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andreas1 2013-12-17 12:58
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wout.martens (Post 1397601)
Since the latest update i cant view images anymore in gallery.
Opening the gallery does bring me the thumbnails but clicking an item doesnt bring up the image. It loads for a couple of seconds but doesnt show anything. Clicking the screen will give me the menu to share and pully gives me the ambience but the image is never shown.

I'm the first one :-) ?

edit: Only in the photos section it doesnt work. Facebook works...
Seems that after reboot you can do whatever with those pics, like modify etc and you see the pic. U just Dont see it when clicking from thumbnail.

wout.martens 2013-12-17 13:02
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Yes, you've the same?

aegis 2013-12-17 13:24
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
This morning on the way in to work I was listening to music over a bluetooth Nokia BH-221 (which is now acceptably loud even when not at max volume compared to my N9).

However, at the same time I got a call. The music wasn't interrupted and the call ringtone went through the phone's speaker. By the time I'd worked out the unfamiliar ringtone was coming from my pocket, I missed the call so I don't know if the call would have gone over the headset or phone.

IIRC the N9 used to switch bluetooth profiles from A2DP headphones to bluetooth headset mode. Maybe that's not happening?

edit: Just tested this again in the office.

So what happens is that...

1) the music on the headphones stops.
2) the Jolla plays the First One ringtone (with people cheering), which sounded like the music track I was playing.
3) the Nokia BH-221 plays the Nokia ringtone!
4) the call goes through the BH-221 just fine.

What used to happen with my N9 was both the N9 and the headset played my chosen ringtone. The Jolla/BH-221 combo plays two different ringtones.

Hearing the Nokia ringtone again was plain weird. ;-)

jsiren 2013-12-17 13:25
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsiren (Post 1397473)
Google accounts keep logging out.
This may have to do with switching from WLAN to 3G and back. It doesn't happen every time, but a change of IP address seems to be a good trigger. Sometimes a gear icon appears in notifications, but even this is not reliable: sometimes I just suspect something and check. Maybe the notification would have appeared in due course.

maluka 2013-12-17 14:22
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wout.martens (Post 1397601)
Since the latest update i cant view images anymore in gallery.
Opening the gallery does bring me the thumbnails but clicking an item doesnt bring up the image. It loads for a couple of seconds but doesnt show anything. Clicking the screen will give me the menu to share and pully gives me the ambience but the image is never shown.

I'm the first one :-) ?

edit: Only in the photos section it doesnt work. Facebook works...
Same here.

jsiren 2013-12-17 14:29
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Two more, sorry about spamming the thread...

I just got a call. The phone was on the table, and I had a BT headset. I selected Answer on the top menu, but heard nothing on the headset. I did hear my friend quietly on the phone speaker. I had to tap the headset icon to get on with the call. This has happened before, but I had already forgotten about it. The headset is Jabra Wave+. Answering with the headset button works as expected.

Edit: forgot the other half :D The browser seems to sometimes ignore textareas, i.e. they cannot be activated for writing. Or else I'm spamming too much ;)

aegis 2013-12-17 14:30
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
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Just did

pkcon install htop

in terminal which worked fine and now I've my favourite top clone but I've also got a blank icon on the 'desktop' for htop.

Manatus 2013-12-17 14:31
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Gallery bug me too. Seems that all old images under Camera-directory do not get shown in gallery nor under camera. Only thumbnails. You can edit them in gallery through tumbnails, and any new pictures are shown ok.

Milhouse 2013-12-17 14:35
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
My second day with Jolla and I need to get this off my chest...

Email Bug: You only get a single email alert for the first new email, then no alerts for subsequent new emails until you read the first. This was a bug in Harmattan, so disappointing to see that after 2+ years of waiting, Jolla have seen fit to repeat the same mistakes.

Notes Bug: Notes app will hang if you open the context menu on a note then dismiss the menu without selecting a menu item - app is unresponsive thereafter.

Google account bug: Google account keeps signing out several times in 2 days now, requiring re-authentication. Pretty sure there was a similar bug for this in Harmattan too...

Twitter: Event feed shows only the last 10 tweets - this is pretty hopeless, why not the last 100 which is a much more reasonable number to show? Also, there is no conversation context when selecting a tweet to read, again this makes it far less usable as a way to access Twitter. And once again, Harmattan had these same problems (though it would at least show a greater number of tweets than just 10).

Web browser: Is... bad. The UI with the blue bar is really quite nasty, and the fact the browser always re-opens the last web site is unforgivable - since the only way to search the web is to open the browser, you end up wasting valuable data re-opening the last web site (which you don't want) before you can enter your new search. How about an option to use a blank "home" page? Also, without landscape support, rendering in portrait looks very bad - pretty sure there are some major font issues going on (not surprising with Gecko). The Harmattan Webkit browser was way better, particularly in portrait.

Virtual Keyboard: No long presses to access symbols, punctuation and numbers - WTF?! The Jolla vkb is possibly one of the worst (ie. most basic, limited) vkb's I've used in a long while.

People app bug: No way to ignore (filter out) SMS contacts. I had to put my SIM into an old phone to remove all the SIM contacts that "People" insisted on showing to me.

Fonts: The font used for icon titles is horrible and spindly, it looks like crap. Really, crap. Thicken up the strokes, please.

Icons: The icon for "People" is really cheesy and not suitable if your contacts contain mostly business people rather than family. It's an inappropriate icon and should be changed for something more generic. This may sound petty, but this isn't a childs toy, however that's exactly what it looks like. On the subject of "People", why has this changed from "Contacts"? What if my "People" app is actually full of businesses? Daft name for the contacts app.


There are some things that are nice about Sailfish (eg. covers), but unfortunately there are also a fairly large number of application design decisions that haven't really progressed from Harmattan days and now 2 years on, that's just not acceptable. Several of the apps are very basic, and have certainly regressed in terms of functionality since the days of Harmattan (no push Google email?! No native Skype?)

I've owned every Internet Tablet, N900 and N9/N950, and it pains me to say that Jolla is not showing the kind of progress one might expect after these 2 years. Maybe it's because the OS is still beta software, though personally I'd describe it as alpha, but I do really, really hope there are a bunch of major functionality improvements just weeks away. There has to be if this is to be taken seriously. Communicating these impending updates (what is coming etc.) to set expectations is critical for Jolla to maintain interest as right now, Sailfish and Jolla is actually a step or two back from Harmattan and N9 in terms of functionality and usability. And I really didn't think that would be possible as we enter 2014.

wout.martens 2013-12-17 15:09
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Phone app - showing the last action with a contact is nice but unable to select which action to perform next is wrong. If we can only make phonecalls from this app than please only show the history in calls and leave sms out. If we can perform more actions from the phone app, I'm happy to see the updates coming... (eg. clicking the contact gives the options to call / text / mail) instead of directly calling...

jaark 2013-12-17 15:11
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 1397660)
I've owned every Internet Tablet, N900 and N9/N950, and it pains me to say that Jolla is not showing the kind of progress one might expect after these 2 years.

Totally agree. I knew it was going to be a bit rough round the edges, but I am actually feeling kinda dissappointed. In it's current state it canot replace my existing phone :(

Also, I cannot find any way to change the 'from' details in an email. It seems to leave it up to the server to add the domain name to the address and this is incorrect.

DeeGee 2013-12-17 16:02
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1397617)
This morning on the way in to work I was listening to music over a bluetooth Nokia BH-221 (which is now acceptably loud even when not at max volume compared to my N9).

However, at the same time I got a call. The music wasn't interrupted and the call ringtone went through the phone's speaker. By the time I'd worked out the unfamiliar ringtone was coming from my pocket, I missed the call so I don't know if the call would have gone over the headset or phone.

IIRC the N9 used to switch bluetooth profiles from A2DP headphones to bluetooth headset mode. Maybe that's not happening?

edit: Just tested this again in the office.

So what happens is that...

1) the music on the headphones stops.
2) the Jolla plays the First One ringtone (with people cheering), which sounded like the music track I was playing.
3) the Nokia BH-221 plays the Nokia ringtone!
4) the call goes through the BH-221 just fine.

What used to happen with my N9 was both the N9 and the headset played my chosen ringtone. The Jolla/BH-221 combo plays two different ringtones.

Hearing the Nokia ringtone again was plain weird. ;-)
Same happened with my Nokia Essence (BH-610), so the first time I was bit wtf. Apparently Jolla just sends some message to the headset that call is coming in and the headset plays it's own internal ringtone...

jsiren 2013-12-17 16:09
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeGee (Post 1397714)
Same happened with my Nokia Essence (BH-610), so the first time I was bit wtf. Apparently Jolla just sends some message to the headset that call is coming in and the headset plays it's own internal ringtone...
Ah, that. It happened with my Jabra as well. Not a problem, but it was somewhat amusing to hear two different ringtones at the same time. :D

jsiren 2013-12-17 16:36
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wout.martens (Post 1397679)
Phone app - showing the last action with a contact is nice but unable to select which action to perform next is wrong. If we can only make phonecalls from this app than please only show the history in calls and leave sms out. If we can perform more actions from the phone app, I'm happy to see the updates coming... (eg. clicking the contact gives the options to call / text / mail) instead of directly calling...
A long press gives a context menu, have you tried that?

Kabouik 2013-12-17 16:58
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
# Things that do not work properly so far (got it yesterday evnening and barely used it at work today, so experience not quite extensive):

1. Can't use SSH through USB, works properly through WiFi (easier than on N9, by the way);

2. a problem with importing contacts from a merged .vcf file: some contacts are not imported although the Jolla sees them; working on it with a sailor and already some progress;

3. pictures in Gallery do not show up: I just get the blurred wallpaper from the current ambience, unless I tap to show the Gallery menu, then trigger the pulley menu to edit the picture, then I can see it in the bottom part of the screen (or the right part if I'm in landscape);

4. in presence screen (Events/Status of accounts), multiple accounts cannot be distinguished, but it will apparently be fixed in a next update;

5. setting multiple instant messaging accounts of the same and/or sending message to a contact with multiple account of the same type is really confusing: no mean to know which identity is being used, not which contact's account the message will be sent to; fix is coming in a future update too;

6. not a bug, but why not showing battery level and connectivity status on the lockscreen? Currently you have to start a bottom swipe to see it below the clock, but I don't see the point. Battery level and connectivity status are the most useful information in a smartphone status bar, and even if I like the idea that Sailfish does not need statusbar, here both types of information have no dedicated screen: battery and connectivity status are between the lock screen and the multitask screen, but not permanently shown on any of those. It would fit perfectly below the clock shown on lockscreen (in addition to the flick feature of course).



# Things that I know/hope are going to happen and I'm looking forward to using them:

1. Calendar sync;

2. MMS;

3. search by terms in eMail app;

4. apps and connection switch buttons set as favorites in the Settings application accessible from another - more convenient - place (plus it would allow closing the settings app), like from a swipe right to left on the multitask view (and let's say the left to right swipe is dedicated to ambiences, instead of both directions);

5. a way to show multiple pages of 9 covers, either by a special gesture or a page number that could be clicked or scrolled, perhaps using the gesture for favorite ambiences that would be easy enough to chose from a pulley menu on the lock screen;

6. I see no pulley menu to change ambiences from the lockscreen, thought it was there in the videos;

7. flasher!

anidel 2013-12-17 17:00
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
One issue I found: set Alarm at, say, 7.40am and it shows as set at 8.40am albeit it properly fires off at 7.40am

I'm in the UK.

And to add to Point 4 above, the quick access bar (i.e. the four quick apps available from the Task Manager) also disappear when you scroll to the app list. It'd be nice to have them show as well.

jsiren 2013-12-17 18:39
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
I honestly can't remember if I've mentioned this, so sorry if I'm repeating myself: FLV videos are downloaded and played back as audio only. Flash audio (onepixel player) doesn't work. (This one's partly on me: I'm the web admin of a particular site that uses the onepixel player on Drupal to play mp3 files, so maybe I should look for a fat^H^H^Hflash-free alternative. There are still other sites using Flash, though.)

Silwer 2013-12-17 19:12
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Android Skype voice calls use only loudspeaker.

mrsellout 2013-12-17 23:35
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
I'm having some difficulties with the 3g internet connection.

I'm with Vodafone UK, and had to manually enter the APN settings. This led to the cellular internet working. After a while this has gotten disconnected and can't get reconnected.

This happened yesterday (day 1 with my Jolla), and again today after I reset to factory condition.

While the settings were wrong and I attempted to make a connection, the 'connection failed' notification would appear, and when successful the 'connected' one would flash across. However in the current state no banner appears at all. Also, when I try to use the browser with both the WLAN and mobile internet 'disabled' from settings, only the WLAN option is presented. Strangely while 'peeking' to see the connection status, the 3G icon shows a healthy signal.

This occurred before yesterday's update, and persists after.I have developer mode activated, but not the updates within that dialog.


Is using dmesg the way forward to diagnose this, and if so what's the command I need to issue?

Matti 2013-12-18 06:10
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
I could not register at the Jolla Store with my E-Mail adress, because it has a "_" in it. After changing the "_" to an "-" I could register. Luckily I own both adresses.

michdeskunk 2013-12-18 08:22
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tujutzki (Post 1397578)
FB messages are implemented in the messaging app, just like in N9.
Yep, the N9 had a different kind of screen which made the low power mode / clock etz. possible. The same isnīt technically possible with Jollaīs screen, although an Android type Glance-feature might be possible.
What do you mean by "support notification"? Update notification for the app or notifications when a message is received? The latter do exist, but at least at the moment you have to have whatsapp open for them to appear.
i didn't see FB messages.. in the messages menu there is only New Message.. poor functions
and for receive whatsapp messages i need the app opened
why jolla haven't done some important app by his hand?? (like skype, whatsapp ecc..)

michdeskunk 2013-12-18 08:26
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
others missing or issue:
- wap connection runs alone without a user request
- in camera you cannot zoom in/out, hideous

juiceme 2013-12-18 08:29
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1397748)
# Things that do not work properly so far (got it yesterday evnening and barely used it at work today, so experience not quite extensive):

1. Can't use SSH through USB, works properly through WiFi (easier than on N9, by the way);

3. pictures in Gallery do not show up: I just get the blurred wallpaper from the current ambience, unless I tap to show the Gallery menu, then trigger the pulley menu to edit the picture, then I can see it in the bottom part of the screen (or the right part if I'm in landscape);

I have had no problems using ssh either over WLAN or over USB, ever.

I have not had any gallery problems either but maybe this is realted to the bug @wout.martens reported earlier, that he qwa unable to access pictures in the gallery?

I am now on 1.0.1.12 but neither I have had problems with any of the earlier releases...

Kabouik 2013-12-18 09:19
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1397999)
I have had no problems using ssh either over WLAN or over USB, ever.

I have not had any gallery problems either but maybe this is realted to the bug @wout.martens reported earlier, that he qwa unable to access pictures in the gallery?

I am now on 1.0.1.12 but neither I have had problems with any of the earlier releases...
The issue with Gallery is definitely the same yes. It seems a number of users with the last Sailfish version are concerned, yet no all. I don't know what is wrong, I did not really get into tweaking yet.

The same applies to Play store: I know it is not officially supported, but it crashes right after I try to launch it although I followed the same guide as others (with root privileges too). I'm not alone in this case either.

As for USB ssh, could you tell me the exact way of doing it? Connecting the Jolla to my W8.1 computer did not install any driver, and regardless of whether I use "Developer" or "Connection" USB mode, enable the ssh remote access in Developer Mode settings, and try to connect from Filezilla using nemo/password on the given IP, I get a time out error. Works flawlessly when tryng to ssh over WiFI through Filezilla sftp.

Tujutzki 2013-12-18 09:25
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by michdeskunk (Post 1397994)
i didn't see FB messages.. in the messages menu there is only New Message..
When you choose the New Message and type in the contact you want to send the message to, it shows the accounts/phone numbers of that person. Then you can choose how to send the message. Later on, when you have the conversation showing in the message app, you can change the way you send the message easily in the conversation itself (press the FB/message/etc. button on the right).

cquence 2013-12-18 10:16
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Setting up an alarm in the clock application works as expected and the alarm rings at the correct time. The problem is in the overview screen where all the alarms are displayed, the time of all the alarms is advanced by one hour.

I have switched on the Automatic Update setting for Date/time at some point so I thought this might be related. When I disabled automatic update for date/time the phone has changed my timezone to Finland/Helsinki.

I was expecting that changing it back to the correct timezone (GMT) should fix the 1hr offset in the alarm display. This did not have an effect since the timezone is now correct but all the alarms are still displayed as 1hr later in the overview screen.

Another piece of info: While the Automatic update for date/time was on i have done a SW upgrade from ver 1.0.1.11 to 1.0.1.12. I am not sure if this upgrade is at all related.

juiceme 2013-12-18 11:05
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1398026)
As for USB ssh, could you tell me the exact way of doing it? Connecting the Jolla to my W8.1 computer did not install any driver, and regardless of whether I use "Developer" or "Connection" USB mode, enable the ssh remote access in Developer Mode settings, and try to connect from Filezilla using nemo/password on the given IP, I get a time out error. Works flawlessly when tryng to ssh over WiFI through Filezilla sftp.
I'd say the problem is there, underlined in cursive red :D

I cannot say for myself as I dont have any Windowsies, but I have been told that to get USB networking to run on those you'd need to install NDIS drivers...

pycage 2013-12-18 11:05
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1397896)
I'm having some difficulties with the 3g internet connection.

I'm with Vodafone UK, and had to manually enter the APN settings. This led to the cellular internet working. After a while this has gotten disconnected and can't get reconnected.
This sounds like Vodafone's fault. You should ask them to push a configuration SMS to your phone. Normally this is done automatically when you put a SIM into a phone, but Vodafone didn't do this apparently for some reason (maybe because it's not a device sold by them?).
Normally you never have to enter APN settings manually.

Kabouik 2013-12-18 12:04
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1398084)
I'd say the problem is there, underlined in cursive red :D

I cannot say for myself as I dont have any Windowsies, but I have been told that to get USB networking to run on those you'd need to install NDIS drivers...
Thanks. Indeed that was what I was worried about. As stated, connecting the N9 did install a driver, but nothing happens with the Jolla.

In case anybody knows what I should do (apart from throwing Windows by the window and installing Linux; I already do that on a regular basis but always end up reinstalling Windows for a few softwares that have no proper replacement (not as good)), please, don't hesitate.

djselbeck 2013-12-18 12:18
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Anyone having problems with Google Talk and XMPP over mobile data?

I cannot reconnect after sometime.

I get this error on dbus:

Code:
signal sender=:1.62 -> dest=(null destination) serial=1641 path=/org/freedesktop/Telepathy/Connection/gabble/jabber/gmail_2ecom_xxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxx; interface=org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Connection; member=ConnectionError
  string "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Error.NetworkError"
  array [
      dict entry(
        string "debug-message"
        variant            string "G_IO_ERROR_FAILED (#0): Error receiving data: Connection reset by peer"
      )
  ]
error sender=:1.62 -> dest=:1.51 error_name=org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Error.Disconnected reply_serial=853
  string "Disconnected before blocked contacts were retrieved"
Now my question is, if this is a bug in sailfish or if my mobile operator is blocking xmpp because over wifi I have no problems.

Milhouse 2013-12-18 12:31
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Check your Google account is authenticated (go to Settings -> Accounts -> Google account) and check that you are signed in, my Jolla keeps signing me out several times a day, requiring me to re-authenticate.

kpblxa 2013-12-18 12:52
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Gmail, when selecting new email notification from notification screen, email app is loaded however no email content is shown. have to go back to inbox and then open email to view contents

djselbeck 2013-12-18 13:03
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Yes I'm authenticated

Milhouse 2013-12-18 13:27
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kpblxa (Post 1398153)
Gmail, when selecting new email notification from notification screen, email app is loaded however no email content is shown. have to go back to inbox and then open email to view contents
Apparently it's a known problem (when opening just one email from a notification), and will be fixed in a future update. Pretty sure a very similar bug existed on either N9 or N900.

szopin 2013-12-18 14:11
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Code:
grep -H -r "XYZ" /
Restarts the device

Edit: mc through ssh, mc/connection locks up (search * starting from / with content XYZ, which should be more or less the same as above), fingerterm with mc, mc lockup, bare grep from fingerterm (sudo or nemo) insta powerdown after a while and reboot

szopin 2013-12-18 14:16
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
After enabling developer mode, sometimes when plugging in the charger the phone offers: PC connect/PC connect developer mode/Charging options. I believe the first time it did that I selected PC Connect mode without noticing the weirdness and the device did not get fried, now paying attention which cable I'm plugging in

EDIT: not easily reproducible, happened after reboot, subsequent cable insertions result in correct straight to charging behaviour

VDVsx 2013-12-18 17:04
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by michdeskunk (Post 1397499)
i add:

- in the notifications screen e-mails don't appear and for update e-mail you have to enter in email application
you mean your scheduling sync is not working properly ? because email notifications are supported for sure.

Quote:
Originally Posted by michdeskunk (Post 1397499)
- account email like hotmail does not exist and created from email account does not work (there are less accounts)
Are you sure you entered correct settings ? hotmail works fine for me, I can configure it using "Email" or "Microsoft Exchange" accounts.

VDVsx 2013-12-18 17:05
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 1398176)
Apparently it's a known problem (when opening just one email from a notification), and will be fixed in a future update. Pretty sure a very similar bug existed on either N9 or N900.
Don't remember similar bug in N9 for sure not the same cause :)

VDVsx 2013-12-18 17:09
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 1397660)
My second day with Jolla and I need to get this off my chest...

Email Bug: You only get a single email alert for the first new email, then no alerts for subsequent new emails until you read the first. This was a bug in Harmattan, so disappointing to see that after 2+ years of waiting, Jolla have seen fit to repeat the same mistakes.
This does not seem like a bug to me, personally I would be very annoyed if my device beeps for each email I get, but if there are users that want this, it can be considered as a setting, very unlikely a default.

Milhouse 2013-12-18 17:42
Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 1398286)
This does not seem like a bug to me, personally I would be very annoyed if my device beeps for each email I get, but if there are users that want this, it can be considered as a setting, very unlikely a default.
Are you unhappy that your phone beeps every time you receive an SMS? Why should email be treated differently?

The problem being that if you are out of hearing range when the first email arrives, you never know you've got a stack of new emails waiting to be read until you pick up your phone and look at the lock screen, as it doesn't alert you to the arrival of subsequent emails. I'd be happy for it to be an option, though I really don't see why the current behaviour is the default, no other mobile device behaves like this, only N9 and Jolla. I class it as a bug as it's nonsensical behaviour if you depend on email notifications. Obviously it shouldn't beep 5 times if 5 emails arrive together (it should just beep once), but if emails arrive individually, then each arrival should generate a beep/alert.

Adding an option "Alert for all new emails" should be a piece of cake, I've only been waiting 2 years.... :)


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