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strongm 2013-12-09 14:20
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1394019)
people seems to have big problems to read now AGAIN jolla has said you will get device 3-4 weeks after payment. Now how hard can it be to understand that!?
I don't think anyone is having a problem reading. They are working under the impression that has previously been given that preorders were expected to be delivered before general sale to the public started.

It is also fair to say that the "3-4 weeks after payment" phrase was introduced very, very late into proceedings (and was for a while described as a pessimistic estimate by Jolla) - and pretty clearly came about because there was no actual stock available at launch (but Jolla didn't want to own up to that for reasons of their own).

Ozymandias 2013-12-09 14:26
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
The DNA thing isn't really that important for me - look at it this way: As long as they are actively packing and shipping our pre-orders, they can put as many DNA orders into Trucks as they want to - as long as it doesn't affect our shipping speed.

The other way of thinking - "I will not get my order any faster that way but as long as I don't have it, no one else can have it!" seems a bit harsh to me.

Mind you, this is if it *doesn*t slow down our orders :D

mikecomputing 2013-12-09 14:26
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 1394021)
you're right about them beeing still in that timeframe of the 3-4 weeks. But still the *impression* it gives to "ignore" the non-finnish preorders and start selling the Phone in regular (DNA)-stores in Finland is not that good in my opinion. Especially after the whole "I am the First One" campain connected to the preordering.

On the other hand it's still all speculation, we'll see if it holds true on wednesday.
ignored? LOL

dont be so damn childish it just a phone...

strongm 2013-12-09 14:28
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1394023)
now understan this: its bussines its way more important they get as many devices sold as possible or else you can forget about updates for the phone in the future cause jolla dissapear. Now thats why we may seems not get device as fast as operator shop. I personally happy that thw get device out in shop before chrustmas the more sold the better for all un the end!
Sure - but the point is communication. Why have Jolla kept tight-lipped about this, why do they remain tight-lipped about why they had to make the 3-4 week delivery statement, why do they remain tight-lipped about how the priority delivery order is being ignored to deliver to Finland first, why did they not mention that the OS was a beta until November, etc. etc.

None of these are particularly insurmountable issues. But they colour people''s perception. And I'd have thought that a start-up wouldn't really want to alienate their market. Unless of course pre-order people are not really their market ...

MisterMaster 2013-12-09 14:29
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1394025)
I don't think anyone is having a problem reading. They are working under the impression that has previously been given that preorders were expected to be delivered before general sale to the public started.

It is also fair to say that the "3-4 weeks after payment" phrase was introduced very, very late into proceedings (and was for a while described as a pessimistic estimate by Jolla) - and pretty clearly came about because there was no actual stock available at launch (but Jolla didn't want to own up to that for reasons of their own).
So people think that Jolla should do this:

if Jolla ships all first wave preorders by tomorrow(dont know if it will happen) they shouldn't sell to non-preorderers at wednesday?

mikecomputing 2013-12-09 14:30
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pipould (Post 1394020)
Doesn't change a thing, they wont be well seen... I was expecting to get mine at least at the same time as DNA starts to sell them in Finland...
http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=h...ed=0CDsQ9QEwAQ

pipould 2013-12-09 14:31
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1394030)
ignored? LOL

dont be so damn childish it just a phone...
It's not being childish, as said it leaves a bitter taste.

In words, for instance, being a small developer, I am currently porting my apps for BB10 instead of Jolla... Because I consider that if I don't matters much to them, then I do not see why I should give time to a plateform I can't even try for the moment. What you miss is that many of the pre orders are devs and so on...

strongm 2013-12-09 14:31
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias (Post 1394029)
as long as it doesn't affect our shipping speed.
Wouldn't have thought so. I'd assume that the DNA stock was all preallocated to them, and delivered to their own warehouses some days ago.

pipould 2013-12-09 14:32
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1394035)
I won't switch from BB10 to Jolla as main device so I'm far from crying ;)

mikecomputing 2013-12-09 14:35
Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1394031)
Sure - but the point is communication. Why have Jolla kept tight-lipped about this, why do they remain tight-lipped about why they had to make the 3-4 week delivery statement, why do they remain tight-lipped about how the priority delivery order is being ignored to deliver to Finland first, why did they not mention that the OS was a beta until November, etc. etc.

None of these are particularly insurmountable issues. But they colour people''s perception. And I'd have thought that a start-up wouldn't really want to alienate their market. Unless of course pre-order people are not really their market ...
This ridicilous whining about lack of communication is plain garbage!

Whatever they say people here will rant! They had said 3-4 week what more do you need to know?

Do you want them to send a personal message every hour to be happy!?

Now THAT would lead to a lot longer waiting. So stop cry, the fact that they dont update info every second shows that they work hard to deliver before christmas as expected!!!


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