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pycage 2015-04-13 19:02

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
The different OS versions have different repositories. A "pkcon update" does not update anything of the OS unless you reconfigured ssu to point to "latest", which may be as the name suggests a symlink to the latest repo.

Release candidates are dangerous because they may still contain issues that brick devices (or at least require a reset to factory defaults, or some good Linux skills to fix).
For every release candidate that did not become a release, there is at least one critical known bug.

Release candidates generally do not get further update notifications, so you cannot update them through the UI.

javispedro 2015-04-13 19:28

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1466693)
We clearly need at least 2 levels of opt-in, the hardest core one should probably be via verification only.
Something roughly analogous to what vitaminj just outlined, I wish it was implemented by now, it should be piss-easy.

Verification of what? Geek card?

The current opt-in is an extension in that it allows you to get updates even without enabling developer mode or 3rd party packages (which usually put your device into "you're on your own" mode regarding software). If you've already done either of these two, then why do you need to do any additional opt-ins? You could already fsck your boot by installing some packages, or even entire releases you just built yourself from sources..

coderus 2015-04-13 19:35

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1466704)
So what is 1.1.4.24...The one that Jolla leaked? And then trying to fix their mistake with another leaked update 1.1.4.28?

This is unofficial pirate version with backdoors and a lot of bugs stealing your personal information and sending your private photos to china servers.

jalyst 2015-04-13 19:50

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1466714)
Verification of what? Geek card?

Read my post in the context of some posts just before it. This makes a fair amount of sense...
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1466552)
<SNIP>At that point, Jolla will be more likely to lock down this public channel, and developers like coderus who take pride in delivering updated patches / software simultaneously with the release of an opt-in update won't be able to do that any more, and we all lose out.

As does this....
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1466664)
Multiple levels of opting in?
1 Core software / patch developers
2 Userspace app developers
3 Really enthusiastic enthusiasts with cavalier attitudes
4 Chilled out enthusiasts
5 The paranoid-but-nosey
6 Dave999
7 Public release<SNIP>

One smaller opt-in or more, before a much broader opt-in for more general users/devs...
A group (or groupings) of users that have a different level of access (via Jolla acc'ts?), to one or more earlier opt-in channels.*
The next hop after that opt-in or opt-ins, could be open slather to as vitaminj says: "Really enthusiastic enthusiasts with cavalier attitudes"

*channel[s] that aren't just for anybody who happens to stumble across the right info.

Vento 2015-04-14 12:53

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Is there a way to see the changlog of 1.1.4.28?

coderus 2015-04-14 16:10

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vento (Post 1467152)
Is there a way to see the changlog of 1.1.4.28?

The only one: wait for official release and announcement.

Dave999 2015-04-14 16:14

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1467175)
The only one: wait for official release and announcement.

How and where can I see if the release is actually a real release or just another official leak? (version wise)

vitaminj 2015-04-14 16:20

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1467176)
How and where can I see if the release is actually a real release or just another official leak?

They will announce it on their twitter feed and on TJC, as per usual.

Whatever version they end up on will be up for a while while they test it, then when they are happy with it they will flip the switch (and upload the all-important lake image and release notes) to let opt-in users grab it through the normal sailfish update settings panel.

coderus 2015-04-14 16:23

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1467176)
How and where can I see if the release is actually a real release or just another official leak? (version wise)

The ones you will receive in Settings - System - SailfishOS are official. Also a notification appear. All other are fakes or leaks, don't install it!

pycage 2015-04-14 16:24

Re: sailfishOS Upgrade12 discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vento (Post 1467152)
Is there a way to see the changlog of 1.1.4.28?

After the update was downloaded, but before it was installed, do
Code:

find /var/cache/zypp/packages -name "*.rpm" -exec rpm -qpi --changelog "{}" \; | more
and have a good read, or wait for the official changelog on together.jolla.com. :)


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