Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

No official RFC for email signature as far as I know, if you find one I would be interested :)
Is done like you say, seems to works fine for me in all mails I use, I've the dashes and a space after.
in the message source for e.g: SGVsbG8NCi0tIA0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IEpvbGxh (covert base 64 to ascii).

Edit: I know that there is a proposed RFC, and that's what we are following since is commonly used, however not official yet :): http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676#section-4.3

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

It will accept vcf files with surnames like that, even when spelled like "Richthofen, von". (The only way I found to sort properly by Last name.)

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

I still have problem with SMTP using port 465 and SSL.

what does "Problem with sync" actually mean? Is there some kind of fix to get this working?

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

What type of authentication are you using ?

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

The "Problem with sync" occurs on sending e-mail from IMAP accounts. Exchange and Google mail accounts can send mail.
I have tried different settings for authentication like TLS, SSL, different ports. Mails stay in the Outbox, which keeps "Updating" forever.
In another thread this sync problem is being discussed as well. For me it means I cannot rely on the Jolla right now and have to keep my N9 at hand. I asked care@jolla.com for help yesterday evening.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

same for me. (haven't tried google mail or outlook, though)

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Another issue with Jolla. Can not authenticate with Finnish Mobile ID.

I've got the SIM with the certificate and am able to authenticate with the SIM and my Lumia. With Jolla the authentication request message never arrives for me to input my authentication PIN. Thus the service I'm trying to authenticate to throws a timeout because it does not get the authentication response.

I don't think this is an issue with the service, it has never failed for me with Lumia.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Email is sent via SMTP, IMAP is for receiving. You don't know the correct settings for your server ? Do you have it working in some other device ?
Next update fixes a bunch of problems related to SMTP authentication, but would be good to know what is your setup in order to verify if is a know issue for not.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Full settings in harmattan on N9:

Secure: SSL
serveraddress: mail2.bahnhof.se
Port: 465
Verification: Standard Password

in SailfishOS on my Jolla:

Secure: SSL
serveraddress: mail2.bahnhof.se
Port: 465
Auth: Password

Hmm just think of something here:

My provider, Bahnhof, only allow SMTP when I am at my home wifi. And I am ATM. But it seems Jolla Phone is active on 3G and wifi in the same time (both icons shown on sleep screen)? Could it be that Jolla Phone try send over 3G even when Wifi is active?

Edit: tested disable 3G did not fix issue.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

It should prefer wifi, unless is a bug, you can try to disable 3G data and check if it works after that.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

3G connection is not an issue here - fir one, 3G connection is not active on Jolla, and second, I never had a problem connecting to my GMX.DE account over 3G with my N900.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Hi VDVsx
I resetted the device and started again from scratch.
Opening the PDF works fine now. File was coming from MfE account.

So don't know why it was not opening the file before but now it works.
Thanks for supporting.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Well I can't say if it's a bug or not but it worked on my N9 but it does not work on Jolla.

If you start typing a text message to a person but then leave it and begin typing another text to a different person the written text would stay. Now with Jolla if you don't send the text off and switch to read or write someone else your all of your written text will be gone :(

N9 kept the typed in text even if you turned off or rebooted the phone.

Any news on when Jolla is opening together.jolla.com portal?

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

@VDVsx
May be it was already reported, but I want to confirm it then: email client syncing is sporadic. I use 2 IMAP accounts and one Exchange. Exchange set to "Always up to date", IMAP to 5 minutes update period. I can see a mail is received in my Exchange account on my N9 and laptop at the same time, but not on Jolla. All devices connected to same Wi-Fi network. Also IMAP accounts are NOT updated every 5 minutes, but some (it seems)random periods.

PS. My device is ALWAYS connected be to mobile or Wi-Fi network.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

IMAP is a know issue, it's related to align timers to save battery.
Exchange in "Always up to date" should work fine when inside the peak time and peak days, is that a standard Exchange or some third-party implementation(Zimbra, google apps for business, ...) ?

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

There's definitely something funny going on with timers, as the command-line sleep utility seems to sleep much longer than intended, especially if the device is saving power. Verifying with perl sleep:
# perl -e 'printf("%d\n", sleep(10));'
117
i.e. a 10 second sleep took 117 seconds of wall clock time. This after disabling tohd to save power. I began to wonder about this when powertop runs never seemed to finish, or even start (preceded by sleep 120...) :confused:

EDIT: when the system is not idle (i.e. interactive and screen is on), the sleep timing seems to be accurate to the second. However, it starts to be off as soon as the screen goes dark.

Started and completed while the screen is interactive:
# perl -e 'printf("%d\n", sleep(10));'
10

Started one second (=reaction time) after the screen goes dark:
# perl -e 'printf("%d\n", sleep(10));'
17

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

@VDVsx
It is MS Exchange server.
As matter of fact approx. 1 hour ago it stopped syncing on Jolla. It was working OK on N9 and N900 in the same time. Disabling=>Enabling the account solved it.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

When the device is in deep suspend, nothing is actually running. Things dealing with sync (for instance) wake the device up from suspend, as does network activity, alarms, and so on.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

OK, so the perl and bash sleep functions aren't built to wake the system from deep suspend.

As I asked in the other thread: Powertop suggests enabling Power Aware CPU scheduler, echo '1' > '/sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_mc_power_savings' - do you think that would make any difference?

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

While suspended timers like sleep is suspended too. If you want to make software that does something while suspended, you should use https://github.com/nemomobile/libiphb as that is currently the only thing which periodically can be used to wake from suspend. In the future we might offer somekind of Qt/QML API, bug no eta avail currently.

Having said that, please avoid using that, as we really want to save power and not have too many apps waking up from suspend periodically :)

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Yes, I can see the power saving is quite successful :D Thanks for the info.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Is it possible to enable it in sshd? I keep having to tap on the device to wake it up to continue working while sshed in, only way currently is to put 10 minutes on screen timeout but that surely drains more power.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Device doesn't go to suspend state if you keep it on usb cable, it only goes to suspend if cable is not connected. (As there is no need to suspend when device is getting external power).

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

A bit about multiple calendars ...

1) Have 1 exchange account and it's calendar name is "default". Than local calendar is also "default" -- is there an option to rename calendars? ATM only different color can be assigned.

2) Local calendar is useless -- at least on my device I cannot create event and save it to local calendar.

Steps to repeat: disable exchange calendar, create event and there is no option to mark, on which calendar event should appear. Save event and check calendar -- event is not there. Enable exchange, check calendar -- event is there and with color, assigned to exchange calendar.

I have no idea how behaves if there is no exchange calendar.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

It certainly would be nice if ssh connections could be more responsive when the device screen is off - ssh over WiFi on a Jolla has all the characteristics of a connection with very significant packet loss, requiring several stabs at the keyboard before anything appears in the console.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

@sponka
When I created my Exchange account in Jolla the calendar associated with it was correctly named after the account name. After reboot the name disappeared.
I also can not find way to create event to specific calendar. I also can not find a way to import .ics file to Jolla calendar.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

I havent noticed such behaviour, maybe you should buy a new wifi AP with bigger antennas.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Just a little bug: gpg2 --gen-keys doesn't work, because there are no 'pinentry' packets available in the repositories.

Must import keys.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

That's a bug in the UI(already fixed), Exchange main calendar is should be called "Microsoft Exchange" and other calendar in the same account should display their server name.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

I can confirm the "problem with sync" issue, exactly as reported. I tried to pinpoint the error extensively, it is not auth-related, authorization happens, but then imap replies with "that's all she said" and dies. UI shows updating seemingly forever and then "problem with sync"

I also had a case of jolla-email doing 100% on both processors, I have a photo of htop, if you need that for forensics please ask.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Something probably very important: The gtalk status message appears inside the conversation as an SMS message.

If the status message reads like something one would write in an SMS it might cause misunderstandings and awkward conversations

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

I can confirm similar behaviour. When transferring files via scp when Jolla screen is OFF, transfers generally become sluggish or even stalled.
I have noticed that if I try pinging my stby Jolla, I usually do not get any response and when I wake up the screen by double tap I see pings coming back from Jolla immediately.

PS. My router is in the same room, quite new and powerful TP-link wr941nd

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

No. I like this and assume it is intentional and should remain so, it means the pulley menu remains when you release you finger from the display.

However the distance the pulley moves in relation to your finger move could be upped. I sometime use the pulley menu from halfway down the screen and run out of real estate to pull to the top item :(

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

I agree, it's great as it is. You can even just do a fast gesture like a swipe top to down, without any accuracy required, but from the middle of the screen. It will trigger the pulley menu and show all options, and they will stay displayed even if your finger does not touch the screen anymore. You can then select options in the pulley menu by tapping if you want. Nothing mandatory here, and I really like this feature because it gives you the choice without any cost on the other method, and allows showing all options. I usually use the Pulley menu the regular way, but this two-step way can be really helpful if you know you won't be accurate for some reason (walking, akward way of holding the phone) or whenever it's more convenient to divide the behavior in two steps, who knows. I myself used it several times although I hardly find a definite situation.

I like it as it is currently, I find the sensitivity quite well balanced, but I guess it's a matter of users. Perhaps a "sensitivity slider" in settings could be useful. Perhaps not a priority though, and too many options can sometimes be a bad thing.

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Does anyone know how to help me on the following matter? Thanks in advance!

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

There seems to be little bug in the notes application:

1) I have three notes with text in it
2) Long press the second or the third note and select "move to top" (I don't know the exact english text there as I'm on another language)

-> None of the notes can be edited any more. The only solution is to close notes and open it again.

BTW: I would very much appreciate it
- if a box with a note were as broad as the whole screen in portrait mode
- if one could scroll the content of the box without having to enter the box with the note

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

def not a good idea I simply because most the time youer not logged in and turning off sleep because sshd is running is wrong. better solution when logged in would be 1 make sure charger pluged, as rainisto said, if using it more than screen timeout.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

check smtp problem thread there is a fix for many of us who had problem with sync error :)

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

My WiFi is fine, problem is Jolla/Sailfish.

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

Sorry, don't agree. Charger is a workaround not really a solution. Until hwkb OH materializes sshing with N900 is the only option to do anything on the device on the go (fingerterm might be ok to issue one command or two, edit a file with it? nightmare with the overlay switching all the time, maybe in portrait, still you'll be able to do it 5 times faster by ssh). Even compile on the go is not an option as it will be halted/suspended (torrents? http server? many usage cases are not at all possible with Jolla that would fly on the N900). Really hope current aggressive power saving is because of the NFC bug (idling with wifi on/checking email every 5 minutes - 71% battery left after 25h, before 'fix' would be almost flat by now) short deadlines and last minute tuning and will be toned down (or some workaround provided, or do we have to switch to android 'multitasking' now and run fingerterm as service to prevent it from going suspended? I kinda liked maemo multitasking and was expecting same from Jolla, or is this normal behaviour on N9?)

Re: SailfishOS bugs and glitches
 

So this is new:

I come home, check my Jolla, it's on mobile network.
I check ten minutes later, still on mobile, hasn't switched to WIFI.

I select 'settings', settings shows a loading screen and then disappears again. After a few tries it finally opens.

WIFI in the settings is switched off and ->can't be turned on again<-

Mobile Network in the setting tells me it is deactivated. I can tap it and the light in front of the setting goes on, but it STILL tells me it is deactivated.

However, I DO have internet connection, FB App works normally.

I already had this problem once today, and when I turned off the Jolla, a red notification light remained and I couldn't turn it back on, had to remove battery.

Will report if the same happens now.

Edit: Reboot worked fine (maybe it just needed more time to boot again), wifi connected fine. We'll see if that is a reproducable bug.