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TMavica 2014-02-24 05:03
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
I got only 1 contact that is you @coderus
LOL

cvp 2014-02-24 09:38
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1413973)
About Telegram: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3610095

I'm not sure why people are so excited about it. There is nothing good in it that I can see.
i am agree with you. But telegram and much more are better than Whatapp.

is it not possible to change the server settings on the client and use a own server with e.g. openfire?

i wich realy that some one can port Chatsecure to Sailfish :/

shmerl 2014-02-24 18:23
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
@cvp: Telegram is not XMPP compliant as far as I understand, so forget about OpenFire. And their server is not open source, so you can't run your own. Another centralized service in the age of mass surveillance doesn't sound like something to be excited about at all.

People can use XMPP instead of all these broken attempts to reinvent the wheel. I guess some people never learn.

MartinK 2014-02-24 18:33
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Don't know if this has already been posted:
Telegram, AKA “Stand back, we have Math PhDs!”

Yay, custom non-peer reviewed crypto! :)
But, well, they know math so everything should be fine, right ? ...

shmerl 2014-02-24 18:37
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
Conclusion:

Quote:
To sum it up: avoid at all costs. There are no new ideas, and they add their flawed homegrown mix of RSA, AES-IGE, plain SHA1 integrity verification, MAC-Then-Encrypt, and a custom KDF. Instead of Telegram, you should use well known and audited protocols, like OTR (usable in IRC, Jabber) or the Axolotl key ratcheting of TextSecure.
Also, how can we trust anything they say about their servers if they aren't open? Even assuming their security is not broken, an IM protocol which doesn't allow federation is a failure from the start, nothing even to consider.

coderus 2014-02-24 18:56
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
dont write crypto review stories, just hack telegram crypto and get $200,000 from durov
https://telegram.org/crypto_contest

shmerl 2014-02-24 19:12
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
@coderus: Be my guest, $200,000 is useful. Just don't use the service and don't proliferate its usage, because that's already damaging ;)

coderus 2014-02-24 19:19
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
ahah, sorry, i'm not paranoid :D

shmerl 2014-02-24 20:00
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
@coderus: It's not about being paranoid. It's about damaging others and being irresponsible doing it by proliferating a bad service. I.e. you using it doesn't affect just you. It affects others - negatively.

Here is an interesting article which describes this kind of issue:

http://betabeat.com/2011/12/in-which...g-on-facebook/

coderus 2014-02-24 20:04
Re: Telegram on SailfishOS
 
dont use telegram if you dont want to do.


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