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https://twitter.com/LiKimmo/status/4...477888/photo/1

I hope the packaging is good enough :cool: so that they will survive!

Packages should arrive by 4.4. based on estimated deliverytimes available from itella.

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Anyway to know if I'm on the list for pre-orders?

I don't really follow TMO anymore, but I would still very much like have an TOHOLED.

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* Privacy; first ones to who i have sent prototypes can speak up if they like so. They know.
* If you have voted "shut up and take my money" you are in the list to get one from the batch, and you will be contacted through TMO PM or by other means.
* The other "yes" voters and those who have PM'd will have what is left.

There is still work to do....

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I might have mine tomorrow at work if lucky, otherwise probably the day after. :)

Any software available already Kimmo?

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Soon...

I will try to make the rpm package ready today, but if you start getting them earlier, i will ofc send those couple of 'raw' files needed.

We can track possible bugs here for now (as there should not be so many :cool: ) - Every HW is little different, so the ALS/Proximity values are now hard-coded by my unit and might need some per-device tuning. But if that is needed, i will make it "UX".

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Actually I've got mine today :) That was one fast shipping to the dark side of Europe :D

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Well that was fast.
Want to have files now for manual install, or wait ~8 hours for RPM ?

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I can probably build it myself later, if the repo is up to date?

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I got mine too, thanks Kimmoli. I will check the thread later for the .rpm. :)

It fits very well, 3D-print accuracy seems really good for a prototype.

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Just to confirm, got my today :)
Loook good, fits good and feels marvelous to be 'one of the first'
Thanks!

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I'm apparently the third one in the solar system to have an OLED screen on his Jolla. Feel marvelous too. :') Well maybe the fourth, depends if Kimmo has a numbered version. :o

Anyway, just want to stress that this prototype looks really great. I won't be ashamed at all to show my toholeded-phone to people not interested in smartphones or Jollas (those to which it would be difficult to explain). They likely won't notice it is handmade.

P.S.
Appreciated the sticker with quality control!

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Random serial numbers, i did partially assembly 9 PCB's, and then when finalised i forgot to take sequential numbers ...

QC = Quick Check

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Well, then I'm first. http://forum-images.hardware.fr/icones/redface.gif Well anyway it doesn't matter, I just meant I'm happy to get my hands on a prototype and try it.

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Did you get it working? Did packing survive lightning-fast shipment? How it looks/feels? Do you like or hate it? Was it worth of the money? Have already improvement suggestions? Is the display still in correct place? Did it fit the phone? Tried to remove it? Did you like the flyer? Was there Finnish stamps? Hate the derp?
http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/1...com-349952.jpg
I need to know

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Yes, Yes, Looks great/feels like a new device, I love it, No - it is woth more, Not yet - but will come, Yes, Yep, No! Qhy? hehe Yes very pleasent greeting, No stamps but a nascine print with Finnish ;) Was there Finnish stamps? I love all and very much that its black :)

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I installed the rpm when toholed was on, and there was light. Then I tried the proximity sensors a bit, it switched the screen off two times on two attempts, perfect behaviour. But after the third attempt, the screen wouldn't light back. I realized unlocking the phone made the oled turn back on. Notifications work too, but when I lock the phone again, the oled screens turns off again.

I got five reboots since I installed the rpm about 4 hours ago, following symptoms like sluggish performance and then Jolla frozen in lock state.

When the phone reboots, the oled lights again, but will be turned off when the main screen is locked (either by power button, swipe down, or patience).

Basically it sounds like a problem with the proximity sensor because:
- oled lights when main screen lights, which I guess is normal behavior regardless of toholed proximity sensor state;
- when on, putting my finger on the proximity sensor doesn't change anything, which I guess is expected because the main screen is on when I can do this test.

I've checked that no dust was stuck on it, and I think it is clean. Any command I can run to test the sensor?

Restarting the service did not help, reinstalling did not either.

Yes!

Already said that above, it's awesome. As Nieldk just said, it feels like a new device. The tactile feeling of the plastic is also better than expected, and so is print quality.

Stupid question.

Stupid question too.

Not yet, but will definitely follow the thread for a while.

Sure it is!

Yes, yes but just to confirm I need nails.

Very much, nice addition to the package.

Oh crap I don't remember. I don't think so, I would have noticed.

Love the derp.


P.S.
Kimmoli, please let me know if you want me not to discuss here, publicly, the issues I have encountered, and I'll edit my message. I didn't know if I should, but as you just asked if we got the toholed working, here I am!

P.P.S.
Oh and for those waiting for their toholed: please note that the issues encountered might very much be caused by a conflict with something else on my Jolla, not toholed by itself, as Nieldk seems to have no issues so far. And for a prototype, I'm really happy with it. It's meant to solve issues, but from what I've seen before the bugs happened, it was already quite useable/useful.

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On the contrary I don't get Kabouik issues - no reboots and no slow downs. However the proximity sensor doesn't wake up the oled every time as he said (though most times it works, sometimes with a bit of delay).

Yep, no problems there.

Yes, seems no one sat on it :)

Looks great, feels like plastic :D Could be a bit thinner or you could stash a wireless charger in there too :)

Like it!

Yup.

Yup.

Yup. :) It looks kind of fragile to me, since I usually fetch the phone from my pocket with two fingers on both sides and they usually rest on that place when I pull it. Until now I mean :)

Like a glove.

Immediately :)

Nice touch :)

Didn't notice one.

Not yet :)

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There's one minor question that's bothering me; Is it possible to get it in different colours? :eek:

I just love my PoppyRedFirstOne, and it is actually the only one I ever use, orange is just so beautiful on black.... and besids, it is the team colour of my floorball gang :D

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URGENT

You need to disable TOHKBD daemon when using TOHOLED and way around too. These will fight about the I2C bus and other controls, and for sure may cause reboots and other malfunctions described by Kabouik.


And now i wish dirkvl would have put that EEPROM there, i did make some udevrules to start and stop daemons as needed based on EEPROM content. But maybe those can be done by NFC too.
(needs that TOH-switch-dimple on toh)

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The proximity sensor interrupt does not wake the phone itself.
This is known limitation of current kernel. I hope this will fixed (at least method to select so) in upcoming updates.
The front proximity wakes the phone, so when you "pull it out from pocket" it most oftern wakes the phone, and oled proximity gets served too.

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Just to say, I have no issues described here, reboots etc.
Using i2c probe shows green at adresses 39, 3c and 50 here

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Can anyone who received the OOH post "high-res" picture(s) of it?
Much of appreciation if so.

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Yes, it works, it feels very decent, fits really nicely, I like it! No problems with the packing (no Finnish stamps), nor with the operation. It was worth the money. However, the next time without the derp please...

the original pic can be found here

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you also have ordered a macbook without apple logo?

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No, I have no macbook :rolleyes: this is exactly the difference - to have at least the possibility to express wishes (which might even be taken into account in case of "custom" production as opposed to commercial mainstream production)

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You will have it w/o derp... but you have to live with it for a while :)

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All my issues were apparently caused by a conflict with the service from tohkbd, thanks a lot Kimmoli for prompt reaction and perfect solution. Works like a charm now.

Oh and I love the derp, will take it again for the final product anyway, but I think you were definitely right not to offer the choice at this prototype testing stage.

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Now I read this all I can hardly wait for the second batch! :D

(Voted yes, but it could have a bottle opener too just because it was funny. Never realised it resulted in a lower place in the queue. :( )

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same here, but i was secretly hoping for a bottle opener :D

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At least this would make a great use of a somewhat otherwise useless device :P

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Progress update --> http://t.co/cIgvKfYPd0

Now i can focus on the plastic part.

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Here are a few pics:

http://reho.st/http://i.imgur.com/MguaMQp.jpg
http://reho.st/http://i.imgur.com/jNKAjQ9.jpg
http://reho.st/http://i.imgur.com/PJs3pzC.jpg

Light is not good to appreciate the plastics on the pictures, but toholed is in my opinion very usable in everyday life without people looking at your weird phone. I don't hesitate to put it upside down on the table during meetings. The "non-smooth" appearance is actually smoother than expected, and the lines in the plastic are shallow and way less ugly in reality than I thought they would be when I saw pictures. Total thickness is in the acceptable range.

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Newly added feature https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHJ-OD4h5Ow

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Possible additional feature like this would be to display the number of unread notifications for each type, like in the Notification screen of Sailfish: 5 emails, 2 SMS, 4 IRC highlights, and so on.

It may perhaps require decreasing clock size, so that the numbers could be displayed above the corresponding icons. And perhaps that could be optional for people prefering large clock. The clock font could be changed for something wider (smaller in height, but still using 100% of the screen width).

For me, it would be very useful. I often have unread notifications, but I keep track in my mind of how many there were the last time I checked, so if toholed tells me I have 5 email notifications instead of 4 previously, I know there is something new at first glance.

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I have been thinking about this too, but not implemented it due for the limited space on the display.

Easy: I can keep count on SMS and Calls, IRC provides this number already in the dbus signal.

Difficult: Email is atm the most problematic of them all (even to get the notification in first place) - but might be doable.

Tweetian is no-can-do without change in tweetian itself.

I was also considering to order icons in arrival-order, right one being the newest (instead of fixed location as they now have)
Assuming rarely having them all at same time (?) it could be done so that number is shown next to the icon when there is more than 1 of that type.

Have to think.

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maybe change the icon to numbers when there are more than one unread? just important to keep the position of icons/numbers

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Fwiw, in the following thread, in post #15, I wrote a short note about my findings with respect to that one:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92976&page=2

In a nutshell, this hack allows to receive notifications from dbus that are sent via the org.freedesktop.Notifications Notify method.

Otoh, this is a really dirty hack and I think it requires to eavesdrop (Actually, I didn't test without it due to lack of time.) on the session bus.
Right now, eavesdropping on the session bus is possible but I don't know if that may change in the future.

If you want to have a look at the code this is the *.cpp file:
https://github.com/ruedigergad/Skipp...onoadapter.cpp

However, as said, this was done very much in a rush and thus the whole code is likely to be very crude and hackish.
Edit: I even re-used a pre-existing class that was intended for pretty much different purposes and thus the classname is also very much misleading.

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Nothing beats dirty hacks...(except well documented) thanks, i will take a look at this. (quick look - seems doable)

Current implementation'ish : Everytime the clock is updated (and new email icon is not already active), i ask from notification system does messageserver5 have any existing messages. If it return non-empty array there is new email(s).
I also monitor signal sync_completed from asdaemon (exchange) and 5 sec after that check that array from notification system.

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So far, no major issues. It seems that the TOHOLED is not fond of laying in the pocket for a longer period of time. The display will turn off, and a restart of phone is needed to enable it again. No reboots or other fails.

One suggestion. Like Twitter, is it possible to use Friends for notifications from FB ?
I would in the long-term like to see Twitter, FB and also Linkedin notifications. Perhaps is also possible to add number of notifications by rearranging the clock and icons? Might be that the date can find room also then ;)

Like this

+-------------+------------------+
| CLOCK | mail (#) |
| DATE | Twitter (#) |
| Charge | FB (#) |
| Batt | LI (#) |
+-------------+------------------+

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First define "longer period" ?

Display should turn off when inserted to pocket, but it should wake up when proximity is cleared - does this work with "shorter periods" in your pocket?

Do you have leather pants? :cool: Noticed that the proximity sensor has difficulties to detect black leather...

Have you tried to systemctl restart toholed.service ?

Can you provide me some journals via email ?