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Re: Jolla 2 expectations

Looking at today's blogpost at Jolla Blog, can anyone identify the third device on this picture?

https://cdn-blog.jolla.com/wp-conten...n_Projects.jpg

Here's just the cropped image.

http://i.imgur.com/pCr1Qb8.jpg

It could be some Nexus device for all I know, but why would it be there next to Jolla and Jolla Tablet?

I seems way too big, though, so I'm not sure if I want it to be the next device.

Re: Jolla 2 expectations

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1466646)

Jolla tablet. N9 and Jolla?

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Originally Posted by djbengan (Post 1466668)

Jolla tablet. N9 and Jolla?

You couldn't think of a less probable option? :D What on earth would N9 do between Jolla Tablet and Jolla, when SailfishOS for N9 is not fully functional and never will be?? :)

Jolla Tablet is on the left, Jolla (1) is definitely the one in the middle (dimension comparisons with the tablet fit exactly). The question is what's the device on the right side.

Some math (very very rough - what else can you get from a tiny image :) ):

Code:

[Name]       [Device height (pic)] [Screen height (pic)]

Jolla Tablet       203mm    (56px)     ~160mm     (42px)

Jolla              131mm    (36px)     ~100mm     (27px)

???               ~145mm    (40px)     ~120mm     (33px)



[Name]       [Device width (pic)] [Screen width (pic)]

Jolla Tablet      137mm                ~120mm

Jolla              68mm                ~56mm

???               ~73mm    (20px)      ~62mm    (17px)



[Name]       [Screen size] [Screen ratio]

Jolla Tablet    7.85"           4:3

Jolla           4.5"         ~1.8:1

???            ~5.3"         ~1.9:1

Re: Jolla 2 expectations

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1466705)

Code:

[Name]       [Device height (pic)] [Screen height (pic)]

Jolla Tablet       203mm    (56px)     ~160mm     (42px)

Jolla              131mm    (36px)     ~100mm     (27px)

???               ~145mm    (40px)     ~120mm     (33px)



[Name]       [Device width (pic)] [Screen width (pic)]

Jolla Tablet      137mm                ~120mm

Jolla              68mm                ~56mm

???               ~73mm    (20px)      ~62mm    (17px)



[Name]       [Screen size] [Screen ratio]

Jolla Tablet    7.85"           4:3

Jolla           4.5"         ~1.8:1

???            ~5.3"         ~1.9:1

hmmmm, i guess ur right... something makes me think oneplus. Jolla would never make a 5+ device... hopefully.

Re: Jolla 2 expectations

a putative Jolla2 is now far enough into the future that i really do expect it to arrive with TypeC USB. given that we are looking at Sept 15 at the earliest i will be disappointed if it is sporting microUSB when it is announced.

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Yet another connector? Incomparible with everything I have in my arsenal? No, thanks.

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1467128)

Yet another connector? Incomparible with everything I have in my arsenal? No, thanks.

Anything is better than microusb... it was the bad choice from the beginning, only adopted universally because manufacturers were such cheapskate bastards.

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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1467125)

...given that we are looking at Sept 15 at the earliest...

I doubt very much that we'll see something shipping his year, happy to be mistaken though.
What are licensing costs like for Type-C, are they high, Intel part of the working group?
Most spec'n lately, has been pointing to Jolla most likely being in bed in bed with Intel, so would they be helping them out?

Re: Jolla 2 expectations

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1467128)

Yet another connector? Incomparible with everything I have in my arsenal? No, thanks.

you can't ignore the future, chap.

otherwise you'd still be banging out COBOL on your Sparc mainframe.

besides which, it is the one port to rule them all:
10gb/sec data
100W power
displayport over USB
PCIe over USB

it'll rock your world!

Re: Jolla 2 expectations

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1467141)

me either, sadly. but at least my nexus 5 will have done two years of solid service by then. just hope this time around we get some specs worth paying for, quite happy with the software.

re licensing fees, i don't believe there are any. from wiki:

"A vendor ID is necessary for obtaining a certification of compliance from the USB-IF. The USB-IF is responsible for issuing USB vendor IDs to product manufacturers. The cost for issuing this number is US$5,000. Additionally, the use of a trademarked USB logo to identify certified devices requires license fee of US$3,500 for a 2-year term.[1] Some microcontroller manufacturers offer a free or low cost sublicense of their vendor ID for development/testing and limited production (generally under 10,000 units). Vendors offering this free service include:"

dell seem quite happy about the prospect of cherry trail (14nm - X5/X7) atom products being able to support type C USB:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...90790515,d.d2s

this is one reason why I questioned a few weeks back whether Jolla support would be limited to the cheaper Intel bay trail SoC (22nm - X3):

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...00#post1462900