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m4r0v3r

2014-03-20 08:39

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

My alarm snoozes after one set of rings, thats an issue lol

Makeclick

2014-03-20 09:02

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417740)

Still, the mobile data connection switching itself on is a CRITICAL bug, Jolla are endangering their customers into having to pay huge amounts of money if they happen to need to travel abroad with it as main device. This should not have happened.

Ok.. I can confirm that :O, but you can set data roaming off and you should, if you travel.

i have always connection ON so, it's not that bad for me and this time it working with a Wlan :D. I think 1.0.3.8 is the worst update which Jolla ever has (from day one from Helsinki [163 :P]). After the factory reset it jumped over it :D. Fist update was 1.0.2.5 and then 1.0.4.20.

Now even android cover is not suddenly closed. People app is get closed ~2x, but nothing else.

What i want? You may ask.

-2tab zoom out from the zoomed photo/gallery picture. Should be there already!
-if you delete some "ben larger" email (uknow you do not want to read it) it say unreaded 1 in deleted mails. Can it be like: delete function -> mark as read & delete?
-Home screen scrolling lags, not much but it will, if you swipe, wait, swipe, wait (easy to confirm with a tool inside developer menu). Something doing with cpu/gpu MHz and touch or not touch?
-whole Sailfish working with a landscape mode :).
-able to copy text with the browser (text on pages)

Makeclick

2014-03-20 09:11

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozymandias (Post 1417779)

Woke up this morning to find that my wifi didn't work - Jolla couldn't find ANY wifi. My netbook worked fine.
After reboot it has connected again - but my icons were distributed randomly.
This keeps getting better and better -.-

You try that??

Code:

version --dup

if that is not work, you have to reset it OR your Jolla is broken. When and if you reset your jolla.. After backup, delete all your pictures and videos :).

Ozymandias

2014-03-20 09:48

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1417787)

You try that??

Code:

version --dup

if that is not work, you have to reset it OR your Jolla is broken. When and if you reset your jolla.. After backup, delete all your pictures and videos :).

What does that command do?

Zoxir

2014-03-20 09:51

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Fortunately I did disable openrepos before updating but now I don't remember which ones I had enabled, any way to find them???

Also yesterday when hanging up on a call phone randomly rebooted have no idea why and haven't been able to reproduce.

Mitrigol

2014-03-20 10:04

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version --dup update your OS to latest version. But i am unable to find any document about this command. i think it compare packages version and install proper one for the version you ask for, in this case it is not specified, so it take the latest one.

As for the disabled repos, you can check the ssu -lr command which will list repos, even disabled ones.

gaelic

2014-03-20 10:08

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Anyone else experiencing this problem:

i set up wpa enterprise by hand (eduroam). After the update my /etc/resolv.conf doesn't get a valid nameserver entry (only localhost, 127.0.0.1 as nameserver)

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Edit: other wireless networks worked fine.

Edit2: a reboot did the trick (still have no clue why only eduroam was affected)

m4r0v3r

2014-03-20 10:13

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Was connman updated at all?

ggabriel

2014-03-20 10:18

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1417771)

Now I think it's time to go with promise of launcher to android and later Sailfish for nexus. According to jolla it's so easy to get it up and running on different hw. Bring it on!

I wouldn't want Jolla to use resources for any of these... other more sought features plus outstanding bugs come first. Then again, there are business reasons why Jolla would want to start porting to lesser devices just now - I guess a question in tjc + voting would sort out the desire level gauge.

ggabriel

2014-03-20 10:19

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1417797)

Was connman updated at all?

That's my understanding... I haven't tested too much just yet myself.

Dave999

2014-03-20 10:48

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1417798)

I have serious issues with the design/quality/look/screen size so I'm desperate for new hw. Love the OS though.

minimos

2014-03-20 12:03

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1417797)

Was connman updated at all?

These are the connman-related files that have been pulled on my device by this 1.0.3.8 - >1.0.4.20 upgrade:

.

Code:

/jolla/non-oss/noarch/connman-configs-sailfish-0.4.0-10.30.1.jolla.noarch.rpm

./jolla/mw/armv7hl/connman-qt5-1.0.51-1.13.1.armv7hl.rpm

./jolla/mw/armv7hl/connman-qt5-declarative-1.0.51-1.13.1.armv7hl.rpm

./jolla/mw/armv7hl/statefs-provider-connman-0.2.51-1.9.13.armv7hl.rpm

./jolla/core/armv7hl/connman-1.15+git25-1.3.1.armv7hl.rpm

./jolla/qt/armv7hl/qt5-plugin-bearer-connman-5.1.0+git31-1.12.8.armv7hl.rpm

JiiHoo

2014-03-20 12:13

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

According to below news, Jolla's and their subcontractor's ordering books are already full and they can't ship more devices than what has been already ordered:

http://www.kauppalehti.fi/etusivu/jo...a/201403661142

Antti Saarnio says is article that "it is already clear that they will sell hundreds of thousands of phones during spring and summer".

Better than I was expecting, not bad...

Dave999

2014-03-20 12:23

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiiHoo (Post 1417817)

Excellent news if true. Really great! I have to say I'm surprised and also glad. Sail on while waiting for jPhone ll.

I will celebrate by ordering another Android while waiting for jolla to release something cool. Z ultra white. 6,4 inch screen is the size. That's what jolla should release next I hope. A big ****ing phone¡

How do he know that. I'm skeptical...Unless they release something new or open up more markets im call his hand...

aironeous

2014-03-20 12:50

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1417798)

I asked about approx ETA for Android launcher just a 2 month approx and got negative comments on XDA (lots) and one or two negative comments and negative Karma on tjc.

Makeclick

2014-03-20 12:51

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozymandias (Post 1417792)

What does that command do?

Reupdate. safe to do and you do not lose anything. disable openrepos fist!

ggabriel

2014-03-20 12:59

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 1417823)

I asked about approx ETA for Android launcher just a 2 month approx and got negative comments on XDA (lots) and one or two negative comments and negative Karma on tjc.

I suppose that for tjc it should be a poll-like question with 2 answers: 1. I want Android HW port fast!; 2. I want Androd HW port deprioritised in favour of other features so that you don't get bad karma. I personally don't care about karma, but it always feel bad getting negative karma ;-)

I get Dave999's point of wanting different hardware, but personally my opinion is on the other extreme, as I don't concur that options out there are even acceptable for my requirements, with Nokia being the only exception. Oh, and I hate big screens... the Jolla's is a tad too big, or maybe not the screen but the phone.

Anyway, I expect this thread to be of a miscellaneous nature from now on until update5 is close :-D Are we there yet? ha ha

Bubbless

2014-03-20 14:53

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 1417823)

I asked about approx ETA for Android launcher just a 2 month approx and got negative comments on XDA (lots) and one or two negative comments and negative Karma on tjc.

Didn't that get upvoted? Or maybe I was reading the wrong one :p.

sada11

2014-03-20 15:27

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sada11 (Post 1417693)

Same here... :(

one more thing, is anyone notice conversation mail error, or bug?
I replay on mail just one more time correctly. Next time when I do replay ( conversation ) The recipient receives an answer as randomly selected numbers, letters and symbols ... :confused:

..no one have this problem ??

http://imageshack.com/a/img19/9051/m912.jpg

Manatus

2014-03-20 15:38

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417728)

Sadly my experience with the latest update is far from it. Mobile data connection keeps turning itself on and I have only LTE unlimited (this also means if I need to travel abroad I will have to revert to trusty n900, roaming charges for data are absurd). Had 3 bugs one after another today, first mobile connection stopped working, airplaining it on/off caused a reboot (green led type) and after that had to play find waldo as all icons got shuffled. Worst of all, 2/3 of first page icons ended up on the last. Rearranging them one by one took quite a while. Might need to revert to 1.0.3.8 if this continues to happen. But fluidity is indeed improved

Sorry, but have you checked your btrfs volume hasn't run out of unallocated space?

I've been slowly studying the workings of btrfs filesystem here:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...ious-problems/

Some of the symptoms align with mine before finding out that there is more to btrfs than meets the eye.

In short 'btrfs fi show' command will tell you if you have any raw space left. If not, it may be the cause of the problems. Running balance operation resolves this (if you are still able to do it).

It is not enough just to do factory reset and update again. The initial problem persists through factory resets, as it is just a btrfs snapshot and not a disk image.

szopin

2014-03-20 15:43

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manatus (Post 1417853)

Thanks, but not at this time. Had problems previously with snapshots not being removed after factory reset, but now have 4Gb left on the phone which is more or less accurate (actually less, as android uninstalls do not seem to release space properly, trying out if Asphalt 8 works on Jolla cost me 1Gb of space, for the curious works, though not multiplayer, neither online, nor wlan, edit: actually, the file were just left, just regained 1.7gb, yay!)

Manatus

2014-03-20 15:52

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1417854)

Ok, thanks for checking. :)

Manatus

2014-03-20 15:57

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sada11 (Post 1417852)

..no one have this problem ??

http://imageshack.com/a/img19/9051/m912.jpg

Looks unencoded base64. If the email shows ok with other email clients it is most likely a problem with Jolla email client, and you should make a case of it at together.jolla.com.

If other email clients show it the same way, then it was probably double-encoded in the sender end.

sada11

2014-03-20 16:05

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manatus (Post 1417856)

others client works good, I installed yahoo android app, and works good (my both acount, ovi and yahoo) I have this problem only on Jolla email client... but I not understand, am I the only one?

Dave999

2014-03-20 16:31

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

If jolla could release a 3 inch device it would be awesome too. Jolla think a clone of xperia mini...

Manatus

2014-03-20 17:07

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sada11 (Post 1417858)

others client works good, I installed yahoo android app, and works good (my both acount, ovi and yahoo) I have this problem only on Jolla email client... but I not understand, am I the only one?

These type of problems are quite common and happen in situations where, for instance, the character set on client (regional settings) clash with the email character set, which is UTF-8 in this case.

You may try switching language in your phone to English, if it was not already, to see if it helps. In this case you should recreate this email user account on your phone, as the email client doesn't necessarily store the email in the original form it came in.

Some years ago the problems were common mainly with HTML content type emails, but lately I've seen a lot of problems with plain text emails, such as this.

Other possibility might be that the server end at your provider (nokia?) may have been "optimized" for only a handful of phone device clients. Optimizing means here that the server software provider may have had to go against email standards to get, say, Windows Phone clients to work properly. This could be possible because Windows Phone clients do not do plain text UTF-8 email messages very standards compliant. I've been troubleshooting such case myself...

Does this account use IMAP or ActiveSync?

mced	2014-03-20 18:46

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mced (Post 1417770)

Same here. Besides this annoying behavior, battery drains too fast and doesn't show accurate data (woke this morning with 70% and, after some surfing, dropped to 4%). Two random shutdowns, something that never happened before. A "device is getting hot" warning (new too). Bad update for me.

I'm answering myself: the "battery trick" (extract, wait, put again) did it for me. No more hangs nor "autoconnects".

Guess I'm gonna do this trick every update.

sada11

2014-03-20 20:18

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manatus (Post 1417864)

thx for answer.. english is my default language,but maybe problem is recipient :) maybe there is another language, and you have right when say "encoding" problem. Thx for that. In my sent mail text is normally, but recipient get that "error" mail.
I try with more recipient and see what will happen?
That problem not only with nokia mail (ovi) i have same situations with yahoo account ...and account use IMAP.

thank you one more time, for helping...

reason: Solved! Encoding problem, only with Blackberry mail...

minimos

2014-03-20 21:53

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiiHoo (Post 1417817)

IMHO another interesting note from the article is that in a couple of weeks they should announce a few partnerships.

Philippe

2014-03-20 23:48

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyzthomas (Post 1417503)

Heck, you can't even see today date, unless you open calendar app. Why can't they display that on the lock screen.

It's the first thing in the pulley menu in the lock screen

jalyst

2014-03-21 05:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1417899)

...is that in a couple of weeks they should announce a few partnerships.

Yes but will they, & will they really be as significant is they've suggested, or just a foot-note.
Hopefully we'll know when they say we'll know, & hopefully it won't be rather mediocre...

Dave999

2014-03-21 05:39

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Have the said the will present partners?

inffy

2014-03-21 07:12

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1417920)

Have the said the will present partners?

Yes, yesterday on Finnish Kauppalehti, Saarnio told that new partners will be announced in few weeks

szopin

2014-03-21 21:48

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1417771)

Now I think it's time to go with promise of launcher to android and later Sailfish for nexus. According to jolla it's so easy to get it up and running on different hw. Bring it on!

Alpha for Nexus 4 early next week according to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3&postcount=64

JiiHoo

2014-03-21 23:19

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Sailfish home screen early 2012:

https://twitter.com/w00teh/status/447041014520643584

(Found link from one Finnish tech news site.)

chenliangchen

2014-03-22 13:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1418016)

Alpha for Nexus 4 early next week according to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3&postcount=64

I have a stupid question, will the Android port come with "native" Alien Dalvik or it can run Android apps directly? :D

jalyst

2014-03-22 15:21

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1418056)

I have a stupid question, will the Android port come with "native" Alien Dalvik or it can run Android apps directly? :D

Um, it's a port of Sailfish to (some) Android devices, not Android to Android devices...
AlienDalvik is a proprietary layer, I doubt it'll be available on Android devices running Sailfish.
Perhaps Jolla/Myriad will offer it eventually, but I doubt it'll ever work as well as the Jolla Ph.
Unless demand for Sailfish on Android devices grows far more rapidly than Sailfish on Sailfish hw.
Then (& only then) priorities may change....

chenliangchen

2014-03-23 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1418063)

Thank you!

It seems an almost impossible job trying to port Alien Dalvic (regardless of legal issue) from experience of N9 port, I guess similar happens with Android port as well unless Jolla decides to make it work I guess.

Really hope Sailfish works with some elegant hardware with better screen camera and build quality such as SonyXperia with Alien Dalvik...

Dared

2014-03-25 13:01

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Okay, so as some of you know I was having problems restoring my Jolla via telnet (on a mac)

Left it for about a week and just tried again tonight - worked first time. Very strange as I did nothing differently

abyzthomas

2014-03-25 14:06

Re: Sailfish now on 1.0 (Jolla MWC announcement)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philippe (Post 1417909)

It's the first thing in the pulley menu in the lock screen

Why make it so hidden?

A static text display, without any selectable action, on the Pulley Menu is absolutely a wrong way to use the Pulley Menu.

I know Jolla is Unlike, but some of these are just Unwanted.

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