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Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1450587)

I've no idea what you're doing Pichlo but copy and paste works just fine between Jolla's Terminal app and the browser.

Please show this ignorant user how to do it.

For that matter, I have not yet received an answer from juiceme (or anyone else) about how to copy a number from Phone or part of the text from Messages. All I have seen was, "of course you can do it, you idiot!" ;)

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Also, I don't know of any other smartphone that comes with a file manager, terminal and text editor as standard so Jolla aren't unusual. Terminal gets enabled when you switch on developer mode IIRC.

You need the network to enable developer mode. Chicken, egg? ;)

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450608)

Please show this ignorant user how to do it.

Open terminal, select text, copy. Doesn't sound too difficult :)

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450608)

You need the network to enable developer mode. Chicken, egg? ;)

Oh my... Duh! Of course you need network, because how else will the phone download the terminal and other developer tools??

99% of users will never enable developer mode, therefore it would be pointless to have all these tools preinstalled (which would mean all of that would have to be updated with each system update). Just a friendly reminder - you need network for downloading Media Player, Calculator, Clock, Mail, Calendar, ... as well.

Of course, I forgot, having network on a phone is something very peculiar these days :)

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1450610)

open terminal, select text, copy. Doesn't sound too difficult :)

How???????
:confused::confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1450610)

Oh my... Duh! Of course you need network, because how else will the phone download the terminal and other developer tools??

Duh! Please see the discussion in its entirety. The whole point was copying the network password somehow. So, to copy and paste the network password, you need to enable dev mode for which you need the network password. Do I really need to spell things out? ;)

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450614)

How???????[/size]
:confused::confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450614)

Copying the wi-fi password. I am hinting that having network (cellular) internet is not that peculiar nowadays.

EDIT:
I am just suggesting solutions to your questions, not trying to solve your scenario, because for myself, typing in the password on a keyboard (virtual or connected BT keyboard if there's not enough characters on the virtual one) is much user friendly than transferring a txt file over USB.

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450614)

How???????
:confused::confused::confused:

Drag mode -> Select

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450566)

Actually, I am on Uitukka. Still,

1) A short tap on an entry in the call list calls the number. Without a warning, which IMO is a bad design but one can learn to live with that.
2) A long tap brings a menu with "Send message", "Open contact card" and "Delete". All entries on my list are currently from known numbers so I apologize if there are more options for numbers not in the phone book but even if there is a "Copy phone number" option, why not for all entries?

You are correct that the "copy number" entry in the menu is disabled by default when the number is known.
However, here's an one-liner patch for you to enable it :D

Code:

[root@Jolla ~]# diff -u CallLogPage.qml.backup /usr/share/voicecall-ui-jolla/pages/CallLogPage.qml

--- CallLogPage.qml.backup        2014-12-04 11:58:26.179885538 +0200

+++ /usr/share/voicecall-ui-jolla/pages/CallLogPage.qml        2014-12-04 12:00:17.168318304 +0200

@@ -237,7 +237,6 @@

                         onClicked: openContactCard(person, model.remoteUid)

                     }

                     MenuItem {

-                        visible: !privateNumber && !person

                         //% "Copy"

                         text: qsTrId("voicecall-me-copy")

                         onClicked: Clipboard.text = model.remoteUid

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450566)

3) To actually copy the number, I have to open the contact card for editing. A bit risky operation.

True. I cannot fully understand why it has been disabled.

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1450566)

Whilst I don't mind editing a QML,

1) How was I supposed to know that this is what I have to do?
2) Where is that file?
3) What do I need to do with the file to enable selective copying? (OK maybe it is obvious once you know the aswers to questions 1 and 2.)
4) Is it what you expect the users to routinely do for things that should work out of the box?

Well, answers to the previous questions may vary from whom you ask about it, I guess?
How to find things, generally I use to grep for intresting keywords in the QML files. (remember, everything is located under /usr/share/ so you need not look elsewhere when you want to do UI mods to the system or applications)
Then, experimenting with changing things a bit in promisingly-seeming-locations and testing the results is what gets you results, and you learn a lot on the functioning and organization of the code.

You usually need to do "killall lipstick" after editing something to make Jolla to reload the UI components. If you break the UI, no problem just reverse your latest change and reload again. (this is why working in ssh is neat, you kan tweak the UI from your computer and at the same time safely test what the changes accomplish)

Mmmh, as for Q 4.), it depends. I do expect end users to tweak things by themselves. I do it to all devices that I own and use, whether it be computers, cameras, light-fixtures, cars, vacuum cleaners, airconditioning... you name it.
I do renovate and fix my home myself too, of course.
(and I have yet to encounter anything that works-out-of-the-box like I want it to work...)

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

@eekkelund, @szopin, @juiceme: thank you, thank you, thank you! You are my saviours! Shame I can hit the Thanks button only once! ;)

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1450602)

My Nexus 7 came with neither and I don't temember seeing either on the HTC one of our kids had having either. She's since moved to an iPhone, which of course has neither. Is it a Samsung thing perhaps?

Nope, probably not. I have a Galaxy S4 mini, and I had to install a third party file manager. Of course a terminal wasn't there, either.

Only thing that came pre-installed was a "Home"-folder of sorts, something to browser images, music files, videos etc.

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

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Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1450616)

Drag mode -> Select

...which I think is the default. I can't remember changing it anyway.

Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions

I never changed it either and it was set to Scroll. The reason I never epreimented with it was that the letter are so small I cannot read them. The first time I figured out what it says was from nodevel's post (#34).