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From the FAQ of the Slush official site:

Is there a Live Stream from the event?
The live streams will run for the duration of the conference. The entire streams will not be published later, but Slush will upload some of the interesting keynotes and program features to the official YouTube channel. The live streams are not subtitled.

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hey man, it's difficult stuff.

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If you can't trust their countdown, you can't trust their products

It's all code after all. ;)

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I would like to see Sailfish OS on Philips smart TV, that would be big, especially if I could update my old.
Nokia made TVs I think.

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You guys do realize that the people who do their website aren't the same doing code for SailfishOS?

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So you are saying that I can't judge a product from how well a company perform a countdown?

Let's see if the product can out perform the countdown.

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And now Jolla counter has been re-adjusted to end at 11:00 (Helsinki time) tomorrow.
Just after Marc's speech... :)

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I think we can count out any Nokia co-operation, they just announced their own Android tablet.

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Nokia could still facilitate a Sailfish port to their otherwise, from consumer perspective, useless tablet.
One side hanging on the leech of the US tech giants, the other side feeding their stepchild Jolla..

Not that I am looking for a tablet..
Just wish not to see Jolla waste resources on their "own, self designed" hardware in an effort to follow this tablet craze.

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It seems the Nokia N1 tablet will have Sailfish. As option, or dual boot, etc. So Jolla will not spend time making a new hardware, just adapting Sailfish to this new Nokia N1 tablet. To be confirmed.

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is there any evidence behind this?

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a slim unibody 8" tablet with a high-res 4:3 screen is exactly the kind of tablet i'd be willing to buy, especially with a reversible Type-C USB port.

if it comes with Sailfish i'll buy it in a shot.

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How do you make that out?

The edge of the leaked Jolla device looks nothing like the edge of the Nokia device.

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How could they adapt sailfish to a tablet? Such a big display does not go well with gestures, all apps would need a new layout.
I don't knot about sold units, but as Jolla sill exists it should be fairly profitable...
However, adapting tablet layouts is probably not the next point on Jolla's to do list, look at how long it took Android to go big.
I think it would be best for Jolla to offer a phone with same size (optimum for gestures) and compatibility with TOH. A safe bet: more fluid design (rounded corners like the teaser-corner), a bigger battery... I see no need for the fastest processor, better at some RAM.
This is what I would work out:
Snapdragon 410 (plus adaption of 64 Bits in HAK)
3GB RAM (two would be enough as well)
2500 mah.
Nokia Camera...

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Just a hint because Jolla teaser said "something big begins now". But you are right, the edge of Jolla image is not the Nokia N1 edge. Anyway, I bet on a Sailfish tablet.

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Actually, the tablet is (in my opinion) the _only_ form factor that goes well with gestures. Desktop and laptop displays are not convenient for touch-based input, and phones are simply too small to easily input complex finger movements (although they work fine with a stylus). If you're going to be moving one or more fingers in lines, circles, triangles, or whatever, the tablet is just about the perfect size and held in the perfect position to accomplish those feats.

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I've tried out some old Sailfish OS build on a Nexus 7 and the UI was just fine. :)

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It's also fine with the latest SW build (uitukka) :D

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How did it scale? 2013 or 2014?
It was just fine? Or Uber fine...?

What's the latest speculation? A disc phone?

Make sure you having your credit card ready tomorrow!

My bet 499 Euro + shipment.

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Latest, Uitukka 1.1.0.39
The UI scales as 1:1 which makes fonts fairly large on some applications but I like it where it really helps, in fingerterm :D


I consider it Uber-Fine but your mileage might vary.


I'd love to see that one. I guess it would naturally run SFOS.

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Yes, but i was talking about the gestures we know from Sailfish OS already





Sure, I saw since videos too, bit I doubt it's as comfortable to perform the typical gestures on a tablet

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Check post #13 on this thread( http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=13 ) to see how Jolla Chief UI designer Jaakko Roppola envisages gestures could be brought to a bigger form factor.

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Nokia tablet will use PowerVR GPU - too bad. No Intel GPU and no open drivers (i.e. no native Wayland either).

When will tablets with proper Intel GPUs come out already?

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Yes, but his blog post (where those images come from) says at the very start: "Note that this has nothing to do with Jolla."

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I've gotta admit, the Jolla folks do seem to have squeezed just about the most you can get out of gestures on such a small device, particularly by emphasizing moves onto or off of the screen (thus creating a "virtual" space larger than the phone itself). But I would imagine that, given the greater screen space of a tablet, they'd be able to come up with a far richer collection of gesture controls. (At the very least, I'd expect them to be less constrained than Apple and Google, who are locked into tablet UIs that have to maintain compatibility with their existing phone UIs...)

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The Intel PowerVR GPUs tend to have much more robust drivers than the in-house Intel designs .. even if they are less open.
I'd see it as much less of a disappointment than Nokia taking whatever cash was waved in their face by Intel to use Atom, instead of one of the many, vastly superior ARM SKUs ... anyway, this is just-another-tablet ... albeit with Nokia's own Android ROM.

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I'd wait for a proper 14 nm Intel SoC with Intel GPU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(system_on_chip)

It should arrive in 2015. ARM SoCs are all sickening, except may be for Tegra which does have some decent glibc Linux support. I'm OK with Nokia using Atom, as long as there won't be any Android blobs needed to run Sailfish on it.

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I dont think Nokia can make phones till 2016 or whatever due to their deal with microshit

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Well, as long as you use the one exact hacked together BSP that came with the device and even then it might fail (see the PowerVR crashes on the N900). Change anything and it falls down like a house of cards - see the attempts to get an up-to-date Kernel & X server running on netbooks with the PowerVR based Paulsbo GPU (this is actually quite close to this Nokia device - x86 CPU & PowerVR graphics).

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I'll take no Intel and poor Linux drivers any day. The only way they're able to compete in the mobile / tablet space is by buying design wins. If anything, with the 14nm Atoms, the gulf will widen even further. The A5x series not only extend their performance per watt lead, but the higher clocked A57s will absolutely crush them in most benchmarks. The only thing they have going for them will be a very short lived process advantage lead .. but Samsung will almost certainly have 16nm chips out by the middle of next year.

Eh ... even if the tablet isn't totally locked down, that's surely a bit of a hope in vain? Sailfish requires Android does it not? Anyway, is the x86 version of Sailfish even being actively developed?

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I have four of these big ones at home now, 3 black and 1 red.
very happy with them.
:p

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People need to stop obsessing over a Nokia/Jolla hook up. Jolla are a mobile phone company, Nokia are contractually forbidden from making a phone. Nothing will happen until 2016, if ever, and I don't think it's even a realistic possibility then either.

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What if its a crank. Are Nokia allowed to support cranks?

http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...42-600x438.jpg

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Nokia = Map/Navigation seller

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Not at all. It requires Android blobs only if there is no native glibc hardware adaptation. Sailfish is a normal Linux.

Mer supports x86 from the start, and x86_64 was added as well. So Sailfish probably can be built for it rather trivially. Testing and QA is of course another matter.

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I don't know, swirl to zoom works pretty well on a 3.5" screen ;)

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Didn't you hear the news? Nokia now sells Android tablets also.

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sure i read it ;)

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I expect the news will be Sailfish OS on next model of Glamox H30
:)

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Nokia=network solution seller-------->maps data seller far, far after that in employees, profit or revenue.

And yeah, people really need to stop with making up the Nokia and Jolla connections here. Why would you even want Jolla to be connected with Nokia?

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Nokia isn't forbidden from making an Android tablet. I'm not Nokia obsessed, I didn't even have a Nokia before I switched to Jolla, but if they are allowed to make an Android tablet then why not a SailfishOS tablet?