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juiceme 2015-03-02 13:12
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1462567)
every company in any country is subject to the law on facilitating legal inteception:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...fer-in-the-us/
Sorry, no cigar.

If you host your own mail server on your own domain, there's no way you can get tapped. Not in any country as long as you are acreful on how you set it up.

pichlo 2015-03-02 13:16
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1462596)
If you host your own mail server on your own domain, there's no way you can get tapped.
Really? And how exactly do the emails get to your server?

aegis 2015-03-02 13:55
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1462599)
Really? And how exactly do the emails get to your server?
If you're only emailing people on your own server then they never leave.

It puzzles me why the security services intercept facebook, twitter, gmail etc. You'd have to be a particularly dim criminal/terrorist to use public services.

In other news, bringing it back on topic, Jolla announced a secure fork of Sailfish this morning, partnering with SSH of Finland. Hopefully that's a partnership that will work and will feed back into 'mainstream' Sailfish.

jalyst 2015-03-02 14:14
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Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1462606)
It puzzles me why the security services intercept facebook, twitter, gmail etc. You'd have to be a particularly dim criminal/terrorist to use public services.
That sums up most of the participants in ISIS/ISIL pretty well...

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In other news, bringing it back on topic, Jolla announced a secure fork of Sailfish this morning, partnering with SSH of Finland. Hopefully that's a partnership that will work and will feed back into 'mainstream' Sailfish.
Any more detail on this anywhere?

juiceme 2015-03-02 14:23
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1462599)
Really? And how exactly do the emails get to your server?
@aegis already gave you the reply, secure-by-default is between people having account on the same server.
For other mails, use encryption and hope that they have secure environment.

Jedibeeftrix 2015-03-02 16:09
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1462596)
Sorry, no cigar.

If you host your own mail server on your own domain, there's no way you can get tapped. Not in any country as long as you are acreful on how you set it up.
this would be outside the scope of a tech company offering B2C and B2B services.

willi6868 2015-03-02 23:03
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1462611)
Any more detail on this anywhere?
Here is the official press release: https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/upl...CURE_FINAL.PDF

They will present it on Tuesday and Wednesday on MWC.

juiceme 2015-03-03 05:37
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1462642)
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1462596)
Sorry, no cigar.

If you host your own mail server on your own domain, there's no way you can get tapped. Not in any country as long as you are acreful on how you set it up.
this would be outside the scope of a tech company offering B2C and B2B services.
Could you explain a bit more what you mean?

How is mail service hosting "outside the scope" for a company offering services? Wasn't this exactly what Lavabit was doing, a company offering services? And when the spooks tried to pressure them, they did the honorable thing; rather than surrender they threw the spoon into corner?

jalyst 2015-03-05 07:05
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I hope Jolla have something similar to this planned for the J2 (whilst keeping TOH concept), but I doubt it:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/03/b...curved-slider/

Dave999 2015-03-05 07:50
Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1463090)
I hope Jolla have something similar to this planned for the J2 (whilst keeping TOH concept), but I doubt it:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/03/b...curved-slider/
you posted the wrong link...should have been the discphone, right? ;)

BlackBerry should change the slider to landscape. the kbd is too small for my fat fingers(assuming)

Anyway. My Blackberry Isnt working...http://youtu.be/ZNAkObRoOWo


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