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ouch for the sarcasm. btw, have you already finalised the keyboard layout for this one?

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no, still being refined! check andrews twitter for latest renders :)

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What pins will be available in the connection between the two parts? Would it be possible to use it for charging?

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yes, all 6 pins will be available!!

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Great. That'll make it possible to build a charging station. As a replacement for wireless charging.

If the magnetic attachment of the keyboard works as well as you say, it's really a fantastic idea.

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http://media3.giphy.com/media/I5qb3xAA9lNyo/giphy.gif

when the design is final, will share the dimensions etc, in case someone else feels the urge to make a killer docking station!

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Thats how i want My keyboard. Gold letters on black keys and LOTs of bling bling. **** yeah

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black+gold with wood on the back? i don't see that working!

but feel free to join the design team as 'head of deluxe edition'!

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unfortunately i dont have time, the life take to much of my time. Consider me more as a cracy fanboy or a cheerleader of the project.

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In that case I go for cheerleader

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I can live With that. Im cheering and Im a Leader.
Video Not working. Im too sexy for...youtube. :D

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NO!! You're using iOS, don't you?
Curse you!

When can we expect the keyboard to be producable? When it's ready? Around christmas?

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That is really hard to say and depends on so many different things

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I second that. GOLD on BLACK KEYS. chrome strips and black plastic casing. ooooooooh yeaaaaaah.

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I do, my iPad is one of my tablets,yes. But I use several Oss sail,ff,Maemo,Meego,WebOS and android. I definitely using Android most of the time right now, mostly becouse of its options and hw. What I really looking for is a big slider keyboard device. And that's why I'm in this thread. I hope this triggers jolla and others to bring back the slider...but so far out of options.

+3

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I prefer white and blue (special chars) on black, but I guess it's a bit early to discuss color choices at this point. :]

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it is absolutely not an early stage to discuss colours on keypad!!!!

andrew is now finalizing the design and looking into production facilities, so please share your (if, and only if, well funded!) ideas!

note: the current design has already A LOT of thought in it and has already been the topic of discussion quite often, so radical changes are no longer a possibility. small subtle stuff, maybe. but come with you guns loaded.

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Well, then white and light blue for special characters, on black keys. :)

I've owned both keyboards with these colours and keyboards with yellowish/gold on black, and my preference is clear.

Most of all, we need a quiet keyboard. The N900 keyboard is silent and at the same time has a great tactile feedback. I used lots of other keyboards and none had the same feeling, that's a shame. It's really important in my opinion.

Finally, several localized hardware layouts, not only software. I know Scandinavian and English are planned, but I hope AZERTY will be available too, for the keyboard to be really useful (for me) considering its likely price.

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I tend to prefer blank keys. Printed symbols only make things confusing if you don't use the same layout as the keyboard was designed for.

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I second this as well :)

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ähh.. please don't do that. I think if there are printed keypads it shouldn't be so difficult to get an "naked" one from Dirk.
I need the symbols on the Keypad, and i would like to have a qwertz one. (But would also accept a qwerty). A completely naked one would be a deal breaker for me.

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Yes, that's the true hacker alternative :) :)
And to make it even better you should use an own layout, not qwerty nor azerty not dvorak :D

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Try Maltron layout, and even better, Maltron shape for the TOHKBD XD.

http://xahlee.info/kbd/i3/Maltron_keyboard.jpg

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i'm also looking forward to a qwertz-layout

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please please please stop giving your preferations for qwerty/qwertz/azerty/whatever! this is all taken care of!

this is helpful:
this is noise:

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I think we need another thread then...everyone like different ;)

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...singlehand.jpg

Just for poeple who like to discuss the project, progress or related stuff without interfering with your information?

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yes, please do all that in this thread

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Conclusion: no change in design, only alignmentshapes for end positions. That's ok, I'll see if it's enough when the design is ready.

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If you want to know anything about the design or discuss/suggest, you can ask me, I guess, just so that I can take some hits for Dirk :D
And to start with something.

QWERTZ layout is technically impossible right now because all our "raw" keypads would most probably have QWERTY right from the factory to save costs, we're terribly sorry for that but we don't have another option for now.

Having said that I should state, that this fact does not mean there would be no way to modify that "raw" keypad to have additional characters of your taste, whole design has been developed around this idea.

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That Maltron looks very inconvenient. The only one I'd like to see besides QWERTY is Dvorak.

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That was obviously a joke. Maltron is ergonomically great for using with hands but not just with two thumbs as in a mobile.

By the way Dirkvl said talking about layouts here is noise and we could talk about that things here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91539

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Small update on current activities

timeline:
- waiting on base-pcb for last mockup
- keypad is being finalized
- after the keypad is done, the domesheet can be designed and ordered
- after that the bottom-pcb can be designed and tested
- finalizing design for production

moneyz:
- waiting on quote for lastucase backsides
- waiting on quote for keypad production
- still have to ask for a quote on domesheet
- investigating costs of pcb soldering
these costs are needed for making an accurate estimation for the eventual cost and are all needed before opening pre-orders

got some emails with questions regarding the date when the keyboards will be ready to ship, but given the above uncertainties it may be clear i cannot possibly comment on this. but work is in progress.

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Rough estimate for pricing tohkbd2: 130E


This is for a white keyboard and wooden back (just like latest mockup)

Amount is determined by adding into account:
- sum of parts
- outsourced labour
- insourced labour (#me)
- risk
- taxes


Pre-ordering will not start before i have a working proto that is adequately tested. However, you can support by donating or ordering the SolarTOH

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sounds good.
Is it possible to print QWERTZ on the keyboard?

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Sounds good. As it's already reached this kind of price, and people are no doubt willing to pay, I'd urge you not to make any unnecessary cost savings and make it the most solid, high quality product you possibly can :)

As I assume you're going to have the wooden back remain as a Lastucase, have you enquired of them whether they have any contacts who might prove useful for manufacture / assembly?

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scan through the topic, mentioned lots of times: yes, there will me a lot of different layouts.

noted.

I have already some addresses. ;)

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Sounds fair for a custom made product, especially if the quality is there! I'm still in.

I second Bluefoot's message about unnecessary cost savings versus quality and reliability (and please, please, a silent domesheet, but I suppose this does not depend on you).

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I also think the price is adequte, just considering the huge ammount of work that went into the project (Thanks again!)! :)

BTW, any plans for a Gamegripper for the TOHKBD and/or a "gaming" layout ? :) (just an idea ;-) )

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It will be very possible to make a gaming bottom piece, but not a priority at the moment. But feel free to jump in ;)

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Sure, first things first. :)

I'm probably too busy to build one myself, but you can register my interest for getting one once you start making them. :)