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mscion

2014-03-13 12:45

Re: Time for a new phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingomion (Post 1416557)

What would Richard 'not linux, GNU' Stallman say?:p
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09...an_on_android/

How about, what does Linus think?

rfa	2014-03-13 19:11

Re: Time for a new phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1416565)

How about, what does Linus think?

What does OP think?

No

Quote:

I too believe Android isn't Linux

But following my criteria:

Swype Keyboard - this is the only non-negotiable item
removable battery
(micro) SD
Linux

it appears that an Android phone most closely suits my needs, followed by two phones that either aren't available in Australia (Jolla) or aren't released yet (Neo900) - neither of which are suitable, as they both don't have Sywpe keyboard.

bingomion

2014-03-18 22:04

Re: Time for a new phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfa (Post 1416609)

What about blackberry?
It's more linux then android!

MartinK

2014-03-18 22:17

Re: Time for a new phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingomion (Post 1417549)

What about blackberry?
It's more linux then android!

It is based on the QNX microkernel (yes a general purpose mobile microkernel OS!) so it does not have the Linux kernel. Also has a custom set of utilities.

tldr; it is not Linux and not even GNU :)

Dave999

2014-03-18 22:20

Re: Time for a new phone?

i would suggest a xperia ultra. The best buy/dollar right now.(if you like big screens)

if you want something fun that not always work. Get a jolla but you dont get quility/dollar.

both are very strange devices and also very cool!

rfa	2014-03-19 01:08

Re: Time for a new phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1417552)

Screen size? N9's is good, but haven't tried bigger. I'll try & "test drive"an experia, thanks for the suggestion.

If Jolla's had Swype keyboard I'd import one in a heartbeat, it's costing them sales, not just mine...

Crikey, if W8 phones had Swype I'd look very closely at a 1020...

But really, I want a Jolla with Swype.

Kangal

2014-03-19 08:56

Re: Time for a new phone?

Your option seems to be:

-Nexus 5 (All options, except microSD/removable battery. You might be able to run native ubuntu or chroot it, or port Mer if you like)

-SGS4 (Not as good as the Nexus 5. Has all options you need. Slight chance of Chroot/Native/Mer.)

...otherwise the options seem to be:
- Another N9 (Pretty much an obsolete choice now)
- N900 (Somewhat of a compromised downgrade)
- SailOS (The only* linux device out there, but much of a let-down)

I wouldn't consider BBX, FirefoxOS, UbuntuPhone and Tizen as choices.

ranbaxy

2014-03-19 09:03

Re: Time for a new phone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1416555)

I think there has to be some clarity about what is meant by linux here. Some folks do not consider Android to be linux while others think that if the software uses a linux kernal (like Android) it is then a linux distribution like Debian and Ubuntu. See

http://www.itworld.com/open-source/3...x-distribution

What do you think?

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq...xsyswithoutgnu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1416565)

How about, what does Linus think?

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#claimlinux
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linusagreed

mscion

2014-03-19 13:27

Re: Time for a new phone?

Here's a slightly different distinction...

http://www.linux.org/threads/the-lin...-android.5459/

electroaudio

2014-03-20 01:16

Re: Time for a new phone?