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slider 2007-08-29 23:20

Stolen N800
 
i'd like to be the first to report that my N800 was stolen (from inside my house). :(

seriously, this is just a reminder to the community to be careful with their new computers - particularly with stored passwords (banks, email, etc.). Is there a way to password protect the N800 (login)? probably a pain, but might be worth it in the long run.

i've already ordered my 2nd N800. should be here next week.

DeekDeek 2007-08-29 23:42

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terrible...

ya you can lock the screen at bootup and after periods of inactivity, via the control panel.

blakboy98 2007-08-30 01:17

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Locking the device is partial security. They can also remove any of the memery cards and read them from another system. An encrypted file system would be nice or software like password safe but better. ewallet on the n800 would be nice.

barry99705 2007-08-30 01:31

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This is where truecrypt would be really cool. Especially if it could be added to a login script. Mmc cards are encrypted until a successful login. That's why I use file vault on my laptop. 128 bit aes encryption should keep them out long enough for me to change all my passwords.

Mara 2007-08-30 01:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slider (Post 71983)
i'd like to be the first to report that my N800 was stolen (from inside my house). :(

seriously, this is just a reminder to the community to be careful with their new computers - particularly with stored passwords (banks, email, etc.). Is there a way to password protect the N800 (login)? probably a pain, but might be worth it in the long run.

i've already ordered my 2nd N800. should be here next week.

Sorry to hear your loss... and a very good reminder for me. I'm leaving tomorrow to a vacation trip to Asia where there is a good possibility that my N800 might get lost/stolen... I just disabled alll my saved passwords on the device, just in case!

iball 2007-08-30 01:46

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Too bad they didn't try to break in while you were at home so you could have shot them to death.
Someone tried that to my father's house while he was at home and he shot through the door and killed the man dead. Police investigated and found him innocent (castle doctrine) and now he's looking at suing the man's family for what it cost him to repair the door.

barry99705 2007-08-30 01:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 72016)
Too bad they didn't try to break in while you were at home so you could have shot them to death.
Someone tried that to my father's house while he was at home and he shot through the door and killed the man dead. Police investigated and found him innocent (castle doctrine) and now he's looking at suing the man's family for what it cost him to repair the door.



Hahahahaha!! That'll teach them!

GeneralAntilles 2007-08-30 02:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 72016)
Too bad they didn't try to break in while you were at home so you could have shot them to death.
Someone tried that to my father's house while he was at home and he shot through the door and killed the man dead. Police investigated and found him innocent (castle doctrine) and now he's looking at suing the man's family for what it cost him to repair the door.

Good. All too often you hear about them suing the other direction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider (Post 71983)
i'd like to be the first to report that my N800 was stolen (from inside my house). :(

What city, we might be able to keep a look out for you.

iball 2007-08-30 02:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 72025)
What city, we might be able to keep a look out for you.

I doubt it.
The crackhead probably pawned it. First places to look are the local pawnshops.

slider 2007-08-30 02:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blakboy98 (Post 72006)
Locking the device is partial security. They can also remove any of the memery cards and read them from another system. An encrypted file system would be nice or software like password safe but better. ewallet on the n800 would be nice.

@ blakboy98: hey, if you get a chance, drop me the link to ewallet. i'd like to check it out. thx.

@ all: so, is there a way to lock down the N800 or not? i'm confused. how about opera or firefox? anyway to password protect the use of the browsers? thx.

slider 2007-08-30 02:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 72016)
Too bad they didn't try to break in while you were at home so you could have shot them to death.
Someone tried that to my father's house while he was at home and he shot through the door and killed the man dead. Police investigated and found him innocent (castle doctrine) and now he's looking at suing the man's family for what it cost him to repair the door.

lol. i don't own a gun, but i have been waiting for them to come back. i'm pretty pissed :mad: and would like to see if my kali and jkd training has been worth the effort.

blakboy98 2007-08-30 03:14

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here is the link to ewallet http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/ew/ewallet.htm. I used it on my wm5 device for storing personal information. It encrypts its own files but not others so it's not an end all solution and is comparable to PasswordSafe which is available for the IT but better IMO.

On the browser side you can just clear your information or don't save passwords and set the lock feature on the device itself. The browser info is on the device so if they can't unlock it, they can only reflash which will erase the data on it, from what i know, so you would be covered.

slider 2007-08-30 03:29

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thx blakboy98. very helpful.

unique311 2007-08-30 04:23

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slider, chances are if they had the nuts to break into your house, its wasn't without a knife or gun in hand.
fist VS. gun/knife
You need a gun buddy.

iball 2007-08-30 04:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unique311 (Post 72047)
slider, chances are if they had the nuts to break into your house, its wasn't without a knife or gun in hand.
fist VS. gun/knife
You need a gun buddy.

Didn't New York outlaw handguns in the state?
Or is that just concealed-carry permits for its citizens?
Usually when I travel stateside I carry a map of states with reciprocity agreements with North Carolina.
If a state doesn't have one with NC then I don't go to/thru that state if I don't have to.

As far as securing the home, 1/2 inch ballistic glass in all the windows with dual-sill-locks, disguised steel doors on all entrances to the dwelling set into steel frames sunk deep below the floor and extending into the ceiling, double non-bump locks on those doors with at least one lock on each door being biometric controlled access (either finger or palm), with a good home alarm system rigged to popup flash-bang grenades sunk into the floor near the entrances and set to a 30 second delay.

Of course, the ballistic glass might be overkill since it's so expensive and a pain-in-the-***** to work with.
But if you live in a frequent drive-by area then it's worth it.
But nothing short of a tank or APC with a battering ram is getting in a house like that.

blakboy98 2007-08-30 04:52

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Funny but you forgot the 2 ft solid concrete walls with 2 inch diameter steal rebar mesh of course.

barry99705 2007-08-30 05:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slider (Post 72030)
lol. i don't own a gun, but i have been waiting for them to come back. i'm pretty pissed :mad: and would like to see if my kali and jkd training has been worth the effort.

I know a guy that went toe to toe with a knife wielding attacker. He's a black belt in tang-su-do. He also didn't know the guy had a knife. He's damn lucky he didn't bleed to death. He said he was hitting the guy with everything he had and the guy was "punching" back. He was actually stabbing back. The guy took off after my friend dropped to the ground. Cops showed up right after and called an ambulance. They eventually caught the other guy. He had a broken nose, jaw, and crushed eye socket. Broke three ribs and some wicked bruising all around his chest area. Unless you can drop one of those x-fighters with one or two hits, hands against weapons is a really bad idea.

iball 2007-08-30 05:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blakboy98 (Post 72050)
Funny but you forgot the 2 ft solid concrete walls with 2 inch diameter steal rebar mesh of course.

Nope, I'm talking about an easy retrofit that can be done to just about any real home (no trailer homes!).

iball 2007-08-30 05:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 72054)
I know a guy that went toe to toe with a knife wielding attacker. He's a black belt in tang-su-do. He also didn't know the guy had a knife. He's damn lucky he didn't bleed to death. He said he was hitting the guy with everything he had and the guy was "punching" back. He was actually stabbing back. The guy took off after my friend dropped to the ground. Cops showed up right after and called an ambulance. They eventually caught the other guy. He had a broken nose, jaw, and crushed eye socket. Broke three ribs and some wicked bruising all around his chest area. Unless you can drop one of those x-fighters with one or two hits, hands against weapons is a really bad idea.

Translation for the reading-impaired: Don't bring fists to a knife fight and don't bring either to a gun fight.

slider 2007-08-30 05:58

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wow we should re-label this thread as "N800 and self-defense." maybe somebody could install a taser for the N800. the input button could act as a trigger. that would be cool.

seriously, thx everyone for the concern. my training has taught me to leave quickly if a gun or knife is present. however, i am trained to disarm blades, but that would be a last resort. on the other hand, retractable batons are quite easy to carry (and legal). two batons in concert can be devasting. guns, again, are a different matter. on another note, the police officer who helped us had some really good ways to protect the house. i think i'll try some of her suggestions before installing lexan windows. :D

anyway, keep an eye on your tablet.

iball 2007-08-30 06:03

Re: Stolen N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slider (Post 72066)
wow we should re-label this thread as "N800 and self-defense." maybe somebody could install a taser for the N800. the input button could act as a trigger. that would be cool.

seriously, thx everyone for the concern. my training has taught me to leave quickly if a gun or knife is present. however, i am trained to disarm blades, but that would be a last resort. on the other hand, retractable batons are quite easy to carry (and legal). two batons in concert can be devasting. guns, again, are a different matter. on another note, the police officer who helped us had some really good ways to protect the house. i think i'll try some of her suggestions before installing lexan windows. :D

anyway, keep an eye on your tablet.

Concealed-carry permit (CCP): ~$100
Nokia N800: ~$399
Para-Ordinance .45 ACP Warthog: ~$700
Box of Powerball .135 grain .45 ammunition: ~$25
Shooting a crackhead who tries to rob you of your precious N800 at knifepoint? Priceless.

And NOTHING is "legal" to carry concealed on or about your person in any state of the union other than a handgun with a valid concealed-carry permit.
Especially a baton. Not a knife, not even a pair of brass knuckles.
You learn this and other fun facts when you take an actual concealed-carry class, which is mandatory to get a CCP.

I used to take martial arts until I was 17 and joined the Army.
Then I learned how worthless all of it was against firearms.
Not to mention by the time the martial arts guy even looks to make a move you've already shot him twice.
Kind of hard to kick a gun away or even run when you've suddenly sprouted a sucking chest wound.
While I'm sure martial arts is a great exercise and might impress a chick or two, this is no longer the Bruce Lee 60's era of fewer guns and more knives.
And that's a damn shame.
Everyone in America today carries a gun. Yee-haw!

slider 2007-09-06 16:55

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quick update: i received my new N800 today. It arrived with a voucher from Skype for 3-months of unlimited calls to any phone (skype-out, i think). This is a new promotion, that i was unaware of, and this promotion was not in effect when i purchased my first N800.

i really like the idea of competing with other devices via voip and wifi. i think these aspects can really distinguish N800 (and its successors) in the long run.

buggsy2 2007-09-06 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slider (Post 72066)
the police officer who helped us had some really good ways to protect the house.

Care to share?
http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~rgf/misc/cat%20(10).jpg

slider 2007-09-06 18:20

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@ buggsy2
a) http://www.cpted-watch.com/
b) pyracantha under windows (apparently doesn't require much sunlight)
c) assortment of bolts, locks, "tamper-proof" hardware for doors and windows (home depot stuff)
d) light timers
e) some other stuff that i won't reveal cuz the **sholes who jaxed me could be lurking.

someone IN THIS THREAD mentioned a gun.....

remydlc 2007-09-08 21:00

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That sux loosing your IT, I lost mine by accident and waited to post a similar thread here. I was so piss, I've had to changed all my saved passwords, even sent some emails to my self hoping the person who found it read it.

Some how I got distracted and left it on top of the car, when i realized and came back home just found the pouch. :(.

That was not a pleasant situation, almost felt like crying for my 2 weeks old IT.

Please take care of your babies and watch them all the time.

barry99705 2007-09-08 23:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 72068)
Concealed-carry permit (CCP): ~$100
Nokia N800: ~$399
Para-Ordinance .45 ACP Warthog: ~$700
Box of Powerball .135 grain .45 ammunition: ~$25
Shooting a crackhead who tries to rob you of your precious N800 at knifepoint? Priceless.

And NOTHING is "legal" to carry concealed on or about your person in any state of the union other than a handgun with a valid concealed-carry permit.
Especially a baton. Not a knife, not even a pair of brass knuckles.
You learn this and other fun facts when you take an actual concealed-carry class, which is mandatory to get a CCP.

I used to take martial arts until I was 17 and joined the Army.
Then I learned how worthless all of it was against firearms.
Not to mention by the time the martial arts guy even looks to make a move you've already shot him twice.
Kind of hard to kick a gun away or even run when you've suddenly sprouted a sucking chest wound.
While I'm sure martial arts is a great exercise and might impress a chick or two, this is no longer the Bruce Lee 60's era of fewer guns and more knives.
And that's a damn shame.
Everyone in America today carries a gun. Yee-haw!

Actually in the state of Alaska, you don't need a ccp to carry a gun concealed or open. There's also no laws on knives, weather open or concealed, so it's up to the court if you use one in defense of yourself.


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