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Kake41 2014-10-02 04:42
Re: Update 1.0.9.n this week?
 
It would be nice if the release is today. But I'm sceptic and i think that they are not ready to release the update today.

cvp 2014-10-02 06:15
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Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1440612)
do it like me! If Jolla promises an update in this month. Then count two weeks on it! And when the update comes sooner, your joy is the higher ;)
dont forget it.... ;)

nieldk 2014-10-02 06:56
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With all the patches rolling in for for example bash, I actually hope update is postponed for a few weeks to ensure latest patch level is employed for that.
Also, I would like to see connman actually supporting systemwide proxy support. After all, we get far more updates than most other vendors.
If you ask me, perhaps even a bit too much often.
Instead of full releases of complete system, I would like to see incremental updates to individual packages, for example batch, which could be distributed far more often.

pichlo 2014-10-02 07:35
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1441535)
With all the patches rolling in for for example bash, I actually hope update is postponed for a few weeks to ensure latest patch level is employed for that.
What's stoping them releasing without those patches now AND an additional release for those patches only a week or three later?

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Instead of full releases of complete system, I would like to see incremental updates to individual packages, for example batch, which could be distributed far more often.
There you go, you said it yourself.

nieldk 2014-10-02 07:41
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What's stoping them releasing without those patches now AND an additional release for those patches only a week or three later?



There you go, you said it yourself.
so this Stefano ;)

10 chars .....

strongm 2014-10-02 08:01
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1441535)
I actually hope update is postponed for a few weeks to ensure latest patch level is employed for that.
Actually, I'd prefer that they demonstrate that they now have a reliable infrastructure in place to distribute hot fixes and patches for things like this, without having to await a full OS update (as you yourself mention)

gaelic 2014-10-02 09:19
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1441535)
With all the patches rolling in for for example bash
Such security patches should be rolled out "immediately". As they are single security fixes and at the same time only minor patches testing should no longer take than hours to a few days. Even for Debian stable such fixes are in place after only after very short testing.

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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1441535)
Instead of full releases of complete system, I would like to see incremental updates to individual packages, for example batch, which could be distributed far more often.
Agree on that. On my desktop I prefer rolling releases (eg archlinux) over standard 'single' releases.

bockersjv 2014-10-02 09:23
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As the OP I welcome the ramblings :)

benny1967 2014-10-02 09:54
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1441535)
Instead of full releases of complete system, I would like to see incremental updates to individual packages, for example batch, which could be distributed far more often.
Funny: We (this community) asked for incremental upates since the earliest days of the Nokia 770, and it never happened. (Except for a few, very few hotfixes over the years.)

Nokia used to tell us that we cannot just take our desktop expectations and transfer them 1:1 to a mobile device. I never quite understood or believed that. Funny thing is that this update strategy remained unchanged all the time and now continues with SailfishOS. I really start wondering if it was true all along... if there *is* anything special about mobile environments that makes it more difficult to distribute incremental updates. :)

gaelic 2014-10-02 10:05
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1441557)
Funny: We (this community) asked for incremental upates since the earliest days of the Nokia 770, and it never happened. (Except for a few, very few hotfixes over the years.)

Nokia used to tell us that we cannot just take our desktop expectations and transfer them 1:1 to a mobile device. I never quite understood or believed that. Funny thing is that this update strategy remained unchanged all the time and now continues with SailfishOS. I really start wondering if it was true all along... if there *is* anything special about mobile environments that makes it more difficult to distribute incremental updates. :)
I understand that the 'core' system should be as stable as possible. nevertheless it should be possible that some 'internal applications' are updated as the applications available through jollastore. This means for example updates for the mail application + new features incl. sync profiles etc.


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