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Morpog

2014-03-15 18:18

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1416861)

anyone know change the governor can make the ui faster

do it as root

echo "performance" >/sys/devices/platform/kgsl-3d0.0/kgsl/kgsl-3d0/pwrscale/trustzone/governor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dared (Post 1416888)

Huh?

10chars

That tweak is from IRC channel, by stskeeps, which is Jolla's man for technical research. Yes it does work. After that the device feels smooth like butter. I am using this last 3 days already. Battery lasts a bit less, but still much better than with the NFC bug :D

Try it. You will be surprised. It's gone after a reboot.

szymeczek34

2014-03-15 18:44

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

If it's gone after a reboot I'm trying it!

zlatko

2014-03-15 18:48

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

It really makes UI smoother. It is setting the GPU to max frequency. It may be possible to revert with using "ondemand" setting instead "performance" one.

szymeczek34

2014-03-15 18:55

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

It's a nice thing to do before showing somebody your Jolla for the first time. It does make all transitions very smooth.

m4r0v3r

2014-03-15 20:51

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Tbh am just hoping for a few more optimizations between the Android drivers and Sailfish

aironeous

2014-03-15 23:59

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Has anyone tried the Moga Game controller on the Jolla phone yet? I have one for my HTC One and it works pretty good. Lots of touchy touchies. http://www.mogaanywhere.com/

I suddenly remembered something about android apps not having access to bluetooth
I wonder if the upcoming update will make Android games work with bluetooth,

I wonder if Jolla will incorporate that new speed reading tech called spritz in their OS anywhere in future updates because I heard on the radio the Samsung Galaxy S5 will have it.
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/1...-speed-reading

chenliangchen

2014-03-16 00:03

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1416913)

I wish there is a tweak to make it work after reboot, it makes such a differenct that I prefer sacrifising battery.:p

Dave999

2014-03-16 07:50

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

http://imageshack.us/a/img593/769/burncu.png

3 days to gogo

jalyst

2014-03-16 09:38

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

That picture's sooo outdated nowadays, we need the new CEO wearing a batman mask whilst he's holding the Sailfish.

nieldk

2014-03-16 10:34

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

For those interrested

https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/cpufrequtils and
https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/libsysfs

Code:

[root@localhost nemo]# cpufreq-info 

cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009

Report errors and bugs to http://bugs.opensuse.org, please.

analyzing CPU 0:

  driver: msm

  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0

  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0

  maximum transition latency: 0.00 ms.

  hardware limits: 384 MHz - 1.40 GHz

  available frequency steps: 384 MHz, 432 MHz, 486 MHz, 540 MHz, 594 MHz, 648 MHz, 702 MHz, 756 MHz, 810 MHz, 864 MHz, 918 MHz, 972 MHz, 1.03 GHz, 1.08 GHz, 1.13 GHz, 1.19 GHz, 1.24 GHz, 1.30 GHz, 1.35 GHz, 1.40 GHz

  available cpufreq governors: msm-dcvs, interactive, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance

  current policy: frequency should be within 384 MHz and 1.40 GHz.

                  The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use

                  within this range.

  current CPU frequency is 1.40 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).

  cpufreq stats: 384 MHz:88.26%, 432 MHz:0.10%, 486 MHz:0.13%, 540 MHz:0.13%, 594 MHz:0.10%, 648 MHz:0.17%, 702 MHz:0.11%, 756 MHz:0.08%, 810 MHz:0.07%, 864 MHz:0.05%, 918 MHz:1.96%, 972 MHz:0.04%, 1.03 GHz:1.85%, 1.08 GHz:0.02%, 1.13 GHz:0.02%, 1.19 GHz:0.02%, 1.24 GHz:0.02%, 1.30 GHz:0.01%, 1.35 GHz:0.02%, 1.40 GHz:6.82%  (112062)

analyzing CPU 1:

  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU

  maximum transition latency: 0.00 ms.

Code:

[root@localhost nemo]# cpufreq-set -g performance

[root@localhost nemo]# cpufreq-info 

cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009

Report errors and bugs to http://bugs.opensuse.org, please.

analyzing CPU 0:

  driver: msm

  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0

  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0

  maximum transition latency: 0.00 ms.

  hardware limits: 384 MHz - 1.40 GHz

  available frequency steps: 384 MHz, 432 MHz, 486 MHz, 540 MHz, 594 MHz, 648 MHz, 702 MHz, 756 MHz, 810 MHz, 864 MHz, 918 MHz, 972 MHz, 1.03 GHz, 1.08 GHz, 1.13 GHz, 1.19 GHz, 1.24 GHz, 1.30 GHz, 1.35 GHz, 1.40 GHz

  available cpufreq governors: msm-dcvs, interactive, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance

  current policy: frequency should be within 384 MHz and 1.40 GHz.

                  The governor "performance" may decide which speed to use

                  within this range.

  current CPU frequency is 1.40 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).

  cpufreq stats: 384 MHz:88.25%, 432 MHz:0.10%, 486 MHz:0.13%, 540 MHz:0.13%, 594 MHz:0.10%, 648 MHz:0.17%, 702 MHz:0.11%, 756 MHz:0.08%, 810 MHz:0.07%, 864 MHz:0.05%, 918 MHz:1.96%, 972 MHz:0.04%, 1.03 GHz:1.85%, 1.08 GHz:0.02%, 1.13 GHz:0.02%, 1.19 GHz:0.02%, 1.24 GHz:0.02%, 1.30 GHz:0.01%, 1.35 GHz:0.02%, 1.40 GHz:6.83%  (112129)

analyzing CPU 1:

  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU

  maximum transition latency: 0.00 ms.

Code:

[root@localhost nemo]# cpufreq-set -g powersave

[root@localhost nemo]# cpufreq-info 

cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009

Report errors and bugs to http://bugs.opensuse.org, please.

analyzing CPU 0:

  driver: msm

  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0

  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0

  maximum transition latency: 0.00 ms.

  hardware limits: 384 MHz - 1.40 GHz

  available frequency steps: 384 MHz, 432 MHz, 486 MHz, 540 MHz, 594 MHz, 648 MHz, 702 MHz, 756 MHz, 810 MHz, 864 MHz, 918 MHz, 972 MHz, 1.03 GHz, 1.08 GHz, 1.13 GHz, 1.19 GHz, 1.24 GHz, 1.30 GHz, 1.35 GHz, 1.40 GHz

  available cpufreq governors: msm-dcvs, interactive, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance

  current policy: frequency should be within 384 MHz and 1.40 GHz.

                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use

                  within this range.

  current CPU frequency is 384 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).

  cpufreq stats: 384 MHz:88.23%, 432 MHz:0.10%, 486 MHz:0.13%, 540 MHz:0.13%, 594 MHz:0.10%, 648 MHz:0.17%, 702 MHz:0.11%, 756 MHz:0.08%, 810 MHz:0.07%, 864 MHz:0.05%, 918 MHz:1.96%, 972 MHz:0.04%, 1.03 GHz:1.85%, 1.08 GHz:0.02%, 1.13 GHz:0.02%, 1.19 GHz:0.02%, 1.24 GHz:0.02%, 1.30 GHz:0.01%, 1.35 GHz:0.02%, 1.40 GHz:6.85%  (112130)

analyzing CPU 1:

  no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU

  maximum transition latency: 0.00 ms.

juiceme

2014-03-16 11:03

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1416913)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1416946)

I wish there is a tweak to make it work after reboot, it makes such a differenct that I prefer sacrifising battery.:p

Of course it is possible. Just add that line to a startup script so it will be run when you boot the device.

Dave999

2014-03-16 15:20

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1416967)

That picture's sooo outdated nowadays, we need the new CEO wearing a batman mask whilst he's holding the Sailfish.

Why do you need a new CEO? Jussi was the CEO who launched jolla. Like bill gates and Steve jobs. Marc and batman are just copy cats...riding the safe and easy wave.

The painting is timeless...the message is timeless...it's always valid.

jalyst

2014-03-16 16:34

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1416990)

Why do you need a new CEO? Jussi was the CEO who launched jolla. Like bill gates and Steve jobs. Marc and batman are just copy cats...riding the safe and easy wave.

The painting is timeless...the message is timeless...it's always valid.

That's a poor analogy, in what way was Jussi one of the keystone members of the organisation, please tell me, did he drive it from the very beginning, & does he continue to do so?
How are Marc & Tomi "copy cats", they each have their distinct roles, especially Marc from the earliest days (also a founding member -mind you)...
And how are they "riding the easy wave" in the wake of Jussi, I think that would be very offensive to them, you have lots of explaining to do, Dave...

Dave999

2014-03-16 16:39

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1416995)

That's a poor analogy, in what way was Jussi one of the keystone members of the organisation, please tell me, did he drive it from the very beginning, & does he continue to do so?
How are Marc & Tomi "copy cats", they each have their distinct roles, especially Marc form the earliest days (also a founding member -mind you)...
And how are they "riding the easy wave" in the wake of Jussi, I think that would be very offensive to them, you have lots of explaining to do, Dave...

Just follow the same logic you used when posting your previous post. None!

dirkvl

2014-03-16 16:49

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

FIGHT!

http://media.giphy.com/media/ftXvsSyRzKXXG/giphy.gif

jalyst

2014-03-16 16:51

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1416996)

Just follow the same logic you used when posting your previous post. None!

Ah Dave, you got nothing, just hot air & bile, yeah?

jalyst

2014-03-16 16:55

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1416997)

FIGHT!

http://media.giphy.com/media/ftXvsSyRzKXXG/giphy.gif

I like to fight against idiots, in real life too... ;-)
I aint no light-weight when it comes to combating stupidity, I like throwing my weight around in that arena.

nieldk

2014-03-16 17:28

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1416999)

I like to fight against idiots, in real life too... ;-)
I aint no light-weight when it comes to combating stupidity, I like throwing my weight around in that arena.

:) +1

but it aint always a pleasure hehe

jalyst

2014-03-16 17:31

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1417001)

but it aint always a pleasure hehe

Indeed, it can "messier" IRL, but sometimes it just needs to happen...
Anyway, I've no wish to digress things further, unless Dave wishes to continue w/some silly OT nonsense.

Good night.

Dave999

2014-03-16 18:07

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1416998)

Ah Dave, you got nothing, just hot air & bile, yeah?

Yeah, At least I got hot air & bile. You got nothing and yet again you start the conversation with no logic and when I play along you call people idiots. Have you ever consider yourself as one? :D

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/ite...u-on-it-te.jpg

mikecomputing

2014-03-16 20:07

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Tested th gpsapp a little more today when I took a long walk, and I must say it really need to be improved alot.

Why on earth does it not move "the arrows" When moving forward. It just stays there?

Lets hope upcoming release also updates the maps app....

Dave999

2014-03-16 21:08

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

:pits finally time for release week(again). I think Wednesday. Dont ask me why. But sure im right a:p

jalyst

2014-03-17 02:18

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1417003)

Yeah, At least I got hot air & bile. You got nothing and yet again you start the conversation with no logic and when I play along you call people idiots. Have you ever consider yourself as one? :D

I didn't start the convo with no logic, you responded to my benign sentence with some unfounded claims, which I called you out on, & which you still haven't addressed.
This clearly is becoming a pointless derailment, rather than a discussion about your unfounded claims, so it's best that we drop it, rather than subject everyone to it.

Dave999

2014-03-17 06:42

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1417028)

sure u did, with your batman line with unfunded claims. But again, you seems ignorant to that fact so i take resonsibility for your posts and my spin of your post. I hope thats ok and case is closed. You can go back to your task to bash and complain about jolla communication and i will ho back to waiting for the update with a short countdown.

is that OK?

mariusmssj

2014-03-17 07:32

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

anyone wants to do bets on the day of the update? I think it will be Wednesday!

Dave999

2014-03-17 07:43

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1417044)

anyone wants to do bets on the day of the update? I think it will be Wednesday!

im in, but read 3 abbove. Wednesday is already taken. Why not split the money?

Makeclick

2014-03-17 08:32

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

In Finland we say:
"Pessimisti ei pety" ~ pessimist will not be disappointed

so... Thursday :) (but secretly i hope today ;) )

jalyst

2014-03-17 08:41

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1417039)

sure u did, with your batman line with unfunded claims. But again, you seems ignorant to that fact so i take resonsibility for your posts and my spin of your post. I hope thats ok and case is closed.

Lets be clear here, I didn't make dumb assertions like:
"Jussi was the CEO who launched jolla, like bill gates and Steve jobs", or that Tomi & Marc are following in Jussi's wake by "riding the safe and easy wave", or that "Marc & batman are just copycats". All I ever said was, it'd be more pertinent if Tomi/Marc were used in such images nowadays, at no point did I make unfounded claims, apparently you don't understand what unfounded claims are.

I didn't demand that a new series of photo-shopped images be created, I merely made an absolutely correct observation.
Ofc for satirical purposes, having a new series doesn't matter that much, unless one prefers to be at least remotely historically accurate.
Anyway, this whole discussion has gone way past the realms of stupid, so, lets drop it...

I predict the release will be sometime in March, but they should take more time as needed if they're not 100% ready.
I don't want them releasing something half-baked, just because of lots of whining about them missing delivery targets.

kollin

2014-03-17 09:22

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1417054)

In Finland we say:
"Pessimisti ei pety" ~ pessimist will not be disappointed

so... Thursday :) (but secretly i hope today ;) )

+1 Thursday

:p

bockersjv

2014-03-17 09:25

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

I call Friday, seems to be the preferred Jolla release day ;)

On a separate note...

Given that this is the first full release is anyone else planning to do a full reste before the release? I know that on both my N900 and N9 the device always seemed to run better after this.

Question is do I do a full device reset before or after the update, or just not bother?

catbus

2014-03-17 09:26

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

"Soon"

.....

Maettu

2014-03-17 09:29

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Thursday has nothing to do with „early this week”.. and I'm really getting tired of this software version because of its bugs! ..so, I go for Tuesday!

nieldk

2014-03-17 10:10

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

1 Attachment(s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1416975)

Of course it is possible. Just add that line to a startup script so it will be run when you boot the device.

To change cpu governor at boot, do something like this :)
create /etc/systemd/system/cpug.service:

Code:

 

# nano /etc/systemd/system/cpug.service

(CTRL+O to save file, CTRL+X to exit nano)

Code:

 

[Unit]

Description=Change CPU Govenor performance

[Service]

Type=forking

ExecStart=/bin/sh -c "/bin/echo 'performance' > /sys/devices/platform/kgsl-3d0.0/kgsl/kgsl-3d0/pwrscale/trustzone/governor"

# If you install my cpufrequtils

# ExecStart=/usr/bin/cpufreq-set -g performance

 

[Install]

WantedBy=multi-user.target

start the cpug.service:

Code:

 

# systemctl start cpug.service

enable the cpug.service at boot:

Code:

 

# systemctl enable cpug.service

I attached the cpug.service file for you.
Remember to rename to cpug.service from cpug.service.txt

Test performance with terminal ;)
https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/sysbench

cvp	2014-03-17 10:14

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

early: Monday/Tuesday
middle: Tuesday/Wednesday /Thursday
end: Thursday/Friday
Weekend: Sa/Su

:p

@nieldk

thanks for the How-To

.... i dont know why, but i dont feel nothing better, i feel nothing faster or anythink :)
But i try it with the method if i reboot than it will gone.

nieldk

2014-03-17 10:38

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1417073)

@nieldk

thanks for the How-To

.... i dont know why, but i dont feel nothing better, i feel nothing faster or anythink :)
But i try it with the method if i reboot than it will gone.

updated the cpug.service - should enable correctlu now :)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=393

mariusmssj

2014-03-17 10:50

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1417058)

I used to do the same with my N9, but I think with Jolla a reset makes the OS go to old release version

anidel

2014-03-17 10:57

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

And today is March 17th :)
Still haven't seen it :(

The wait is longer...longer...

kollin

2014-03-17 10:59

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1417079)

I used to do the same with my N9, but I think with Jolla a reset makes the OS go to old release version

Interesting, since the update that we are all waiting is a "final" release, does that mean that after the update the default version after reset would be 1.0.4.x instead of 1.0.1.x.?

Larswad

2014-03-17 11:10

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1417011)

Yes, I noticed this "here" maps application really sucked. It was useless when it didn't update the location. It made completely brainless routing for a walk that was pretty easy.
It should be called "there" maps instead, or "not here" maps or perhaps "not anywhere" maps.

One thing though that almost made me throw the Jolla in the wall this week was at a visit on IKEA. I had to transfer more money from savings to the main account so I went called into my manual banking service. There I had to identify myself of course using the numeric tones. Nearly every time I tried entering my personal security number or the password that damned keyboard issued double-taps (sent the same number twice). This ended up in that I locked my phone service account. Of course I could get home and fix this over internet, but it did ruin my day completely.

This was a serious bug and it was consistent. It sent the same number twice intermittently and irritated the hell out of me. People though I was a madman standing there shouting at my jolla.

THIS thing has to be fixed. No#1 on my prio list.

cvp	2014-03-17 11:22

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1417076)

updated the cpug.service - should enable correctlu now :)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=393

hey, i copy&past all, after

# systemctl start cpug.service

i get this massage:

[root@localhost ~]# systemctl start cpug.service
Failed to issue method call: Unit cpug.service failed to load: Bad message. See system logs and 'systemctl status cpug.service' for details.

than i try this:
# systemctl status cpug.service

and get this:
cpug.service - Change CPU Govenor performance
Loaded: error (Reason: Bad message)
Active: inactive (dead)

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