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hagiz 2014-01-30 17:24

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
OK. I'm so getting this, screw Norwegian letters, I'll convert to English.

MaemoUser 2014-01-30 17:28

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
This is awesome :). Very very cool.

stefanmohl 2014-01-30 18:08

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
On my (very old) Ericsson p800, the keyboard only had English keys, but software added the missing characters. An example for Swedish keys (some experimentation will likely find better ways): long-press o for 'ö', long-press a for 'ä', and long-press, extra-click a for 'å'. Does the software provide something like this?

It really is important that the special characters are available in some way, since without them many languages can not be written (the extra characters are often truly letters in their own right, not just variants of other letters).

mscion 2014-01-30 18:09

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
I completely agree with Maemouser. What you are doing is really cool. Actually, why limit yourself to Jolla Phone? I would love to have a hwkb for my galaxy note! (using bt of course).

kimmoli 2014-01-30 18:37

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanmohl (Post 1409850)
: long-press o for 'ö', long-press a for 'ä', and long-press, extra-click a for 'å'. Does the software provide something like this?

something will be figured out... but the onscreen kbd will be easily available for very special keys.

Kotka 2014-01-30 18:42

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
Can bind any key what ever I want?

kimmoli 2014-01-30 19:00

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotka (Post 1409856)
Can bind any key what ever I want?

atm it is fixed (hardcoded in the sw) but it should evolve to such a system where user can modify bindings..
Maybe some early version has few different to select from. AZERTY and ÅÄÖÆØß seems to be most requested ones.

i don't know yet how tight dirkvl has made the dimensions (afaik they are), but this is one (not-the-best-one) way to change the letter markings.
Another option is to use something like Brother P-Touch Label printer with white-on-black to make your own.

(just ideas)

kimmoli 2014-01-30 22:40

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:30 --video in first post
 
http://www.jollausers.com/2014/01/wo...-teaser-video/

marsch 2014-01-30 23:27

Re: Designing and building QWERTY OtherHalf
 
Sorry to dig out this old post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1378975)
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3. I cannot order from farnell (only for companies)

This is not true anymore. To my knowlegde they deliver stuff to private persons since beginning of 2013. This has not been the case before (already ordered myself stuff privately there, while formerly using https://hbe-shop.de/).

Mentalist Traceur 2014-01-30 23:42

Re: [WIP] Producing Qwerty OtherHalf --pre-ordering started! --order counter:22
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmoli (Post 1409858)
atm it is fixed (hardcoded in the sw) but it should evolve to such a system where user can modify bindings..

In my book the ideal thing in the long run is that it works with xkb (or some equivalent if SailfishOS isn't using X, I don't pay attention to these things anymore... even if it takes ripping apart SailfishOS to add such components). I would work to make the outputs from the hardware keyboard processed at the same level of abstraction as a Linux desktop computer normally processes a keyboard - with xkb somewhere in the middle deciding what physical key maps to what character.


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