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epmt 2013-12-17 09:16

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1397466)
Jolla response:

Shipment are being handled as follows:
· Finnish pre-orders from first campaign in May.
· Remaining EU pre-orders and second-wave pre-orders.

That is definitely not the order they are following though, if they are trying to imply an order. Second wave orders have shipped while some day 1, wave 1 orders haven't.

catbus 2013-12-17 09:17

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Hmmm...

http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/27/news..._manatdoor.jpg

nieldk 2013-12-17 09:18

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
no, you are not wrong.
my response (look some pages back) from Jolla Care was very similar.

lupastro 2013-12-17 09:22

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1397470)
no, you are not wrong.
my response (look some pages back) from Jolla Care was very similar.

Mine also. A cheap copy-paste trick from the FAQs.

jusE 2013-12-17 09:32

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
received my phone today! Christmas is saved lol, hope you get your phoned soon too!

nieldk 2013-12-17 09:33

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jusE (Post 1397476)
received my phone today! Christmas is saved lol, hope you get your phoned soon too!

congratulations :)

hemiwi 2013-12-17 09:33

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jusE (Post 1397476)
received my phone today! Christmas is saved lol, hope you get your phoned soon too!

Order#? Location? Spreadsheet?

Kiitos - Thanks

ggabriel 2013-12-17 09:41

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Hey, guys,

Do we keep updating the spreadsheet? Or is it only via this form? e.g., status, last date checked, and all that.

bertjefred 2013-12-17 09:44

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397484)
Hey, guys,

Do we keep updating the spreadsheet? Or is it only via this form? e.g., status, last date checked, and all that.

It would be awesome for all of us who are still waiting if everybody keeps updating as many info as possible in the spreadsheet. Thanks!

premnas 2013-12-17 09:46

WTF is going on?
 
It looks like no order after 200001959 is being processed since last friday ... (According to the spreadsheet).
Come on Jolla ! This is not just lack of communication ... This starts looking like a joke and not a very funny one.

bertjefred 2013-12-17 10:06

Re: WTF is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by premnas (Post 1397489)
It looks like no order after 200001959 is being processed since last friday ... (According to the spreadsheet).
Come on Jolla ! This is not just lack of communication ... This starts looking like a joke and not a very funny one.

Let's hope it is the same situation as last week where they shipped a lot of devices and didn't update the shop status until they where delivered.

hemiwi 2013-12-17 10:09

Re: WTF is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bertjefred (Post 1397502)
Let's hope it is the same situation as last week where they shipped a lot of devices and didn't update the shop status until they where delivered.

Hope is the one thing i still have of getting my Jolla before Xmas:cool:

Order#: 32xx - still PAID Country: Finland

0rphu 2013-12-17 10:14

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Hope they didn't run out of phones :eek:. They did run out of special edition Other Halves...

lupastro 2013-12-17 10:18

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0rphu (Post 1397507)
Hope they didn't run out of phones :eek:. They did run out of special edition Other Halves...

Then they got a big fat problem. If I am not getting my Jolla in December (actually the 4 Weeks end for me next Monday), I hope they will compensate us someway (maybe Poppy Red Other Half for all? :D:D:D:D:D:D)

epmt 2013-12-17 10:18

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 0rphu (Post 1397507)
Hope they didn't run out of phones :eek:. They did run out of special edition Other Halves...

The December 12th mail from Jolla said that all the Jollas are in Finland, so I don't think they have run out.

The international text was a little different, as was noted here a few pages back, though.

Anyway, with the poor communications from Jolla, it is hard to say what the exact situation is. Running out of Limited Other Halves certainly was surprising - and a bit ironic to get a "The First One" OH in an after delivery.

Oh well, some first day pre-orders are still unshipped so I guess the macabre joke of The Last One someone made some days back was quite fitting.

Still, I think there is a good chance the orders will ship before Christmas. I just wish the comms were better, include more actual info and not copy-paste-generic-PR-fluff-FAQ kind of stuff.

LordSnick 2013-12-17 10:22

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
It's beginning to smell really fishy. I think they are waiting for more Jollas, as they gave many to DNA. Problem is shipping from China to findland and then out to everyone that is missing a Jolla. Why can't they give us more info?

premnas 2013-12-17 10:24

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSnick (Post 1397513)
It's beginning to smell really fishy. I think they are waiting for more Jollas, as they gave many to DNA. Problem is shipping from China to findland and then out to everyone that is missing a Jolla. Why can't they give us more info?

At this point it would be much more fair to plainly inform the customers so that we could decide whether to wait or to cancel the order ... Seriously if I am not getting the phone by December I will ask for some form of compensation

simon@ 2013-12-17 10:28

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
M Jolla finally arrived!!! :D

Order #1733, shipped to France, "In picking" since 13/12.
However there is no OH.

Updating the spreadsheet.

ggabriel 2013-12-17 10:30

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by premnas (Post 1397515)
At this point it would be much more fair to plainly inform the customers so that we could decide whether to wait or to cancel the order ... Seriously if I am not getting the phone by December I will ask for some form of compensation

Sigh... can we quit the whining, please? I can undestand if people coplain January 1st, but otherwise Jolla said 3-4 weeks and then they informed "in December". We are kind of half way through it, so just be patient.

Has anybody transitioned from Paid to something else recently? Or has anybody received their Jolla and wasn't expecting it? That's the kind of things to post in this thread.

FWIW, I want Jolla to deliver my phone through my chimney using Santa as a courier, on the 24th at midnight. And that's exactly at midnight. They can help themselves to milk and biscuits.

EDIT: added please

att 2013-12-17 10:33

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epmt (Post 1397510)
Running out of Limited Other Halves certainly was surprising - and a bit ironic to get a "The First One" OH in an after delivery.

Originally they promised the Limited Other Halves to be send separately at later time, so I was actually surprised that they started to deliver the Limited Other Halves with the phones.

epmt 2013-12-17 10:37

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397519)
Sigh... can we quit the whining? I can undestand if people coplain January 1st, but otherwise Jolla said 3-4 weeks and then they informed "in December". We are kind of half way through it, so just be patient.

Who are you to call people whining? Jolla already failed to respect the priority order. People being concerned and asking for more specific information to alleviate their concerns on the shipping process is not whining. Simply because you are content does not mean everyone else should follow your specs on when and how to express their concerns.

As for the 3-4 weeks, for most people 4 weeks comes up during the Christmas break, and two business days after it the latest for probably a very small minority that paid the last possible day. So I can understand some anxiety when Christmas is only 4 business days away and status stands at Paid. We are well past the middle of 3-4 weeks for most people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397519)
Has anybody transitioned from Paid to something else recently? Or has anybody received their Jolla and wasn't expecting it? That's the kind of things to post in this thread.

Sure, that is useful too. I'm sure people will post when something happens, but it hasn't happened much recently it seems. In the meanwhile, my opinion is other kinds of information is needed as well - seeing as Jolla is apparently not going to provide that info to us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397519)
FWIW, I want Jolla to deliver my phone through my chimney using Santa as a courier, on the 24th at midnight. And that's exactly at midnight. They can help themselves to milk and biscuits.

Hey a logical fallacy veiled in sarcasm! ;)

By the way, I don't think they've run out of Jollas. I think their issue is shipping throughput. I remain hopeful that they can ship all before Christmas.

epmt 2013-12-17 10:39

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by att (Post 1397520)
Originally they promised the Limited Other Halves to be send separately at later time, so I was actually surprised that they started to deliver the Limited Other Halves with the phones.

This is true. However, it would have been one thing to send all LE The Other Halves in one go. Now that most have gotten them in their shipment and only some haven't, it seems a little strange and slightly uncomfortable because those who get them later really weren't in the same dinghy than those did get them earlier.

I mean, it wouldn't matter at all normally, but they did make big hay about "The First Ones". That kind of looses it luster later.

premnas 2013-12-17 10:39

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Communication is not copying and pasting from the FAQ ...
Business is business and they have plenty of room to improve on that ...



Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397519)
Sigh... can we quit the whining, please? I can undestand if people coplain January 1st, but otherwise Jolla said 3-4 weeks and then they informed "in December". We are kind of half way through it, so just be patient.

Has anybody transitioned from Paid to something else recently? Or has anybody received their Jolla and wasn't expecting it? That's the kind of things to post in this thread.

FWIW, I want Jolla to deliver my phone through my chimney using Santa as a courier, on the 24th at midnight. And that's exactly at midnight. They can help themselves to milk and biscuits.

EDIT: added please


v2px 2013-12-17 10:43

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Received my phone a few hours ago. :)
#2..1620, Germany

att 2013-12-17 10:44

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
There is the venting thread if people want to relieve their feelings.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91987

nodevel 2013-12-17 10:47

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397519)
Sigh... can we quit the whining, please? I can undestand if people coplain January 1st, but otherwise Jolla said 3-4 weeks and then they informed "in December". We are kind of half way through it, so just be patient.

No, that is simply not true.
I ordered just in time to get Jolla by December 24th (the end of the 4th week). At least for me, it is huge difference between getting it on December 24rd or sooner and December 25th or later.

The only reason why I have ordered it now (despite some financial difficulties) was to get it for Christmas - otherwise I would do it sometimes in the Spring.

The 'end of December' deadline was announced _after_ I ordered. Knowing the Christmas delivery rush, it makes sense to expect Jolla sent by, say, Thursday, so no, we are not halfway through.

I know it was a risky bet, but I don't think there's anything wrong about expecting the conditions of the order to be fulfilled. So, please, stop with this 'you guys are just whining' attitude (nothing personal against you ggabriel, I mean this in general).
I respect Jolla for what they are doing and I believe in them. What is beyond my mind is why there are so many people trying to silence those who just expect to get the product they ordered in the originally announced timeline...

Exclaimer: I see no point in posting in a sarcastic 'venting' thread. I am just reacting to the post above.

att 2013-12-17 10:48

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epmt (Post 1397525)
This is true. However, it would have been one thing to send all LE The Other Halves in one go. Now that most have gotten them in their shipment and only some haven't, it seems a little strange and slightly uncomfortable because those who get them later really weren't in the same dinghy than those did get them earlier.

I mean, it wouldn't matter at all normally, but they did make big hay about "The First Ones". That kind of looses it luster later.

I see it simply as business decision to save in shipping costs :)

mariusmssj 2013-12-17 10:48

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Thanks for everyone updating the spreadsheet :)

ggabriel 2013-12-17 10:50

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epmt (Post 1397523)
Who are you to call people whining?

I'm nobody, and I'm sorry if I offended you. Whining, complaining, relieving feelings, potatoes, tomatoes. However, I do want to keep this thread on topic. Go to the venting thread to express your feelings.

Anyway, got tired of this (like others I believe). So I'll hang up on the thread+spreadsheet.

Rauha 2013-12-17 10:50

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by premnas (Post 1397526)
Business is business and they have plenty of room to improve on that ...

Mostly dissapointing because I got the impression that they wanted act and run the thing like a seriously taken business. Turns out that its much more like a Freerunner club for Linux phones run by volunteers, apert from corporate style communications where problems dont exist until customers find about them themselves.

Which is fine I guess, just not what I expected.

att 2013-12-17 10:51

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by premnas (Post 1397526)
Communication is not copying and pasting from the FAQ ...
Business is business and they have plenty of room to improve on that ...

That is the industry standard practise. That is what is taught in service trainings and materials. Even Amazon does that.

epmt 2013-12-17 10:54

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1397535)
I'm nobody, and I'm sorry if I offended you. Whining, complaining, relieving feelings, potatoes, tomatoes. However, I do want to keep this thread on topic. Go to the venting thread to express your feelings.

Anyway, got tired of this (like others I believe). So I'll hang up on the thread+spreadsheet.

It does go vice-versa, you could have ranted on the venting thread.

But I personally think it is more useful to keep this thread about Jolla order tracking in general (including all kinds of insight), and much of what some call venting or whining on this thread is actually informative - we get information from various parts of the world about the order status that way. It really helps in getting the bigger picture of what is going on. Relegating that to "whining" or "venting" status, does not - in my opinion - serve the flow of information at all. Instead if proposes to hide actual information.

Just my opinion.

epmt 2013-12-17 10:56

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by att (Post 1397538)
That is the industry standard practise. That is what is taught in service trainings and materials. Even Amazon does that.

Sure they do. And it is very frustrating if you have a specific request that doesn't fall in line with their script.

Then again, Amazon and the likes have industry standard machines of order fulfillment too, which obviously - judging by the results - Jolla does not.

Maybe Jolla should do their comms on the level of their business too. It would, in my opinion, benefit them more than doing the large business comms while doing the small business work.

Emulating industry standard certainly isn't Unlike either.

premnas 2013-12-17 10:57

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Any comment from Cybette would be very much appreciated !
Cybette are you still following this thread ?

epmt 2013-12-17 10:59

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by att (Post 1397533)
I see it simply as business decision to save in shipping costs :)

Sure. But together with not having enough of them it becomes a bit iffy to me.

Not a big deal at all, but takes a tiny sliver of shine off the LE TOH experience.

epmt 2013-12-17 11:00

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by premnas (Post 1397543)
Any comment from Cybette would be very much appreciated !
Cybette are you still following this thread ?

Try making a joke about elves or booze. :p

caprico 2013-12-17 11:08

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Call it whining or not, I don't care. But despite not worrying till now I start to wonder what's going on with order numbers 200001950 (which mine is very close to) upwards. My order status hasn't changed since Nov 25th and is still in being "Paid". We can assume that all with status "Picking" & "Shipping" are on the way to people or already received - so that's fine. But what with the others? Are there new problems Jolla's having?

FedEx could deliver till morning of December 24th - afterwards I'll be gone and have no clue what will happen or what I should do about it. According to Jolla's info incl. info on social media I simply didn't expect AT ALL that delivery would take longer than this date.

Since the very first tweet of Jolla I was sure I would use their platform (back then it wasn't sure there would be a phone), I pre-booked 2 of their phones at first chance (and wore their T-Shirt at first chance ;-) ).

The ONLY mistake I made was following: Being in a completely different time-zone on Monday November 25th 9am central EU time. Even there I tried to hurry and paid the phone while sitting in traffic jam on my N9 using expensive roaming network costs.

So with my story I want to say: Just because I failed paying the phone within the first hours, I'm now punished with days of waiting despite being "A first one".

Yes this is frustrating and I don't want to worry about not being around when FedEx (or who ever) rings the door bell. I kinda start to wish to postpone the delivery till January which resolves the problem of not being home around Christmas time (where I visit family). Worst case I hope I can change delivery address to a neighbour or so directly with FedEx.

eldoraado 2013-12-17 11:11

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
20000150x changed in Jolla shop to shipped status. Even got the tracking code for FedEx.

The device is traveling around the EU :D Already been to Sweden and France. Should arrive to Estonia tomorrow.

mikecomputing 2013-12-17 11:14

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lupastro (Post 1397437)
care@jolla.com, right?

edit:
Well, I just sent the email. I hope it will work.
However, if my Jolla leaves today or tomorrow I may be able to get it in Germany. If not, I hope it works with the address change to Spain.

Whats the point send mail to jolla.com when it is shipped :eek: Contact fedEX direcly instead?

mikecomputing 2013-12-17 11:17

Re: Jolla tracking numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1397469)

WTF Rickard Stallman's son delivering :eek:


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