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Lighten up, it will come soon. Not sure what is the use of posts people voicing their frustrations/impatience either, everyone can deal with their own in their own way I guess

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Nice try but still useless :)

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Oh, looky here

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Update next week :)

"Sorry for the wait, we're still rowing upstream on the final stretch for update which will be out early next week. Thanks for your patience!"

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Early next week: https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/444493321126563840

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Good. Updates before a weekend are daft.

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Said every support engineer in history. "early next week", "until EOD"

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They do it the wrong way. Imagine, they announce on Monday that update is delayed till early next week. Then the update comes out early next week and everyone's happy however, there also is a possibility where they finish the update earlier and release it on Friday. Boom, everyone's loving Jolla for working harder than possible.

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With tongue firmly in cheek I would say it's the old Nokia way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory :p

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relax ppl, Let Jolla finish the job, it wont do any good to release, with only reason being release. There are plenty of bugs and issues, and we will all benefit from them doing a better quality release.
As for when, well, your device will tell You...

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Love that they announcing updates and also delays. Would respect them even more if they are posting in this thread. The delay is not an issue to me. earlier they announce stuff to public more fogiving i will be for delays...

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At no point was that officially said, it was always "next week", at one point it was early March, that's the only "early" we've had.
Personally doesn't bother me either way, not being an early adopter & all that...
Looking at it all as an outsider, it seems they really need to get this one right, as they've made much about "leaving beta" with this release.
So, I'd rather that they took as long as they needed (with reason ofc), rather than guarantee delivery at x arbitrary date.

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Who is release manager at jolla? Jolla should create a web page we are jollaWeAreOpen.com where they release release info. Thats unlike

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Yup.

And instead of announcing monthly updates they should say regular updates (10 or so in an year) and make sure that they can deliver that. I never really expected that monthly update to hold true, at the very least it would not stick the during summer holiday period. Deliver when its ready, but don't give people expectations you can't hold.





(and give that LTE update pretty soon! Or you are just ****ing liars and false marketeers. I'm quite close to making an official complaint about it to the consumer ombudsman).

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hmm I see some inconcistensy here ;)

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+1

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I don't !

Update beign late for few days is quite different from a major feature being late since november ( when the phone was released) or since last may (when I made my pre-order for my LTE phone). The fact is that they continue to this day (!) sellling their phone as a LTE phone, but it has no LTE support. And we are talking about a communication device here. So lack of promised communication standars is no small feat!

I'm actually quite ashamed to admit that it's only my fanboism stopping me from making that complaint. Well... actually my fanboism combined with my lasiness. I did the whole ombudsman route few years back against one the biggest telecoms in the world (Telia-Sonera) and won, but all the paperwork involved was a real pain in the *** and a huge time sink.

But that's just about as much will spend writing about it. This board is full of even bigger fanbois than me. None of you would allow any other corporation to false advertise any missing basic features in their products for so long. But do post some random hate about Ms and Google, while letting Jolla to have the liberty to missadvertise their products as long as they want. Oh and something about them having only 80 employees. We have even less workes where I work, but at least we make sure not to advertise and promise what we can't deliver.

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I generally agree with you, but I don't think Jolla are in some way getting a "free ride" from this board (not that they are likely to change their behaviour too much).

That LTE support is still not as thing is certainly a massive failure, and it's safe to assume that it's a Sailfish failure, as opposed to a hardware issue. For sure I would give Google or MS a much harder time (in that I would have returned the device for a full refund) but I agree with you that Jolla must get LTE working, or admit that they have mis-sold the device... and to the very people who care most about what they are trying to achieve. Can I wait a few more days for 1.0.4.x? Sure. Can I accept LTE being absent for another few months? No, probably not.

Jolla has promised so much. Let's not overlook that Jolla has delivered a good portion of that, but it's undeniably true also that they have failed to deliver some of the key stuff. I'm massively impressed by the good stuff, and it's true that my love of the good bits does lead me to let slide stuff which would leave me frothing at the mouth if a bigger corporation did it. I'm still not willing to accept "sometime in the future, probably" as an acceptable answer for much longer though.

Let's re-evaluate after this update comes out, whenever that is...

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LTE support is way down the list for me. It's only just being rolled out now in much of Europe. I'd have to travel about 30 miles to get a 4g signal and that's only because I happen to live near one of the three cities 4g is being rolled out in. I'm not expecting it at home until well into 2015.

I'm not sure why you'd want it. The 3g I get on my Jolla now is faster than my landline broadband.

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Not to mention that with current data caps one can't reasonable use even the current perfectly fine 3G or even GPRS/EDGE networks!

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Data cap? Thankfully my tariff isn't that stone age! Unlimited data here for me.

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Just to let you all know when I asked about the Sailfish launcher for Android I got a large amount of negative comments on xda forums and negative Karma on together.jolla.
So do not ask when the launcher will come out or any details because you will become public enemy #1 and I have no idea why.

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dont ask...Demand to get it. Who cares about karma?

maybe jolla are doing a 180 and driving in anoder way. I remember CEO said they where doing exciting stuff with another company, never happend, sail fish alliance, never happend, jolla android launcher never happend, sailfishrom never happen. Premium device never happen. Device released on time never happen, this update never happen...yet.

cheer up dude, The launcher will come or we will rant on it for years...

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Can't say why together.jolla.com users would give you negative karma for that, but for XDA it is probably 'Not Invented Here' syndrome, as well as not being open source. If it would be opensourced, I think they would love it and then fork it to a million variations as fast as the cat sneezes.

I'm disappointed to the android launcher situation generally. IMHO they are all copies of the same user paradigm and differing from each other only by the amount of the basic options they offer. There have been some with more idea to them, but those have vanished without reaching any kind of stable status.

@Dave999
yes they said all that, but at the same time they managed to deliver something important as well. Do not forget that there is a hostile environment for newcomers, look at the first Ubuntu mob attempt.

the most important thing is jolla to stay alive, bug fixes and upgrades will come. at the moment I spend €399 to get the device and I cannot afford to get another phone soon.

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I'm lucky when I get a 3G signal in Germany, and people are talking about LTE here, which is known to suck battery like crazy, is data-only, and virtually non-existent.

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4G itself does not such battery that much more than 3G BUT what does suck battery is looking 4G connection and switching to 3G and then switching back to 4G, that is the main battery drain with 4G.

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Weird, 85% of poland is covered by LTE already (actually, 85% of populace as most big cities are on, probably not much else). Haven't noticed it sucking battery like crazy (though like mariusmssj noted failback switching could increase the drain), does go fast if you are tethering at the same time, but just browsing/streaming is very similar to what wlan/3g usage does

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Well, 3G with its terribly weak coverage is already sucking battery a lot, so if LTE is not better in this regard, it's unsuitable for everyday's use.

And doesn't the phone have to be connected to 3G/4G at the same time, because with 4G only, you couldn't make plain phone calls, as it's data-only, and IP-telephony not yet deployed in the mobile space?

I just don't see any benefit of LTE in 2014 yet, except for bringing broadband to rural areas where no DSL or cable network is available, and that is not a phone use-case.

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anyone know change the governor can make the ui faster

do it as root

echo "performance" >/sys/devices/platform/kgsl-3d0.0/kgsl/kgsl-3d0/pwrscale/trustzone/governor

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The problem is that 85% of populace isn't 85% of the country by far. But the mobile operators fulfilled their obligations by reaching that number and stop covering more areas. The same happened with 3G. We have it in the center of cities and towns, but once you leave the center (for industrial or residential areas), you'd fall back to 2G.
So 3G and 4G are fine for stationary use, but not for MOBILE.

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hmm last time was travelling to the mountains had 3g coverage all the way through, in the actual mountains even 2g was spotty in the valleys, but that is to be expected I guess. then again they probably covered the most main routes

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Yes, the problem is not what jolla delivers and not delivers but how people running toghter jolla, but also how sincere question get met by aggression or ignorance both here and xda as the previous user reported.

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I think there is too much fragmentation in this area, and this hurts us all, I wish there was a better synergy, admittedly Jolla took an initiative now, and despite the good will, there are some hard facts that they need to balance too.

You might ask a sincere question, but communication media have limitation, how is that sincereness is getting through then? I myself asked questions and in a way were disregarded or that's what I felt. Can the receivers answer all questions with the same patience? Take for example Linus behaviour.

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since this discussion is going nowhere, a gif to ease the waiting:

http://media.giphy.com/media/pFwRzOLfuGHok/giphy.gif

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lol, we need to start building up anticipation and excitement, for the release again, for the new week guys ;-)

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Huh?

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The Jolla Facebook page ( unofficial page, but allegedly quoting official sources) stated it.

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Yeah, therein lies the problem with all this he_said/she_said...
Plenty of non-offcial sources will gladly put their own perceived spin on things in a moment of nerdgasm.
Quotes that aren't directly from an official source should be taken as fantasy.