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jayki 2014-01-20 16:05
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Please Please one with Arrows :( Maybe there is one like this but with traditional arrow keys? :/
At least i just would buy this, because it will be the only one to buy, but if there were one with arrow Keys i'd prefer this ;)

dirkvl 2014-01-20 16:08
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayki (Post 1407706)
please please one with arrows :( maybe there is one like this but with traditional arrow keys? :/
at least i just would buy this, because it will be the only one to buy, but if there were one with arrow keys i'd prefer this ;)
find me one!




(this one costs $4,60 combined for keypad and domesheet)

mdengler 2014-01-20 21:15
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Can you type on it as well as the N900 (or N950) keyboard after a few hours of trying?

Can the strange pad be used as directional keys?

If both are yes, I'm for it. Sounds like a great form factor.

dirkvl 2014-01-20 21:39
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdengler (Post 1407774)
Can you type on it as well as the N900 (or N950) keyboard after a few hours of trying?
No idea. The keys are slightly hollow, which is different. The feel of pressing the key is the same to me. But I just have the loose parts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mdengler (Post 1407774)
Can the strange pad be used as directional keys?
It is an arrow pad. 4 arrows with 'ok' in the middle. ;)


Also, still working on the 3D design of the whole thing. Had some idea's that 'worked' but were really complicated. Focusing now on keeping the parts as simple as possible. It's a battle of fitting everything in there and not adding thickness, while avoiding very thin walls.

jayki 2014-01-20 21:45
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Just didn't found smoething good in this price class...
So, Can we use the Arrow Pad like the classic arrow Keys?
(like in Terminal or a game)
If yes, i'm for it, too ;)
:)

dirkvl 2014-01-20 21:58
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayki (Post 1407782)
Just didn't found smoething good in this price class...
So, Can we use the Arrow Pad like the classic arrow Keys?
(like in Terminal or a game)
If yes, i'm for it, too ;)
:)
Yes you can.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/mlbdL8jYb2WOs/giphy.gif

Kabouik 2014-01-21 00:48
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
I used a Droid for a few days, just before switching to the N900 (ahhh, the good times). I remember that I prefered (a lot) the N900's keyboard. The shape of keys was much better for tactile feedback, I could feel where my fingers were even if they were hiding 4 keys. With the flat keys of the Droid, I never felt so comfortable and the error rate was higher. I'd really prefer any keyboard with concave keys like the N900's. This is not to mention the proper arrow keys and the silent typing of the N900 (some keyboards are very clicky and can't be used in a meeting, this is really important and this aspect must not be overlooked in my opinion).

Of course, if it's the only HWKB OH available, I'll buy it ias soon as it is available. But I think better keyboards may exist, perhaps not as cheap because you would have to buy unecessary parts with it (like BT keyboards for iPhones). I guess this is the problem you are trying to avoid with the Droid keyboard, but to be totally honest, I wouldn't mind throwing 40 more euros in your OH if you could achieve the killer HWKB OH with optimal keyboard design.

Keep up the great work!

minimos 2014-01-21 06:58
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1407647)
Edit: it is just a but small, only 100mm wide.. Will leave 15mm gaps on both sides.
Sorry, this is probably a wild shot but as I'd like to have access to camera with the kbd closed, as this one is quite short, would it be possible to have it tucked all down to the bottom part of the phone when closed and then, using some hinged arms, swing out in a centered position?
However I recognize that it would not make easy to accomodate such 'pantograph-like' movement with the flat flex.

dirkvl 2014-01-21 08:08
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1407852)
However I recognize that it would not make easy to accomodate such 'pantograph-like' movement with the flat flex.
This is IMO an understatement. Using off-the-shelf parts is key.

Henque19 2014-01-21 09:58
Re: [WIP] Building OtherHalf keyboard prototype --fast times!
 
The Droid keyboard seems good enough, but not perfect.
If the small size means the camera can work (as pointed out earlier), then awesome!

Otherwise there are other Motorola keyboards that are larger:
Motorola Droid 4 (or Photon Q, seems to have the same kbd), available here.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-cont...n-keyboard.jpg

This keyboard is a closer fit to the Jolla, so it might look better as well as having an additional row and larger keys.

One small issue for me (and many more I guess) is that I've only been able to find keyboards with English layout. Has anyone been able to find different layouts (Swedish/Nordic in my case)?
The keys can be remapped, I know, but it still looks wrong :)


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