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szopin 2014-03-17 20:04
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1417217)
Not so cool when upgrade phone thats for sure.
noone said anything about cool
edit: oops actually I did, there is some cool bleeding edge stuff there, but that comes with risk, my bad

bockersjv 2014-03-17 20:04
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
No email search and no changes to the media app.

uii feels a lot smoother and the display brighter and crisper especially the covers which have a far brighter background now. I like the new keyboard too.

mikecomputing 2014-03-17 20:05
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silwer (Post 1417216)
I had SSH enabled previously. It only worked over wifi. Just noticed that on my computer I had ip addres 192.168.1.77 stored in SSH client settings. Most likely it was the one I used before to connect before over wifi. However, now it does not seem to work. I already also tried USB ip 192.168.2.15 and no luck.

Any other adress I could try? What is used IP range? Sorry for stuped questions. But I would like to get my phone back running again...
Are you talking about your Jollaphone? What about settings->developermode? It justs lists the ip of your phone also the pw.

Silwer 2014-03-17 20:07
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Yes, I talk about Jolla. I can not open settings->developermode as NOTHING opens at all. I can only see home screens. No apps are working. Not even terminal on the phone.

shallimus 2014-03-17 20:08
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silwer (Post 1417223)
Yes, I talk about Jolla. I can not open settings->developermode as NOTHING opens at all. I can only see home screens. No apps are working. Not even terminal on the phone.
Are you able to see your wifi router admin screens? That should help you find the IP your Jolla currently has, assuming you don't have lots of unknown devices on your network.

szopin 2014-03-17 20:09
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silwer (Post 1417223)
Yes, I talk about Jolla. I can not open settings->developermode as NOTHING opens at all. I can only see home screens. No apps are working. Not even terminal on the phone.
terminal would mean developer mode, if tou had enabled ssh head to irc for help (freenode, #jollamobile)

Dave999 2014-03-17 20:10
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Ssh and zypper up works?

shallimus 2014-03-17 20:11
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1417220)
No email search and no changes to the media app.
Thanks. I wish I was more surprised. Both the mail & the media app are missing basic features (e.g. search, in both cases) and have obvious bugs. I'm too lazy/busy to research these right now, but has anyone noticed:
  • Unified mailbox is often out of date compared with individual mailboxes
  • Long MP3 file (e.g. 2 hour mix) shows up as 20:00 (i.e. 20 minutes) in the media player

Quote:
Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1417220)
uii feels a lot smoother and the display brighter and crisper especially the covers which have a far brighter background now. I like the new keyboard too.
Super! Can't wait to update.

mikecomputing 2014-03-17 20:38
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
one of intresting for developers: are latest release running qt5.2?

w00t 2014-03-17 20:44
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1417235)
one of intresting for developers: are latest release running qt5.2?
Not yet. Hopefully not too far away in the future.

szopin 2014-03-17 20:46
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1417235)
one of intresting for developers: are latest release running qt5.2?
Another one: is SDL finally allowed in harbour? (tetrepetete is sooo cool and addicting, it's '90s yet again) Did the qml bugs in displaying imgs got fixed so quickddit is usable for cat viewing(and official together app can reinstate swipe back)?

edit: quickddit, it's the double d not t stupid
edit2: get tetrepetete here: https://thp.io/2013/tetrepetete/ really the coolest version of the game that starts with T I've had the chance to play (though no pause on swipe out, which can happen, so watch out when you hit that 80k, it's crazy at that point)

w00t 2014-03-17 20:48
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417238)
Another one: is SDL finally allowed in harbour? (tetrepetete is sooo cool and addicting, it's '90s yet again) Did the qml bugs in displaying imgs got fixed so quickddit is usable for cat viewing(and official together app can reinstate swipe back)?
SDL: Not yet (https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-...libraries.conf), but sometime in the future.

QML bugs: if you can provide me with a testcase (ideally reported in Qt's bugtracker upstream at bugreports.qt-project.org), I can get it looked into.

mariusmssj 2014-03-17 20:48
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anyone else noticed Quick Feedback app on the Jolla section of the store?

szopin 2014-03-17 20:54
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1417239)
SDL: Not yet (https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-...libraries.conf), but sometime in the future.

QML bugs: if you can provide me with a testcase (ideally reported in Qt's bugtracker upstream at bugreports.qt-project.org), I can get it looked into.
Thanks! I'll ask quickditt dev to post actual bug, in its thread he mentioned it being qml/qt bug that any image > jolla native resolution screwed with the ability to swipe back. Thank you!

edit: it is obviously quickddit, not tt, gah

Silwer 2014-03-17 20:56
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shallimus (Post 1417225)
Are you able to see your wifi router admin screens? That should help you find the IP your Jolla currently has, assuming you don't have lots of unknown devices on your network.
Got the right IP from the router. Now SSH connects over wifi.
Fixed phone using these instructions: https://together.jolla.com/question/...fore-updating/

Uhh...

djselbeck 2014-03-17 21:18
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
I liked the old look better. Think it was more consistent. The highlight of new covers looks strange for example. Also the ambient color calculation was better before. My favorite picture which was orange ambient color now is ugly yellow


But the performance got really improved (wasn't bad before)

dommau 2014-03-17 21:20
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
my phone doesn't show the update, although I disabled all openrepos from warehouse... can someone help me?

thanks!

Dave999 2014-03-17 21:22
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dommau (Post 1417251)
my phone doesn't show the update, although I disabled all openrepos from warehouse... can someone help me?

thanks!
You just have to wait. Good things will come.

shmerl 2014-03-17 21:58
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
I didn't follow latest announcements. Is there any ETA when Sailfish installation instructions for CyanogenMod based hardware adaptations will be published? (Same question goes for Nemo I guess). Waiting for updated Jolla hardware revision with another modem is probably futile until the next device, but installing Sailfish on other devices can be a good option meanwhile.

djselbeck 2014-03-17 22:04
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417259)
There you are! :) Pls fix quickddit, w00t will help
why should i fix it? I don't even use it ;)

szopin 2014-03-17 22:15
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by djselbeck (Post 1417262)
why should i fix it? I don't even use it ;)
w0000ps, sorry, too many dsl and e's in those nicks, thought dicksonleong woke up after bump, disregard that

Dave999 2014-03-17 22:26
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1417260)
I didn't follow latest announcements. Is there any ETA when Sailfish installation instructions for CyanogenMod based hardware adaptations will be published? (Same question goes for Nemo I guess). Waiting for updated Jolla hardware revision with another modem is probably futile until the next device, but installing Sailfish on other devices can be a good option meanwhile.
no, nothing.

szopin 2014-03-17 22:38
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1417260)
I didn't follow latest announcements. Is there any ETA when Sailfish installation instructions for CyanogenMod based hardware adaptations will be published? (Same question goes for Nemo I guess). Waiting for updated Jolla hardware revision with another modem is probably futile until the next device, but installing Sailfish on other devices can be a good option meanwhile.
Know any android device where injection/monitor mode works? Latest I heard is Galaxy II, which is quite dated (and with supposedly same driver/hw as N900 which made XDA guys make it real), filling up niches like pentesting could result in a few k more devices sold (or few more k OS installations performed)

catbus 2014-03-17 22:51
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
How about MMS with this new 1.0 -version?

shmerl 2014-03-17 22:56
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417269)
Know any android device where injection/monitor mode works? Latest I heard is Galaxy II, which is quite dated (and with supposedly same driver/hw as N900 which made XDA guys make it real), filling up niches like pentesting could result in a few k more devices sold (or few more k OS installations performed)
No idea. But Galaxy II seems to have better specs than N9 CPU wise. There is also another point for any such device to consider - ergonomics. It should have a flat screen with no bumps on the sides. Since Sailfish relies on edges swipes a lot, any such bumps would be really irritating.

m4r0v3r 2014-03-17 23:06
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for i in $(ssu lr 2>&1 | grep openre | cut -d" " -f3); d o ssu dr $i ; done
disables all open repos

szopin 2014-03-17 23:09
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1417275)
No idea. But Galaxy II seems to have better specs than N9 CPU wise. There is also another point for any such device to consider - ergonomics. It should have a flat screen with no bumps on the sides. Since Sailfish relies on edges swipes a lot, any such bumps would be really irritating.
Problem is any (other) modem/wifi will still rely on libhybris/android drivers in Sailfish, so even crowdsourcing such work like lxp did with n900 is unlikely (Kickstarter, sure, just much more likely to happen on the android version first, and only then libhybris could work on supporting all bleeding edge functions). Jolla guys have been mentioning of being able to prepare a WIP adaptation in 24hrs, so this part should be at least far from unlikely. Still, if whole XDA forum lacks a pentesting-able device...

aegis 2014-03-17 23:15
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I really dislike the new cover background. It's too fussy, too bright and the texture doesn't fill the cover tile it sits on. The tile has square corners but the texture has rounded corners.

People at least now gets the contact type right indicating work/home etc but you still can't edit contacts from Google. Needless to day, CardDAV/CalDAV didn't make the cut this time either.

I seem to have had more low memory app shutdowns since the update.

Keyboard improvements are good though it still doesn't switch to uppercase after a period.

Typing in textareas in the browser has improved though the cursor disappears occasionally.

olympus 2014-03-17 23:16
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1417274)
How about MMS with this new 1.0 -version?
Nope. 10char

shmerl 2014-03-17 23:17
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417278)
Problem is any (other) modem/wifi will still rely on libhybris/android drivers in Sailfish, so even crowdsourcing such work like lxp did with n900 is unlikely (Kickstarter, sure, just much more likely to happen on the android version first, and only then libhybris could work on supporting all bleeding edge functions).

Sure, it will have to use libhybris and Android drivers. I thought that was their major plan (to use CM hw adaptation with libhybris for Sailfish). I.e. at least until native glibc drivers for any SoC will appear. Even with efforts like Freedreno, it doesn't seem to be happening on a scale to make such SoC usable. Probably until Intel will release open drivers for their new SoC in 2015 libhybris is the only way.

aegis 2014-03-17 23:18
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1417274)
How about MMS with this new 1.0 -version?
Nope. still can't.

catbus 2014-03-17 23:26
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1417282)
Nope. still can't.
What is so hard to implement that?...

w00t?

szymeczek34 2014-03-17 23:26
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I have to apologize to you guys in the name of Jolla for that late update. They were simply waiting for my birthday to release it.
Great gift Jolla! Thanks!

szopin 2014-03-17 23:30
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1417281)
Sure, it will have to use libhybris and Android drivers. I thought that was their major plan (to use CM hw adaptation with libhybris for Sailfish). I.e. at least until native glibc drivers for any SoC will appear. Even with efforts like Freedreno, it doesn't seem to be happening on a scale to make such SoC usable. Probably until Intel will release open drivers for their new SoC in 2015 libhybris is the only way.
Oh yes, pls bring on low power x86 chips, forget the recompiling days, that would rock (though my laptop's intel wifi card suckz ballz)

droll 2014-03-17 23:33
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i like the new keyboard and reworked ui readability. let's see how it stands up against bright sunlight.

oh the joy of having bigger keys on the vkb. more accuracy. yessss.

keep on sailing!

catbus 2014-03-17 23:39
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
no personal ringtones ;( for "people"...

richardski 2014-03-17 23:48
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
The update worked well and 2Hrs later all appear to be running OK. Also a bug I reported has been fixed - Result!! :)

Richard

catbus 2014-03-18 00:19
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Mail application does not fetch new mail automatically, even scheduled...

catbus 2014-03-18 00:22
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Network-roaming between wlan and 3G working great!

zamorph 2014-03-18 00:28
Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1417279)
Keyboard improvements are good though it still doesn't switch to uppercase after a period.
The keyboard on my Jolla has always switched to uppercase (after a period / full stop) since I first got it in January.


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