barest minimum of signal, while mine was completely out of reception.

So it's worse in coverage than Verizon and AT&T, perhaps, but in my experience not substantially so, and they seem to be getting better, slowly...

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Since my N9 has now been "detected" by AT&T, I am now paying $230/mo for 4 lines, one of which has no data. Ridiculous in my opinion and I am now headed to T-Mobile for like you said, $100/mo for 4 lines. I've had AT&T before and did not have as many issues with them as I have had with AT&T. In my area, AT&T seems to have the worst coverage and even if they did have better coverage, $230/mo is outrageous.

mine is still undetected. Maybe it's only the black n9?

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They've picked up on mine as well and I have a Finnish built Black Nokia N9. Consider yourself lucky for now.

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They haven't picked mine up yet. Black 64GB Finnish N9. How do you find out that they have picked it up? Text message or just checking your bill?

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Text message stating that you need to sign up for a data plan is what I got. And that was while it was on pure wi-fi (my house).